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The 18-25 is part of the kheyosphere, named after the way members call themselves "''[https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/khey#:~:text=Certaines%20int%C3%A9grations%20sont%20plus%20surprenantes%C2%A0%3A%20le%20mot%20%C2%AB%C2%A0khey%C2%A0%C2%BB%20d%C3%A9riv%C3%A9%20de%20l%E2%80%99arabe%20%C2%AB%C2%A0fr%C3%A8re%C2%A0%C2%BB%20est%20ainsi%20employ%C3%A9%20par%20les%20utilisateurs%20de%20l%E2%80%99un%20des%20plus%20grands%20forums%20fran%C3%A7ais%20sur%20Internet%2C%20le%2018%2D25%20de%20jeuxvideo.com%20qui%20s%E2%80%99autod%C3%A9signent%20par%20un%20mot%20venu%20de%20l%E2%80%99arabe. khey]''" which means (paradoxally for a rather nationalist forum) ''brother'' in arab language.
The 18-25 is part of the kheyosphere, named after the way members call themselves "''[https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/khey#:~:text=Certaines%20int%C3%A9grations%20sont%20plus%20surprenantes%C2%A0%3A%20le%20mot%20%C2%AB%C2%A0khey%C2%A0%C2%BB%20d%C3%A9riv%C3%A9%20de%20l%E2%80%99arabe%20%C2%AB%C2%A0fr%C3%A8re%C2%A0%C2%BB%20est%20ainsi%20employ%C3%A9%20par%20les%20utilisateurs%20de%20l%E2%80%99un%20des%20plus%20grands%20forums%20fran%C3%A7ais%20sur%20Internet%2C%20le%2018%2D25%20de%20jeuxvideo.com%20qui%20s%E2%80%99autod%C3%A9signent%20par%20un%20mot%20venu%20de%20l%E2%80%99arabe. khey]''" which means (paradoxally for a rather nationalist forum) ''brother'' in arab language.
==History and Achievements==
==History and Achievements==
Jeuxvideo.com is the very first french website dedicated to video games. Since its beginnings in 1997, the website Jeuxvideo.com has made available several rudimentary forums around video games, tips and tricks, network games.  
Jeuxvideo.com is the very first french website dedicated to video games. Since its beginnings in 1997, the website Jeuxvideo.com has made available several rudimentary forums around video games, tips and tricks, network games.  
===The 15-18 era===
===The 15-18 era===
In 2004, five forums splited in five age groups for random talk. These are the blablas. For very long the most active blabla was the '''[https://jvflux.fr/Blabla_15-18_ans Blabla 15-18 ans]''' ''(15 to 18 years old).'' Here a lot of teenagers gathered to have fun, trolling and flooding was very abundant. The first major ''delirium'' was a flood war between two factions (or rather cults) : the [https://jvflux.fr/Noelisme noelists] and the [https://jvflux.fr/Hapisme hapists] that respectively venerate and intensely used the smileys :noel: ''(christmas)'' and :hap: . This war was extreme in every proportion : from 2006 to roughly 2008 the forum was strongly fractured by this joke, involving several thousands of immature people. A lot of sub-groups were created in each factions, specific way of speaking, fictional nations and armys, whole mythologies based on those two smileys.
In 2004, five forums splited in five age groups for random talk. These are the blablas. For very long the most active blabla was the '''[https://jvflux.fr/Blabla_15-18_ans Blabla 15-18 ans]''' ''(15 to 18 years old).'' Here a lot of teenagers gathered to have fun, trolling and flooding was very abundant. The first major ''delirium'' was a flood war between two factions (or rather cults) : the [https://jvflux.fr/Noelisme noelists] and the [https://jvflux.fr/Hapisme hapists] that respectively venerate and intensely used the smileys :noel: ''(christmas)'' and :hap: . This war was extreme in every proportion : from 2006 to roughly 2008 the forum was strongly fractured by this joke, involving several thousands of immature people. A lot of sub-groups were created in each factions, specific way of speaking, fictional nations and armys, whole mythologies based on those two smileys.


This war continued to have a lasting influence on the subculture of the forum, and re-emerged many times through the community history. Still to this day :noel: and :hap: became the two symbols of the kheyosphere.
This war continued to have a lasting influence on the subculture of the forum, and re-emerged many times through the community history. Still to this day :noel: and :hap: became the two symbols of the kheyosphere.
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Up to 2014, the 15-18 was extremely active and every single day happened a raid against any community, website or online game, but also pranks, and harassment of many forumers by sending to their adress pizzas for exemple. The 15-18 was very euphoric most of the time with a huge kid and teen community that discover the joys of the internet.
Up to 2014, the 15-18 was extremely active and every single day happened a raid against any community, website or online game, but also pranks, and harassment of many forumers by sending to their adress pizzas for exemple. The 15-18 was very euphoric most of the time with a huge kid and teen community that discover the joys of the internet.
===The 18-25 migration===
===The 18-25 migration===
Toward the end of 2014, a major update of Jeuxvideo.com permits to see the number of connected on each forum, and the ''kheys'' discover that the upper 18-25 forum has become very active, more than the 15-18. The maturity of the '''[https://jvflux.fr/Blabla_18-25_ans blabla 18-25 ans]''' attracts more and more people tired of the neverending kikoo atmosphere of the 15-18<ref>https://jvarchive.com/forums/42-51-70843237-1-0-1-0-comment-sest-faite-la-migration-du-15-18-au-18-25</ref><ref>https://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/42-51-38036371-1-0-1-0-a-l-attention-des-debarques-du-15-18.htm</ref>. The community starts to slowly migrate to this new forum, and hence begins the second part of the kheyosphere history.
Toward the end of 2014, a major update of Jeuxvideo.com permits to see the number of connected on each forum, and the ''kheys'' discover that the upper 18-25 forum has become very active, more than the 15-18. The maturity of the '''[https://jvflux.fr/Blabla_18-25_ans blabla 18-25 ans]''' attracts more and more people tired of the neverending kikoo atmosphere of the 15-18<ref>https://jvarchive.com/forums/42-51-70843237-1-0-1-0-comment-sest-faite-la-migration-du-15-18-au-18-25</ref><ref>https://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/42-51-38036371-1-0-1-0-a-l-attention-des-debarques-du-15-18.htm</ref>. The community starts to slowly migrate to this new forum, and hence begins the second part of the kheyosphere history.
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History of the 18-25 is extremely vast with hundreds of deliriums, unique personnalities and events. Summarizing it is quite infeasible.
History of the 18-25 is extremely vast with hundreds of deliriums, unique personnalities and events. Summarizing it is quite infeasible.
 
===The censorship era===
=== The censorship era ===
In late 2017, the forum harasses a minor french journalist (Nadia Daam) after she vigoroulsy insulted the community on radio<ref>https://www.20minutes.fr/medias/2161643-20171101-video-harcelement-nadia-daam-attaque-trolls-antifeministes-jeuxvideocom-fait-lyncher</ref>. Every french media get on the case and this leads to crusade against the forum which is perceived to be ''problematic'' fo too many years. This was probably the straw that broke the camel's back after almost a decade of abundant trolling and pranking. The new society that bought Jeuxvideo.com (Webedia) is called upon to tighten its moderation very strictly. This will cause profound changes in the community and the golden age ends.
In late 2017, the forum harasses a minor french journalist (Nadia Daam) after she vigoroulsy insulted the community on radio<ref>https://www.20minutes.fr/medias/2161643-20171101-video-harcelement-nadia-daam-attaque-trolls-antifeministes-jeuxvideocom-fait-lyncher</ref>. Every french media get on the case and this leads to crusade against the forum which is perceived to be ''problematic'' fo too many years. This was probably the straw that broke the camel's back after almost a decade of abundant trolling and pranking. The new society that bought Jeuxvideo.com (Webedia) is called upon to tighten its moderation very strictly. This will cause profound changes in the community and the golden age ends.


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Today, moderation removes between 800 and 1200 topics per day, and Jeuxvideo.com has become the most censored website of Europe<ref>https://commission.europa.eu/system/files/2021-10/factsheet-6th-monitoring-round-of-the-code-of-conduct_october2021_en_1.pdf</ref> with 100% of signalments treated in 24h (60 to 80% for other social medias) and 80% are suppressed.
Today, moderation removes between 800 and 1200 topics per day, and Jeuxvideo.com has become the most censored website of Europe<ref>https://commission.europa.eu/system/files/2021-10/factsheet-6th-monitoring-round-of-the-code-of-conduct_october2021_en_1.pdf</ref> with 100% of signalments treated in 24h (60 to 80% for other social medias) and 80% are suppressed.
 
===Migration on another forum ?===
=== Migration on another forum ? ===
The 15 march 2023 a new system of levels is added to Jeuxvideo.com, limiting the number of posts for a new members to 10 per day. The level increases slowly with ''good conduct.'' After many years of abuse, this new feature is perceived as another betrayal. Approximately 30% of the community migrate to another forum called [[Onche.org]] where the moderation is way softer<ref>https://jvflux.fr/Grande_Migrationche_de_2023</ref>.
The 15 march 2023 a new system of levels is added to Jeuxvideo.com, limiting the number of posts for a new members to 10 per day. The level increases slowly with ''good conduct.'' After many years of abuse, this new feature is perceived as another betrayal. Approximately 30% of the community migrate to another forum called [[Onche.org]] where the moderation is way softer<ref>https://jvflux.fr/Grande_Migrationche_de_2023</ref>.


This fracture recquired a larger word to describe the community. The word ''kehyosphere'' was chosen to talk about the 18-25, Onche.org, other minor Jeuxvideo.com-like forums, and sub-groups on discord or social medias. The largeness of the kheyosphere is unknown, but it is probable more than ten thousand people.
This fracture recquired a larger word to describe the community. The word ''kehyosphere'' was chosen to talk about the 18-25, Onche.org, other minor Jeuxvideo.com-like forums, and sub-groups on discord or social medias. The largeness of the kheyosphere is unknown, but it is probable more than ten thousand people.
==Relationship with inceldom==
The 18-25, which is composed of 99% of men, has become permeable to [[incelosphere]] concepts in the 2010's. According to several polls, 50 to 60% of the ''kheys'' are [[Virginity|virgin]]<ref>https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeRrVQxdUlJRHiz2MpctjFmN3FGQarCU-q6Sd-YV6yV9UeJwA/viewanalytics<nowiki/>and https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1QytbJ0ICt84OenoXr4c4cru5o5_KnAPPBb00uLd4oko/viewanalytics</ref><ref>1700 votes poll : https://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/42-51-61800122-1-0-1-0-vous-etes-puceau-sondage.htm</ref><ref>Other polls : - https://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/42-51-70506229-3-0-1-0-grand-sondage-etes-vous-puceau.htm
- https://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/42-51-71776346-1-0-1-0-sondage-ultime-vous-etes-puceau.htm
- https://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/42-51-68127344-1-0-1-0-sondage-etes-vous-puceau.htm
- https://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/42-51-63369946-1-0-1-0-sondage-etes-vous-puceau.htm</ref><ref>Onche.org : https://strawpoll.com/polls/wby5Aj821yA/results</ref>, and among all forumers a minority consider themselves as incels<ref>https://strawpoll.com/polls/B2ZBER6qBgJ/results</ref>. At least 10% of the topic on the forum are about sexe, seduction, men and women relationships.
Among them, the [[redpill]] concept is very popular and is most of the time confused with the [[blackpill]]. Authors of redpill topics list several important facts about women absurd requirements, but also dellusional facts about wider society phenomenas. From january 2021 to may 2023, 30.000 topics contain the word "redpill" in their title<ref>https://jvarchive.com/topic/recherche?search=redpill&searchType=titre_topic&topicState</ref>, and only 5.000 with the word "blackpill". [[Michel Houellebecq]]'s work is also quite popular on the forum (650 topics).
[[Tinder]] in particular is quite discussed, most forumers have the ''[https://jvflux.fr/Bug_Tinder bug Tinder]'' (only a few likes by month) and some of them like to create ''fake BG'' ([[Tinder experiments|fake handsome]]) to have hundreds of matches and troll the women<ref>https://jvflux.fr/Fake_BG</ref>. Often they share the discussion they have with them in a topic to mock them or they use it for redpill material. They can also create ''fake magalie'' (fake obese 3/10 woman) for the same purpose and ascertain the fact that every single woman will get hundreds of matches whatever her profil looks like.


== Relationship with inceldom ==
* A copypasta called ''[https://jvflux.fr/Pav%C3%A9_Haine_Tinder Tinder Hate]'' has been written to synthetise the tinder experience of most kheys.
''Will be written''
* A humoristic copypasta about how hard it is to [https://jvflux.fr/Pav%C3%A9_Pour_avoir_une_copine find a girlfriend] for francels.
* A copypasta called ''[https://jvflux.fr/Pav%C3%A9_Faut_qu%27on_parle We need to talk]'' that explains several things about girls.


===Popular inceldom concepts===
The 18-25 has adopted several incel concepts in its own subculture.
*The [[Wizard]] is called the ''[https://jvflux.fr/Mage_Noir mage noir]'' (black mage). This term is used to describe any forumer that is still virgin past 30. The delirium has grown to imagine various specializations and ranks among Dark Mages, even more powerful titles as age advances (Overlord at 50 years old, or Emperor of Chaos at 80).
*The [[Decile|decile scale]] is very popular when discussing these subjects. ''Kheys'' often use the term [[Chad]] in its original meaning (but not [[Stacy]] : they rather define attractive females with the decile scale 8 to 10/10). Other names are unused. [https://jvflux.fr/Pav%C3%A9_Henry_Cavill Copypasta about Henry Cavill], the ultimate [[gigachad]] to many.
===Inceldom related===
*The ''[https://jvflux.fr/Magalie Magalie]'' (typical french redneck name) describes an unattractive, overweight, mediocre/vulgar and lower-class woman. This is an archetypal representation of the french housewife.
*The ''[https://jvflux.fr/Gourgandine gourgandine]'' (old french term) describes a runner and wanton female that hides it rather well. Its some kind of equivalent to [[Becky]].
==External links==
==External links==
*The [https://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/0-51-0-1-0-1-0-blabla-18-25-ans.htm '''Blabla 18-25 ans''']
*The [https://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/0-51-0-1-0-1-0-blabla-18-25-ans.htm '''Blabla 18-25 ans''']
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*[https://risibank.fr/ Official stickers bank Risibank]
*[https://risibank.fr/ Official stickers bank Risibank]
==References==
==References==
{{Reflist}}
Most of references used for this article are from the official wiki of the kheyosphere called JVFlux.{{Reflist}}
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