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Many have noted that NoFap forums appear to have a large overlap with [[incel forums]] in terms of overall themes and characteristics of the forum users. | Many have noted that NoFap forums appear to have a large overlap with [[incel forums]] in terms of overall themes and characteristics of the forum users. | ||
==NoFap and inceldom== | ==NoFap and inceldom== | ||
[[File:Nofap timeline.jpg|thumb|Claimed benefits from NoFap (source: https://1st-man.com/nofap-timeline/)]] | [[File:Nofap timeline.jpg|thumb|Claimed benefits from NoFap (source: https://1st-man.com/nofap-timeline/)]] | ||
NoFap would not appear to be an effective intervention to cure inceldom, in the vast majority of cases, at least, because | NoFap would not appear to be an effective intervention to cure inceldom, in the vast majority of cases, at least, because | ||
# testosterone levels have very little to do with mating success in men<ref>https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.06.980896v1/</ref> (assuming abstention has any major effect on [[Testosterone|T]] levels, which it doesn't) | # testosterone levels have very little to do with mating success in men<ref>https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.06.980896v1/</ref> (assuming abstention has any major effect on [[Testosterone|T]] levels, which it doesn't) | ||
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==NoFap community== | ==NoFap community== | ||
Nofappers are a subset of the [[manosphere]] entirely focused on fapstinence. These nofappers often congregate on various platforms titled NoFap. They believe that semen-retention will help with [[confidence]] levels, assertiveness, [[Reproductive success|success]] with [[dating]], and other behaviors associated with being high-T. | Nofappers are a subset of the [[manosphere]] entirely focused on fapstinence. These nofappers often congregate on various platforms titled NoFap. They believe that semen-retention will help with [[confidence]] levels, assertiveness, [[Reproductive success|success]] with [[dating]], and other behaviors associated with being high-T. | ||
== NoFap as a cult == | |||
=== Arguments for it === | |||
# The Argument that Asceticism as historically involved with the occult (e.g. Satanism)<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/a2mdsa/nofap_is_a_fucking_buckshit_cult_filled_with/</ref> | |||
# NoFap can enable chronic anxiety<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/co1he5/rnofap_is_a_cult/</ref> and insomnia<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/n5csu7/i_have_survived_the_worst_days_of_my_life_after_8/</ref> | |||
# A lack of historical context on Victorian celibacy<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/circlebroke/comments/20ipuu/rnofap_is_turning_into_an_ascetic_cult/</ref> | |||
# Alpha-faking and ego-stroking (i.e. insecurity) in the movement<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/gf15ie/rnofap_is_becoming_a_sad_cult_of_delusional/</ref> | |||
=== Arguments against it === | |||
# Those that complain that NoFap does not work, often has traits of [[Elliot Rodger]] (e.g. aggression, apathy of women, "hatred" against women). | |||
# Pornography and sexual idolatry also have historical basis in the occult | |||
=== Ulterior political motives of both sides === | |||
Feminists<ref>https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/NoFap</ref> have identified that NoFap is a movement that has only gained traction as a "Radical Right Wing Movement", of which conservative and libertarian groups (e.g. Proud Boys, Bannon's Election campaign) would not deny. | |||
== NoFap as a fetish == | |||
Orgasm denial<ref>https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Erotic_sexual_denial</ref> is a subtype of BDSM, and that ironically, those that claim to be "ascetics" and the political right are engaging in this debauchery through open declaration. There is a claim that populists and hyper-conservatives are more likely to engage in BDSM-like behaviors, since it is an analogue to authoritarian policies<ref>https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Conservative-sexual-fetishes-A-hardcore-guide-2511250.php</ref>. Others have suggested that US Democrats fantasizes about BDSM more, whilst US Republicans fantasizes about cuckoldry more<ref>https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/27/sexual-fantasies-republicans-democrats-politics-221919/</ref> (note: that the Democrat-Republican axis and the liberal-conservative axis can be non-equivalent). Some<ref>https://jerusalemmortimer.com/why-might-left-wing-people-have-more-bdsm-fantasies-than-right-wingers/</ref> attempted to explain that populism is the intermediating factor. | |||
In UK politics<ref>https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2015/02/13/50-shades-left-and-right-sex-and-politics-britain</ref> Labor (Left) are more likely to engage in Oral Sex and Role Play, whereas LibDem and UKIP (Libertarians) are more likely to engage in masturbation and bondage. | |||
==No Nut November== | ==No Nut November== | ||
Another subgroup of the fapstinence effort, is the group No Nut November. The main goal of this group is to avoid ejaculating for an entire month, typically the month of November. This month was largely randomly chosen, so there is no fixed commemoration. However, it has largely the same end goal as the other major fapstinence group, NoFap, although each adherent has slight differences in its manifestations. As a counterpoint, Destroy Dick December is by some embraced to make good for the previous month of abstinence.<ref>https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/destroy-dick-december-masturbation-challenge-meme/</ref> | Another subgroup of the fapstinence effort, is the group No Nut November. The main goal of this group is to avoid ejaculating for an entire month, typically the month of November. This month was largely randomly chosen, so there is no fixed commemoration. However, it has largely the same end goal as the other major fapstinence group, NoFap, although each adherent has slight differences in its manifestations. As a counterpoint, Destroy Dick December is by some embraced to make good for the previous month of abstinence.<ref>https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/destroy-dick-december-masturbation-challenge-meme/</ref> | ||