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If negging works at all, the literature on intersexual [[bullying]] tends to suggest that it would be most effective in dyadic (i.e., one-on-one) environments, as male intersexual bullying directed towards women is associated with lower peer status, perhaps owing to the [[women-are-wonderful effect]] and men's general tendency to behave protectively toward women.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Anthony-Volk/publication/273905760_If_When_and_Why_Adolescent_Bullying_Is_Adaptive/links/55101d960cf2ac2905afe364/If-When-and-Why-Adolescent-Bullying-Is-Adaptive.pdf</ref><ref>https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.1108/JACPR-06-2016-0235/full/html</ref> | If negging works at all, the literature on intersexual [[bullying]] tends to suggest that it would be most effective in dyadic (i.e., one-on-one) environments, as male intersexual bullying directed towards women is associated with lower peer status, perhaps owing to the [[women-are-wonderful effect]] and men's general tendency to behave protectively toward women.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Anthony-Volk/publication/273905760_If_When_and_Why_Adolescent_Bullying_Is_Adaptive/links/55101d960cf2ac2905afe364/If-When-and-Why-Adolescent-Bullying-Is-Adaptive.pdf</ref><ref>https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.1108/JACPR-06-2016-0235/full/html</ref> | ||
==Mimetic Relationship Dynamic & Groucho's Law== | ==Mimetic Relationship Dynamic & Groucho's Law== | ||
Luke Burgis<ref>https://read.lukeburgis.com/p/mimetic-romance?s=r</ref> noted that people who plays the [[Negging]] trick is desiring high value mates, thus imitating such values to achieve attraction ("posturing" in [[Midwit]] logic). Conversely, the person enduring the [[Negging]] would also second-guesses itself whether its desire is externally mediated (envy) or not (direct desire). Referencing Rene Gerard and Neil Strauss:<blockquote></blockquote> | Luke Burgis<ref>https://read.lukeburgis.com/p/mimetic-romance?s=r</ref> noted that people who plays the [[Negging]] trick is desiring high value mates, thus imitating such values to achieve attraction ("posturing" in [[Midwit]] logic). Conversely, the person enduring the [[Negging]] would also second-guesses itself (FOMO) whether its desire is externally mediated (envy) or not (direct desire). Referencing Rene Gerard and Neil Strauss:<blockquote>The desire that a person has for another person (or thing) is completely tied to how the desire for that person or thing is modeled to them by other people.</blockquote> | ||
Venkatesh Rao<ref>https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2010/10/14/the-gervais-principle-iv-wonderful-human-beings/</ref> furthers this in a social context, and coins two laws based on Groucho Marx, on how people do not want to know they are "settling for less" through [[Decile]]-denialism within homogenous environments, in relation to [[Mogging]]:<blockquote> | Venkatesh Rao<ref>https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2010/10/14/the-gervais-principle-iv-wonderful-human-beings/</ref> furthers this in a social context, and coins two laws based on Groucho Marx, on how people do not want to know they are "settling for less" through [[Decile]]-denialism within homogenous environments, in relation to [[Mogging]]:<blockquote> | ||
'''Marx’s First Law of Status Illegibility''': the illegibility of the status of any member of a group is proportional to his/her distance from the edges of the group. | '''Marx’s First Law of Status Illegibility''': the illegibility of the status of any member of a group is proportional to his/her distance from the edges of the group. | ||
'''Marx’s Second Law of Status Illegibility''': the stability of the group membership of any member is proportional to the illegibility of his/her status.</blockquote>In either case, the illusive effect of [[Negging]] and [[Mogging]] falls apart when envy of the recipient is resolved, or that the person in question is not worth being envious about, opting for [[Chad]] or [[Stacy]] as direct desire in and of itself. | '''Marx’s Second Law of Status Illegibility''': the stability of the group membership of any member is proportional to the illegibility of his/her status.</blockquote>In either case, the illusive effect of [[Negging]] and [[Mogging]] falls apart when envy of the recipient is resolved, or that the person in question is not worth being envious about, opting for [[Chad]] or [[Stacy]] as direct objective desire in and of itself. | ||
The Logic Of Envy<ref>https://robkhenderson.substack.com/p/the-logic-of-envy?s=r</ref> also fits within this model, further elaborates on [[Cuckoldry]] being the flip side of marital neglect, instead of [[Porn]] being the flip side of voluntary impotence against shattering fantasy. | |||
==Examples== | ==Examples== | ||
Some examples of negging are: | Some examples of negging are: | ||
* "Nice nails, are they real?" | *"Nice nails, are they real?" | ||
*"I think I saw some girls with more ridiculous shoes here, but you’re definitely in the top 2/5/10/[whatever number makes sense based on the size of the venue]." | *"I think I saw some girls with more ridiculous shoes here, but you’re definitely in the top 2/5/10/[whatever number makes sense based on the size of the venue]." | ||