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'''True Forced Loneliness'''<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20090910173207/http://trueforcedloneliness.com/about/</ref> (2008'ish), known as TFL, was started and promoted by the three youtubers: [[William Greathouse]] (bill1224601), [[Dwayne Holloway]] (chisma), and [[Steve Hoca]] as a singular vlogging group with a website describing their philosophy[https://web.archive.org/web/20090910173207/http://trueforcedloneliness.com/about/].  Around 2008, three years after Youtube began, they began to make youtube videos online.  All three original TFLers eventually split ways, and still make videos today with the exception of [[Dwayne Holloway]] who started a campaign against [[William Greathouse]] before he left Youtube.  Over 16 Youtube vloggers have self-identified and built a channel around the TFL label since 2008.  
'''True Forced Loneliness'''<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20090910173207/http://trueforcedloneliness.com/about/</ref> (2008'ish), known as TFL, was started and promoted by the three youtubers: [[William Greathouse]] (bill1224601), [[Dwayne Holloway]] (chisma), and [[Steve Hoca]] as a singular vlogging group with a website describing their philosophy[https://web.archive.org/web/20090910173207/http://trueforcedloneliness.com/about/].  Around 2008, three years after Youtube began, they began to make youtube videos online.  All three original TFLers eventually split ways, and still make videos today with the exception of [[Dwayne Holloway]] who started a campaign against [[William Greathouse]] before he left Youtube.  Over 16 Youtube vloggers have self-identified and built a channel around the TFL label since 2008.  


Looking back, as a whole TFL is best thought of as the beginning of incel vlogging on Youtube, centered around [[Steve Hoca|Steve Hoca's]] friends/fans and later [[Kent]]'s friends/fans, and their vlogging style. Most modern TFL vloggers can be categorized as either an incel or MGTOW vlogger in addition to being a TFL vlogger.  The only differences between TFL and incel communties are that TFLers tend to be mostly unaware of the incelosphere, lean toward a [[MGTOW]] perspective and vlogging style more often than incels, use poorer recording techniques and advertizement, and are mostly non-white, with incel vloggers being about half non-white instead.
Looking back, as a whole TFL is best thought of as the beginning of vlogging on Youtube in the [[English incelosphere]]. It centered around [[Steve Hoca|Steve Hoca's]] friends/fans and later [[Kent]]'s friends/fans, and their vlogging style. Most modern TFL vloggers can be categorized as either an incelibate or MGTOW vlogger in addition to being a TFL vlogger.  The only differences between TFL and [[incelibate]] communties are that TFLers tend to be mostly unaware of the incelosphere, lean toward a [[MGTOW]] perspective and vlogging style more often than incels, use poorer recording techniques and advertizement, and are mostly non-white, with self-identified incelibate vloggers being about half non-white instead.


==Modern TFL==
==Modern TFL==

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