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Thus, many self-identified online incels share the general anti-feminist views of the alt-right, and both are responding to the same broad social issues being raised by secular increases in celibacy in some Western countries in their own way, albeit often influenced (consciously or not) by strains of thought that have influenced both, such as Manospherian writings. Despite this, these incel communities and the alt-right are clearly distinct groups. When certain incels in these communities do identify explicitly as alt-right, this has naturally lead to tensions, largely owing to the evident ethnic heterogeneity of incel forums. | Thus, many self-identified online incels share the general anti-feminist views of the alt-right, and both are responding to the same broad social issues being raised by secular increases in celibacy in some Western countries in their own way, albeit often influenced (consciously or not) by strains of thought that have influenced both, such as Manospherian writings. Despite this, these incel communities and the alt-right are clearly distinct groups. When certain incels in these communities do identify explicitly as alt-right, this has naturally lead to tensions, largely owing to the evident ethnic heterogeneity of incel forums. | ||
Another reason that people conflate incels and the alt-right may be that alt-right commentators have generally proven to be among the few politically active people willing to openly defend incels. These figures include [[Roger Devlin]] (who popularized the concept of hypergamy), the prominent neo-nazi [[Andrew Anglin]], and the person credited with coining the phrase 'alt-right' himself, [[Andy Nowicki]] (who calls himself a 'low-status man')<ref>https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/48516214-a-final-solution-to-the-incel-problem</ref> | Another reason that people conflate incels and the alt-right may be that alt-right commentators have generally proven to be among the few politically active people willing to openly defend incels. These figures include [[Roger Devlin]] (who popularized the concept of hypergamy), the prominent neo-nazi [[Andrew Anglin]], and the person credited with coining the phrase 'alt-right' himself, [[Andy Nowicki]] (who calls himself a 'low-status man').<ref>https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/48516214-a-final-solution-to-the-incel-problem</ref> These people may defend incels for several reasons, either to attract disaffected men to their cause, because they profess anti-feminist and pro-natalist views they perceive incels also hold, because they are sexually frustrated men themselves (if this predicts political extremism), or because they have a similar personality type to some of the more prominent and vocal online incels, and thus feel an affinity with them in that way. | ||
Other | Not all alt-rightists or right-wingers are sympathetic to incels, however. Their criticisms of incels seem to converge on similar themes. Certain alt-right adjacent commentators, such as [[Edward Dutton]], <ref>https://dbpedia.org/page/Edward_Dutton_(author)</ref> seem to disapprove of incels, mainly because they see them as mentally ill young men that are ultimately hostile to (or unable to fulfill) [[tradcon|traditional conservative gender roles]] such as protecting and providing for women.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/The_Jolly_Heretic#The_personality_of_incels</ref> Other alt-right types perceive incels as being weak mean motivated primarily by resentment, and thus engage in masculinist counter-signalling against them (or shaming of them as inadequate men if they are women). Finally, some alt-right or conservative women often criticize manosphere or incel content via an essentially conservative feminist lens.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEbizitDhRE</ref> | ||
Defenders of incels outside the [[alt-right]] also exist, e.g. Angela Nagle, various [[MRA]]s, and the rest of the people in [[:Category:Incelists|this list]]. Though, these defenders seem scant among the modern 'woke' left, apart from certain sex-positive feminists who promote legal prostitution in areas where this is illegal (if one sees this as a palliative to inceldom) or the provision of subsidized prostitutes to disabled men (who are probably disproportionately incel). Thus, as political liberals or leftists seem broadly more hostile to incels than the modern right in general, it is also possible they conflate incels with the alt-right to attack them, via identifying with their political enemies. This line of criticism would further serve to conflate incels and the alt-right in the eyes of many. | |||
==Are incels narcissists?== | ==Are incels narcissists?== | ||