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'''Nihilism/fatalism''': Some blackpillers say the damage done by feminism and various other factors is irreparable at this point and advocate fatalism.<ref>https://incels.co/threads/glassespill-its-over-for-glasscels-do-not-enter-if-vision-is-not-20-20.136257/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/its-over-for-boliviancels.136006/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/classic-movie-scene-this-is-whats-gonna-happen-if-you-ask-a-girl-out.144537/#post-3026437</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/redpillers-acting-like-jerks-all-the-time.142864/#post-2991514</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/nobody-will-ever-love-you.144830/</ref> | '''Nihilism/fatalism''': Some blackpillers say the damage done by feminism and various other factors is irreparable at this point and advocate fatalism.<ref>https://incels.co/threads/glassespill-its-over-for-glasscels-do-not-enter-if-vision-is-not-20-20.136257/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/its-over-for-boliviancels.136006/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/classic-movie-scene-this-is-whats-gonna-happen-if-you-ask-a-girl-out.144537/#post-3026437</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/redpillers-acting-like-jerks-all-the-time.142864/#post-2991514</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/nobody-will-ever-love-you.144830/</ref> | ||
Such blackpillers are often driven by [[biological essentialism|essentialist]] views that female sexuality is so strongly biologically hardwired that it would require a civil war to undo the sexual revolution, or that it is simply not feasible and has also historically never been substantially better (which is false since the number of incels is likely at a [[demographics|historical peak]]). | Such blackpillers are often driven by [[biological essentialism|essentialist]] views that female sexuality is so strongly biologically hardwired that it would require a civil war to undo the sexual revolution, or that it is simply not feasible and has also historically never been substantially better (which is false since the number of incels is likely at a [[demographics|historical peak]]). | ||
Some social darwinist blackpillers promote fatalism and advocate [[incelicide]]. | |||
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'''Traditionalism''': [[Tradcon|Traditionalist]] believe one should return to the nuclear family<ref>https://incels.co/threads/if-men-cant-be-protectors-providers-theyll-be-destroyers-deprivers.140942/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/being-anti-religion-is-not-only-contradictory-but-also-completely-anti-incels.146724</ref> | '''Traditionalism''': [[Tradcon|Traditionalist]] believe one should return to the nuclear family<ref>https://incels.co/threads/if-men-cant-be-protectors-providers-theyll-be-destroyers-deprivers.140942/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/being-anti-religion-is-not-only-contradictory-but-also-completely-anti-incels.146724</ref> | ||
Some regard religion as necessary, while others simply propose atheistic monogamy.<ref>https://incels.co/threads/me-52m-just-found-out-at-least-4-of-my-5-children-33f-30f-28m-24f-14f-are-not-mine-wife-51f-wont-say-anything.115218/page-3#post-2959506</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/germany-1950-was-an-incel-wet-dream.147144/#post-3085283</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/for-normies-inceltears-modern-day-expressions-of-female-sexuality-are-cringe-just-posturing-trying-to-emulate-male-sexuality-penis-envy.145710/#post-3061135</ref> | Some regard religion as necessary, while others simply propose atheistic monogamy.<ref>https://incels.co/threads/me-52m-just-found-out-at-least-4-of-my-5-children-33f-30f-28m-24f-14f-are-not-mine-wife-51f-wont-say-anything.115218/page-3#post-2959506</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/germany-1950-was-an-incel-wet-dream.147144/#post-3085283</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/for-normies-inceltears-modern-day-expressions-of-female-sexuality-are-cringe-just-posturing-trying-to-emulate-male-sexuality-penis-envy.145710/#post-3061135</ref> | ||
Some [[tradcon#Other_Criticism|fear]] that a return to religion, hierarchies and chivalry (man proves himself to and protects the woman) will only lead to an exploitation of low status males, e.g. by duty to die in war or economic exploitation. | Some [[tradcon#Other_Criticism|fear]] that a return to religion, hierarchies and chivalry (man proves himself to and protects the woman) will only lead to an exploitation of low status males, e.g. by duty to die in war or economic exploitation. | ||
</li><li>'''Technology''': In opposition to traditionalists, some blackpillers claim that technological progress, such as highly immersive simulated relationship experiences and realistic [[sex doll|sex dolls]] present a possible solution to increasing male social alienation and inceldom. Critics of these solutions maintain that due to phenomena such as the "uncanny valley" effect, such experiences will prove to be, essentially, an elaborate form of masturbation, and will likely not serve as suitable substitutes for actual sex and companionship. Artificial wombs are also touted as a technological solution for incels who wish to reproduce without a willing female partner. Some blackpillers also view advances in the medical field of plastic surgery as a source of optimism, and claim widespread societal awareness of lookism—potentially leading to government subsidized plastic surgery for incels—would also present a possible solution to the problem. | </li><li>'''Technology''': In opposition to traditionalists, some blackpillers claim that technological progress, such as highly immersive simulated relationship experiences and realistic [[sex doll|sex dolls]] present a possible solution to increasing male social alienation and inceldom. Critics of these solutions maintain that due to phenomena such as the "uncanny valley" effect, such experiences will prove to be, essentially, an elaborate form of masturbation, and will likely not serve as suitable substitutes for actual sex and companionship. Artificial wombs are also touted as a technological solution for incels who wish to reproduce without a willing female partner. Some blackpillers also view advances in the medical field of plastic surgery as a source of optimism, and claim widespread societal awareness of lookism—potentially leading to government subsidized plastic surgery for incels—would also present a possible solution to the problem. | ||
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