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Many have noted that NoFap forums appear to have a large overlap with [[incel forums]] in terms of overall themes and characteristics of the forum users.
Many have noted that NoFap forums appear to have a large overlap with [[incel forums]] in terms of overall themes and characteristics of the forum users.
==NoFap and inceldom==
==NoFap and inceldom==
NoFap would not appear to be an effective intervention to cure inceldom (in the vast majority of cases, at least) as 1) testosterone levels have very little to do with mating success in men<ref>https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.06.980896v1/</ref> (assuming abstention has any major effect on T levels,which it doesn't), and 2) some research has indicted a positive linear relationship between porn use frequency in males and their odds of being in a relationship (and thus the majority of men are not substantially limited in attaining relationships owing to their porn use).<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1743609520300473</ref>
NoFap would not appear to be an effective intervention to cure inceldom, in the vast majority of cases, at least, because
 
# testosterone levels have very little to do with mating success in men<ref>https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.06.980896v1/</ref> (assuming abstention has any major effect on [[Testosterone|T]] levels, which it doesn't)
# some research has indicted a positive linear relationship between porn use frequency in males and their odds of being in a relationship (and thus the majority of men are not substantially limited in attaining relationships owing to their porn use).<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1743609520300473</ref>


In the US's long-running General Social Survey (GSS), pornography non-use was a significant predictor of sexlessness in the years 2000-2018, suggesting that abstention from pornography is generally associated with a lower sex drive, voluntarily celibacy, and perhaps a slower [[life history theory|life history speed]].<ref>https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767066</ref>
In the US's long-running General Social Survey (GSS), pornography non-use was a significant predictor of sexlessness in the years 2000-2018, suggesting that abstention from pornography is generally associated with a lower sex drive, voluntarily celibacy, and perhaps a slower [[life history theory|life history speed]].<ref>https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2767066</ref>
== Scientific evidence ==
== Scientific evidence ==
The hype around fapstinence appears to have gained impetus from a 2011 [[Reddit]] post to /r/TIL about a single Chinese study claiming fapstinence would boost T levels.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/i514e/til_when_men_dont_masturbate_for_7_days_their/</ref><ref>Jiang M, Xin J, Zou Q, Shen JW (2003). "A research on the relationship between ejaculation and serum testosterone level in men." Journal of Zhejiang University Science A. 4 (2): 236–240. doi:10.1631/jzus.2003.0236.</ref> This study was, however, based on a tiny sample and other results are demonstrating an ''increase'' in T levels following masturbation.<ref>https://theconversation.com/nofap-can-giving-up-masturbation-really-boost-mens-testosterone-levels-an-experts-view-157701</ref> It is possible that masturbation causes a small spike in testosterone release (seemingly associated with sexual arousal in general),<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0306453093900056</ref> but that abstaining from masturbation can also weakly boost testosterone, possibly as an adaption to increase mating drive as testosterone does increase libido.
The hype around fapstinence appears to have gained impetus from a 2011 [[Reddit]] post to /r/TIL about a single Chinese study claiming fapstinence would boost T levels.<ref>https://old.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/i514e/til_when_men_dont_masturbate_for_7_days_their/</ref><ref>Jiang M, Xin J, Zou Q, Shen JW (2003). "A research on the relationship between ejaculation and serum testosterone level in men." Journal of Zhejiang University Science A. 4 (2): 236–240. doi:10.1631/jzus.2003.0236.</ref> This study was, however, based on a tiny sample and other results are demonstrating an ''increase'' in T levels following masturbation.<ref>https://theconversation.com/nofap-can-giving-up-masturbation-really-boost-mens-testosterone-levels-an-experts-view-157701</ref> It is possible that masturbation causes a small spike in testosterone release (seemingly associated with sexual arousal in general),<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0306453093900056</ref> but that abstaining from masturbation can also weakly boost testosterone, possibly as an adaption to increase mating drive as testosterone does increase libido.
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