6,353
edits
Inceldom FAQ: Difference between revisions
Jump to navigation
Jump to search
m
→Evidence for
m (→Evidence for) |
|||
| Line 44: | Line 44: | ||
However, there is some evidence that when a man has extended periods of low sexual success, and potentially when they perceive this lack of sexual success as being caused by rejection by women, there may be some association with misogynistic attitudes. The blogger “Date Psychology” conducted an attempted refutation of Selmer et al. He created a “Chad Scale”, which measured self-assessed attractiveness and desirability to women. He then rated people based on self-ID'ed versus “operationalized” incel status depending on whether one explicitly identified as an incel or endorsed not having sex within two years despite effort. Reporting high attractiveness is associated with narcissistic traits,<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1073191119858410</ref> so it is not surprising that there was no relationship with this “Chad Scale” and misogyny, as this was also found in Selmer et al. This does, however, cast further doubt on the claim that sexual success is linearly associated with higher misogynistic (or “hostile sexist”) attitudes, as his “Chad Scale” did also have a behavioral component. This finding suggests that some Dark Triad traits are not reliably predictive of hostile sexist attitudes, with such attitudes being mainly associated with antagonistic personality traits such as psychopathy and low agreeableness, as has been found in prior research. However, Datepsych did find a moderate (''d'' = 0.47) effect for his “operationalized incels” and the measure of hostile sexism used.<ref>https://datepsychology.com/are-chads-more-misogynistic/</ref> Self-identified incels were also higher on the extreme misogyny scale (''d'' = 1.27), which aligns with the finding of Granau et al. (2022).<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886922003658</ref> These results may suggest that extended and lifelong romantic rejection can eventually spark resentment of women in men, which is certainly a plausible hypothesis. However, as men generally have a tendency to be overconfident in their ability to attract women,<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167215588754</ref> sampling men who admit that they fail at this categorically may select for psychologically atypical men, which may also select for other non-normative attitudes, [[Women-are-wonderful effect|as pronounced hostile sexism is]]. | However, there is some evidence that when a man has extended periods of low sexual success, and potentially when they perceive this lack of sexual success as being caused by rejection by women, there may be some association with misogynistic attitudes. The blogger “Date Psychology” conducted an attempted refutation of Selmer et al. He created a “Chad Scale”, which measured self-assessed attractiveness and desirability to women. He then rated people based on self-ID'ed versus “operationalized” incel status depending on whether one explicitly identified as an incel or endorsed not having sex within two years despite effort. Reporting high attractiveness is associated with narcissistic traits,<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1073191119858410</ref> so it is not surprising that there was no relationship with this “Chad Scale” and misogyny, as this was also found in Selmer et al. This does, however, cast further doubt on the claim that sexual success is linearly associated with higher misogynistic (or “hostile sexist”) attitudes, as his “Chad Scale” did also have a behavioral component. This finding suggests that some Dark Triad traits are not reliably predictive of hostile sexist attitudes, with such attitudes being mainly associated with antagonistic personality traits such as psychopathy and low agreeableness, as has been found in prior research. However, Datepsych did find a moderate (''d'' = 0.47) effect for his “operationalized incels” and the measure of hostile sexism used.<ref>https://datepsychology.com/are-chads-more-misogynistic/</ref> Self-identified incels were also higher on the extreme misogyny scale (''d'' = 1.27), which aligns with the finding of Granau et al. (2022).<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886922003658</ref> These results may suggest that extended and lifelong romantic rejection can eventually spark resentment of women in men, which is certainly a plausible hypothesis. However, as men generally have a tendency to be overconfident in their ability to attract women,<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167215588754</ref> sampling men who admit that they fail at this categorically may select for psychologically atypical men, which may also select for other non-normative attitudes, [[Women-are-wonderful effect|as pronounced hostile sexism is]]. | ||
Interestingly, Granau et al. attempted to prove that romantic rejection did promote hostile sexist attitudes even when antagonistic personality traits were controlled for. A multi-step regression showed that “unwanted celibacy” (which measures perceptions of social exclusion and romantic rejection) did significantly predict “hostility towards women” (hostile sexism) even when controlling for the personality traits of neuroticism and (dis)agreeableness, which were fairly large predictors of such attitudes. “Unwanted celibacy”, however, did not promote endorsement of willingness to commit rape, which was measured simply by the question of whether one would rape if one could get away with it. The regression, however, included self-identified incels. As the self-identified incels were | Interestingly, Granau et al. attempted to prove that romantic rejection did promote hostile sexist attitudes even when antagonistic personality traits were controlled for. A multi-step regression showed that “unwanted celibacy” (which measures perceptions of social exclusion and romantic rejection) did significantly predict “hostility towards women” (hostile sexism) even when controlling for the personality traits of neuroticism and (dis)agreeableness, which were fairly large predictors of such attitudes. “Unwanted celibacy”, however, did not promote endorsement of willingness to commit rape, which was measured simply by the question of whether one would rape if one could get away with it. The regression, however, included self-identified incels. As the self-identified incels were elevated on hostile sexism to begin with, with a large effect size, it is unclear how much of this claimed effect of “unwanted celibacy” on hostile attitudes toward women was a simple tautological finding driven by the incels being self-identified incels and having the associated attitudes, as nearly half of the sample was comprised of self-identified incels. As such, this analysis does not conclusively demonstrate that romantic rejection reliably causes misogynistic attitudes in the general population. | ||
In terms of self-identified incels, as noted above, many do express misogynistic attitudes, either to vent, because they are resentful at being rejected by women, or just to troll. Denigration of women may also be a way to cement bonds between men in all-male environments, which incel forums generally are.<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/07916035211034355</ref> Furthermore, a large amount of incel forum content seems to be posted by a few extremely active users,<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09546553.2019.1638256 p.5</ref> indicating that this type of discourse may be driven by a minority of users, as has been found in other controversial online forums.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/361917469_Comparing_Online_Posting_Typologies_among_Violent_and_Nonviolent_Right-Wing_Extremists</ref> | In terms of self-identified incels, as noted above, many do express misogynistic attitudes, either to vent, because they are resentful at being rejected by women, or just to troll. Denigration of women may also be a way to cement bonds between men in all-male environments, which incel forums generally are.<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/07916035211034355</ref> Furthermore, a large amount of incel forum content seems to be posted by a few extremely active users,<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09546553.2019.1638256 p.5</ref> indicating that this type of discourse may be driven by a minority of users, as has been found in other controversial online forums.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/361917469_Comparing_Online_Posting_Typologies_among_Violent_and_Nonviolent_Right-Wing_Extremists</ref> | ||