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(Added a section on sexual antagonism and sexual conflict. Added to evidence against female promiscuity. Added to evidence for female promiscuity regarding the Nigerian Himba tribe (I'm somewhat skeptical of some of the research surrounding them, but curre)
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*The relatively small midpiece of human sperm required (comparable to the Gorilla) which indicates a monogamous mating system as larger midpieces are found in promiscuous mating systems<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/11432422_Sperm_competition_-_Motility_and_the_midpiece_in_primates?_sg=Iu7eEJDjjOdBrvQqWOSdwB5n71Gimq72v9sJRBeA_XLXlgFdgf0lXwaNPtCdZ3gbuqsa0zpKDzJ4qjI</ref><ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/231916755_Sperm_competition_and_the_evolution_of_sperm_midpiece_volume_in_mammals</ref>; specifically the human sperm midpiece has 15 mitochondria, much less than what can be found in the chimpanzee.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/18950923_Biology_of_primate_spermatozoa</ref><ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312463724_The_mammalian_spermatozoon_Morphology_biochemistry_and_physiology<br /></ref>
*The relatively small midpiece of human sperm required (comparable to the Gorilla) which indicates a monogamous mating system as larger midpieces are found in promiscuous mating systems<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/11432422_Sperm_competition_-_Motility_and_the_midpiece_in_primates?_sg=Iu7eEJDjjOdBrvQqWOSdwB5n71Gimq72v9sJRBeA_XLXlgFdgf0lXwaNPtCdZ3gbuqsa0zpKDzJ4qjI</ref><ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/231916755_Sperm_competition_and_the_evolution_of_sperm_midpiece_volume_in_mammals</ref>; specifically the human sperm midpiece has 15 mitochondria, much less than what can be found in the chimpanzee.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/18950923_Biology_of_primate_spermatozoa</ref><ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312463724_The_mammalian_spermatozoon_Morphology_biochemistry_and_physiology<br /></ref>
*The Vas Deferens is long and thin in humans (something that is typical of species with low levels of sperm competition)<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/229542547_Sperm_competition_affects_the_structure_of_the_mammalian_vas_deferens?_sg=8WQpAetxLid6-Nzl3Iuslmh-FB2fyO-HmmeWyvHEIZQITncEEr_2CNFCCkNFTZi5mhSoPY8X7fI26VY</ref>
*The Vas Deferens is long and thin in humans (something that is typical of species with low levels of sperm competition)<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/229542547_Sperm_competition_affects_the_structure_of_the_mammalian_vas_deferens?_sg=8WQpAetxLid6-Nzl3Iuslmh-FB2fyO-HmmeWyvHEIZQITncEEr_2CNFCCkNFTZi5mhSoPY8X7fI26VY</ref>
 
*Low rates of Extra-pair paternity despite the widespread use of contraception. If the dual-mating hypothesis were true and women were adapted to cuckold their husbands with men with superior genes, contraception should make this much easier to achieve; thus we should see an increase in the number of Extra-pair paternity cases (as that's what women should've been adapted for) but we don't. One study measuring Extra-pair paternity over the last 400 years (well before the advent of extremely effective contraception) found, on average, an Extra-paternity rate of 0.46%-1.76%.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318685386_Genetic-genealogy_approach_reveals_low_rate_of_extrapair_paternity_in_historical_Dutch_populations</ref> Simliar conclusions were made elsewhere.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/276072433_Three_hundred_years_of_low_non-paternity_in_a_human_population</ref> That Extra-pair paternity has remained relatively stable, despite being easier to accomplish, undermines that dual-mating hypothesis that women seek to procure good genes from their affair partners.
*The rate of extra-pair paternity is low when compared to the rate of infidilety. Roughly 1.5% EPP to 13% of women who engage in adultery.<ref>https://ifstudies.org/blog/number-1-in-2018-who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-infidelity-in-america<br /></ref> If infidelity has been selected for the purpose of procuring good genes, then it is puzzling why the ratio of rate EPP to rate of adultery is only about 1 : 8.6 as we would expect much higher.
In summary, due to high female resource dependence and parental investment, and other factors mentioned, female promiscuity appears to be limited to a minority of women with a fast [[life history]] disposition or women who temporarily fall for feminist [[slay queen|dating advice]], and assertions about high female promiscuity may rather stem from an innate male sensitivity about paternit
Evidence for it (with counter-arguments):
Evidence for it (with counter-arguments):


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*In the Himba tribe of Nigeria women who cuckold their husbands by having children with other men are more reproductively successful than those who don't (somewhere between 17%-48% of children are not sired by their fathers as compared to the low rate of extra pair paternity of 3% in western countries).<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51471838_Female_choice_and_extra-pair_paternity_in_a_traditional_human_population</ref>
*In the Himba tribe of Nigeria women who cuckold their husbands by having children with other men are more reproductively successful than those who don't (somewhere between 17%-48% of children are not sired by their fathers as compared to the low rate of extra pair paternity of 3% in western countries).<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51471838_Female_choice_and_extra-pair_paternity_in_a_traditional_human_population</ref>
**Know whilsts this is certainly interisting to look at, it is unlikely that the conditions that allow women whom cuckold their husbands in the Himba tribe are widespread. For one, men are aware whose children are genetically their and those whom aren't (they are reffered to as 'omaka') and both women and men regularly engage in adultery (seemingly openly). The reason why the women whom cuckold their husbands enjoy greater greater reproductive success is two fold. Firstly favouring genetic children over omaka is genrally frowned upon, this is the exception rather than the rule when it comes to how men deal with children in humans. Almost no other culture in history would condemn a man for favouring his own children over other children; the only modern exception to this would be regressive France that criminilized paternity tests. Secondly the actual fathers of the omaka often give food to the women they've had children with. So the greater reproductive success essentially comes from the fact that women recieve resources from both their husbands and lovers and would thus have healthier children and lower mortality rates. Finally when a man dies, his sister inherits his possessions not his children; this essentially lowers the cost of him being cuckolded by other men as he invests less into his children. Interisting to note that most marriages in the Himba are arranged (the women have no say) and that 'love matches' (marriages were the women has married for love) experienced lower rates of extra-pair paternity. Now whilst it might be interisting to study, it would be fallacious to assume that simply because this one tribe that displays a chimpanzee like mating system therefore ancestral females were promiscuos, they were not. The genetic and morphological presented above opposing rampant female promiscuity is reflective of millions of years of evolution and is a ''far'' better indicator of what ancestral females were like.
**Know whilsts this is certainly interisting to look at, it is unlikely that the conditions that allow women whom cuckold their husbands in the Himba tribe are widespread. For one, men are aware whose children are genetically their and those whom aren't (they are reffered to as 'omaka') and both women and men regularly engage in adultery (seemingly openly). The reason why the women whom cuckold their husbands enjoy greater greater reproductive success is two fold. Firstly favouring genetic children over omaka is genrally frowned upon, this is the exception rather than the rule when it comes to how men deal with children in humans. Almost no other culture in history would condemn a man for favouring his own children over other children; the only modern exception to this would be regressive France that criminilized paternity tests. Secondly the actual fathers of the omaka often give food to the women they've had children with. So the greater reproductive success essentially comes from the fact that women recieve resources from both their husbands and lovers and would thus have healthier children and lower mortality rates. Finally when a man dies, his sister inherits his possessions not his children; this essentially lowers the cost of him being cuckolded by other men as he invests less into his children. Interisting to note that most marriages in the Himba are arranged (the women have no say) and that 'love matches' (marriages were the women has married for love) experienced lower rates of extra-pair paternity. Now whilst it might be interisting to study, it would be fallacious to assume that simply because this one tribe that displays a chimpanzee like mating system therefore ancestral females were promiscuos, they were not. The genetic and morphological presented above opposing rampant female promiscuity is reflective of millions of years of evolution and is a ''far'' better indicator of what ancestral females were like.
 
y assurance and about losing [[status]] getting [[cuck]]ed or [[mog]]ged, rather than actually high promiscuity observed in modern human females.
In summary, due to high female resource dependence and parental investment, and other factors mentioned, female promiscuity appears to be limited to a minority of women with a fast [[life history]] disposition or women who temporarily fall for feminist [[slay queen|dating advice]], and assertions about high female promiscuity may rather stem from an innate male sensitivity about paternity assurance and about losing [[status]] getting [[cuck]]ed or [[mog]]ged, rather than actually high promiscuity observed in modern human females.


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