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==Being bullied and called names==
==Being bullied and called names==
In a CBC documentary, a former schoolmate of Minassian confirmed that Minassian was, "constantly bullied", and, "picked on". She said that his nickname was, "Chewbacca".<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqWjCHPg9gA at 6:08</ref>
In a CBC documentary, a former schoolmate of Minassian confirmed that Minassian was, "constantly bullied", and, "picked on". She said that his nickname was, "Chewbacca".<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqWjCHPg9gA at 6:08</ref>
==The 4Chan connection==
"''Private (Recruit) Minassian Infantry 00010, wishing to speak to Sgt [[4chan]] please. C23249161. The Incel Rebellion has already begun! We will overthrow all the Chads and Stacys! All hail the Supreme Gentleman Elliot Rodger!''" --alleged text of an Alek Minassian Facebook post before the rampage


[[4chan]] is a popular but controversial internet imageboard. "[[Chad]]" and "[[Stacy]]" are nicknames for stereotypical jocks and means girls that were apart of [[4chan]] culture for many years, used on incel-related forums and on the /r/incels subreddit (banned since November 7, 2017) on Reddit to refer to popular, attractive sexually-active men and women; a subreddit is an individual community on Reddit based on a topic of interest. The term "Incel Rebellion" is sometimes used interchangeably with the term "[[Beta Uprising]]", or "Beta Male Uprising" which refers to a violent response to sexlessness, which incels view as sexual deprivation
==Internet activity==
==Forums==
Before carrying out the Toronto van attack Minassian posted a message on Facebook stating: "Private (Recruit) Minassian Infantry 00010, wishing to speak to Sgt [[4chan]] please. C23249161. The Incel Rebellion has already begun! We will overthrow all the Chads and Stacys! All hail the Supreme Gentleman Elliot Rodger!" alleged text of an Alek Minassian Facebook post before the rampage.<ref>https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2018/04/24/facebook-deletes-post-linked-to-alek-minassian-amid-questions-about-its-authenticity.html</ref>
The various [[incel forums]] condemned the incident. There is no evidence that any forum incited Alek to commit the killing, nor is there any evidence Alek used any self-identified [[incel]] forums, as [[4chan]] is not an incel forum and [[Foreveralone]] is not self-identified (though it is geared toward [[involuntary celibates]]).


In a video interrogation released in September, Alek confessed to using [[4chan]], specifically /b/ (the random content board), [[/r9k/]] (the board geard toward original content, and ''de facto'' home of numerous celibacy discussions among other topics), and /pol/ (the board geared toward politics).<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4808&v=VyHgtSy41VM 1:17:00</ref>
[[4chan]] is a popular but controversial internet imageboard. "[[Chad]]" and "[[Stacy]]" are nicknames for stereotypical jocks and means girls that were apart of [[4chan]] culture for many years, used on incel-related forums and on the /r/incels subreddit (banned since November 7, 2017) on Reddit to refer to popular, attractive sexually-active men and women; a subreddit is an individual community on Reddit based on a topic of interest. The term "Incel Rebellion" is sometimes used interchangeably with the term "[[Beta Uprising]]", or "Beta Male Uprising" which refers to a violent response to the state of involuntary celibacy.


He also stated that he uses [[ForeverAlone]],<ref name=":0" /> but could not think of any other forums he uses. He refused to divulge his [[Foreveralone]] username.
===Forums===
There is no evidence that any forum incited Alek to commit the killing. It seems that Alek didn't actually make use of any of the self-identified [[incel]] forums that existed at the time, and the forums he did use were very mainstream, namely Reddit and 4chan. [[4chan]] is not an incel forum. The subreddit Minassian claimed to have used on Reddit, does not self-identify as incel, though the subreddit does cater towards individuals who struggle with dating.


He claimed to have been in contact with BOTH Harper-Mercer and Rodger with a username associated with an XBOX username of his: Xboxlightside<ref>https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/59j83n/everything-we-know-about-alek-minassian-the-alleged-toronto-van-attacker</ref> only on 4chan and Reddit. This is dubious of course, as neither Rodger nor Harper-Mercer had any notability prior to their acts.
In a video interrogation released in September, Alek discussed his use of 4chan, detailing his experience with using /b/ (the random content board), [[/r9k/]] (the board geard toward original content, and ''de facto'' home of numerous celibacy discussions among other topics), and /pol/ (the board geared toward politics).<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4808&v=VyHgtSy41VM 1:17:00</ref> He denied being political or connected to the [[Alt-Right]] and seemed to browse /pol/ mainly because of his enjoyment of the style of the board, which frequently includes shitposting and trolling.
 
He also stated in this interview that he used Reddit, specially the subreddit [[ForeverAlone]],<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4808&v=VyHgtSy41VM 1:25:00</ref> but could not think of any other forums he uses. He refused to divulge his Reddit username.
 
During the police interview, Minassian boasted acontact with BOTH Harper-Mercer and Rodger with a username associated with an XBOX username of his.<ref>https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/59j83n/everything-we-know-about-alek-minassian-the-alleged-toronto-van-attacker</ref> He claims he contacted Harper-Mercer on r9k and Elliot Rodger on Reddit a few days before the 2014 Isla Vista massacre perpetrated by the latter. This claim of Minassian's is of dubious validity and probably represents an attempt by Minassian to portray himself as a leader in a burgeoning 'movement'. Elliot Rodger's [[Elliot Rodger's online posts|comprehensively stalked]] online activity did not include browsing Reddit and Harper-Mercer was a nobody before he carried out his own massacre.


As stated in many [[incel communities]], the main policy of the respective admins is to delete any calls for murder or [[suicide]], and to contact authorities if necessary.
==Prosecution==
==Prosecution==
Alek was ''not'' charged with the crime of terrorism, or 83.1 of the Canadian criminal code. Experts in terrorism such as popular terrorism-subject podcaster Phil Gurskie say that he was probably not charged with terrorism because incel is not an ideology, but rather a life circumstance.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTx39aqEwFo</ref> Minassian's [[Facebook]] post was largely a [[shitpost]], a.k.a posts made insincerely. In Minassian's case, the insincere part being his pretending being [[incel]] is being part of a political movement.
Alek was ''not'' charged with the crime of terrorism, or 83.1 of the Canadian criminal code. Experts in terrorism such as popular terrorism-subject podcaster Phil Gurskie say that he was probably not charged with terrorism because incel is not an ideology, but rather a life circumstance.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTx39aqEwFo</ref> Minassian's [[Facebook]] post was largely a [[shitpost]], a.k.a posts made insincerely. In Minassian's case, the insincere part being his pretending being [[incel]] is being part of a political movement.
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