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[[Incel]], is an [[Donnelly Study#Incel is Now a Valid Academic Sociological Term|academic sociological term]] that is short for and means, '<nowiki/>'''involuntary celibacy'''', a life circumstance. Individual philosophies like the [[blackpill]] or subcultures like [[4chan]] culture emerge on some, but not all, forums dedicated to involuntary celibates and go in and out of fashion.  [[Inceldom]] was first academically recognized as a sociological phenomenon by the [[Donnelly Study]].  The [[Donnelly Study]] defined incels as all adults who want to have a willing sexual partner of the gender that they are attracted to, but cannot find one for six months or more.  This definition, however, has too many holes.   
 
[[Incel]], is an [[Donnelly Study#Incel is Now a Valid Academic Sociological Term|academic sociological term]] that is short for and means, '<nowiki/>'''involuntary celibacy'''', a life circumstance. Individual philosophies like the [[blackpill]] or subcultures like [[4chan]] culture emerge on some, but not all, forums dedicated to involuntary celibates and go in and out of fashion.  [[Inceldom]] was first academically recognized as a sociological phenomenon by the [[Donnelly Study]].  The [[Donnelly Study]] defined incels as all adults who want to have a willing sexual partner of the gender that they are attracted to, but cannot find one for six months or more.  This definition, however, has too many holes.   
  
For the purposes of this wiki, an incel is someone who would be rejected by the vast majority of the single members of the gender they are attracted to in spaces socially designated for dating if they tried, for at least a few years.  [[Ton den Boon|The first lexicographer to define "incel"]], defined it as a gender-neutral life cirumstance rather than a subculture. Its unabbreviated form was coined in 1739 by [[Antoine Banier]] in his book on ancient Greek mythology.
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For this wiki, an incel is someone who would be rejected by the vast majority of the single members of the gender they are attracted to in spaces socially designated for dating if they tried, for at least a few years.  [[Ton den Boon|The first lexicographer to define "incel"]], described it as a gender-neutral life circumstance rather than a subculture. Its unabbreviated form was coined in 1739 by [[Antoine Banier]] in his book on ancient Greek mythology.
  
 
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==Shared experiences==
 
==Shared experiences==
 
[[File:461.jpg|thumb|right|Something most women don't do]]
 
[[File:461.jpg|thumb|right|Something most women don't do]]
Because the definition of incel is wonky, there are a number of shared experiences incels have that are worth highlighting.   
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Because the definition of incel is wonky, there are several shared experiences incels have that are worth highlighting.   
  
 
Incels generally have:
 
Incels generally have:
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==Shared beliefs==
 
==Shared beliefs==
There are no shared beliefs among incels as a whole as incels are not a [[incel community|community]], movement etc.  However for '''self-described''' incels, the only shared belief is [[determinism|hard determinism]].
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There are no shared beliefs among incels as a whole as incels are not a [[incel community|community]], movement, etc.  However for '''self-described''' incels, the only shared belief is [[determinism|hard determinism]].
  
 
==Sexual frustration vs. inceldom==  
 
==Sexual frustration vs. inceldom==  
  
Inceldom overlaps but is distinct from '[[sexual frustration]]', in that an involuntary celibate may simply accept their [[incelibacy]] and not feel bad about it.
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Inceldom overlaps but is distinct from '[[sexual frustration]]', in that an involuntary celibate may accept their [[incelibacy]] and not feel bad about it.
  
==Can't an incel just see a hooker?==
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==Can't an incel see a hooker?==
  
Frequenting [[prostitutes]] or being a sugar daddy/mommy does not count as a sexual, romantic, or even social relationship, but rather a financial relationship, as the relationship remains without sex/romance/sociability, but not without money.  Even if it did count as a sexual or romantic [[relationship]], most self-identified incels cannot afford it on a regular basis.  Also, many [[escortcel]]s frequently characterize prostitution as not a fully sexual experience as it usually lacks sexual validation.  Legalization of prostitution can mitigate the [[side effects of inceldom]] but it does not constitute a sexual relationship.  
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Frequenting [[prostitutes]] or being a sugar daddy/mommy does not count as a sexual, romantic, or even social relationship, but rather a financial relationship, as the relationship remains without sex/romance/sociability, but not without money.  Even if it did count as a sexual or romantic [[relationship]], most self-identified incels cannot afford it regularly.  Also, many [[escortcel]]s frequently characterize prostitution as not a full sexual experience as it usually lacks sexual validation.  Legalization of prostitution can mitigate the [[side effects of inceldom]], but it does not constitute a sexual relationship.  
  
 
Incels want genuine companionship.
 
Incels want genuine companionship.
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==Love-shy vs. incel==
 
==Love-shy vs. incel==
  
[[Love-shy|Love-shyness]] is the fear of romantic or sexual [[relationship]]s. It is possible for a person to be both [[incel]] and [[love-shy]],  and most are both to some degree or another. For instance, a person could originally be incel, then suffer large numbers of turn downs, and eventually become [[love-shy]] and unable to approach.
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[[Love-shy|Love-shyness]] is the fear of romantic or sexual [[relationship]]s. It is possible for a person to be both [[incel]] and [[love-shy]],  and most are both to some degree or another. For instance, a person could initially be incel, then suffer large numbers of turn downs, and eventually become [[love-shy]] and unable to approach.
  
 
== Incelosphere ==
 
== Incelosphere ==
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==Life as an incel==
 
==Life as an incel==
Incels aren't allowed to develop, creating a list of [[Side effects of |negative symptoms]] often including [[erectile dysfunction]] and [[anorgasmia]] according to researchers at Columbia University and the New York State Psychiatric Institute's HIV Center for Clinical and Behavioral Studies.<ref>  http://web.archive.org/web/20170622044005/https://abcnews.go.com/Health/Sex/story?id=3932047 </ref> An American Journal of Public Health study found that delayed sexual activity, "creates health risks by impeding development of the emotional, cognitive, and interpersonal skills that are crucial to satisfactory sexual functioning and general well-being."<ref>https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/78bmza/the-cost-of-losing-your-virginity-late</ref>  Single [[Mancel|mancels]] (and most single [[normie]] men) are supposed to be asexual beings whenever they aren't paying a woman.  They are told that their penis is gross, cheap, and threatening, and that no one wants to look at it.  They usually aren't told that masturbation is healthy growing up and often are told it's unhealthy.  They must never speak of sexual desires around women they aren't or *are* paying unless the woman is a hooker, which is illegal.  To be incel is to be forced involuntarily into [[desexualization|public displays of asexuality]].  This may be one of the causes of exhibitionist behavior in some men, as a revolt against societies determination of most single men as asexual beings.
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Incels aren't allowed to develop, creating a list of [[Side effects of |negative symptoms]] often including [[erectile dysfunction]] and [[anorgasmia]] according to researchers at Columbia University and the New York State Psychiatric Institute's HIV Center for Clinical and Behavioral Studies.<ref>  http://web.archive.org/web/20170622044005/https://abcnews.go.com/Health/Sex/story?id=3932047 </ref> An American Journal of Public Health study found that delayed sexual activity, "creates health risks by impeding development of the emotional, cognitive, and interpersonal skills that are crucial to satisfactory sexual functioning and general well-being."<ref>https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/78bmza/the-cost-of-losing-your-virginity-late</ref>  Single [[Mancel|mancels]] (and most single [[normie]] men) are supposed to be asexual beings whenever they aren't paying a woman.  They are told that their penis is gross, cheap, and threatening and that no one wants to look at it.  They usually aren't told that masturbation is healthy growing up and often are told it's unhealthy.  They must never speak of sexual desires around women they aren't, or *are* paying unless the woman is a hooker, which is illegal.  To be incel is to be forced involuntarily into [[desexualization|public displays of asexuality]].  This may be one of the causes of exhibitionist behavior in some men, as a revolt against societies determination of most single men as asexual beings.
  
 
== Chadsplanation ==  
 
== Chadsplanation ==  
[[File:40daysand40nights.jpg|thumb|right|<center>Normies, when not lying to incels about celibacy being easy, in reality consider going even 40 days without sexual intimacy as complete savagery</center>‎]]
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[[File:40daysand40nights.jpg|thumb|right|<center>Normies, when not lying to incels about celibacy being easy, in reality, consider going even 40 days without sexual intimacy as complete savagery</center>‎]]
Since [[normie]]s, [[chad]]s, [[becky]]s, [[stacy|stacie]]s, [[tanner]]s, and [[brad]]s don't like to pair up people anymore, they tell incels it's near 100% incels own fault that they can't find a partner.  So they offer self-help "[[platitude|advice]]".  Incels are told by [[normie|normies]] that looks don't matter, but [[normie|normies]] always are curious about how ugly incels are and assume they don't take enough showers or get enough haircuts.  They tell incels to be themselves, but to pick up hobbies they don't like.  They tell incels that [[PUA|pick up artists]] are full of shit but that incels don't have enough [[PUA|'game']] to <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">date [[rape]] drunk women at bars</span> 'pick up women'. They tell incels that they are too [[nice guy|nice]] but also that they are [[asshole|assholes]].  They tell incels that sexual intimacy is not that important, but they themselves buy and/or create movies and songs about how sexual intimacy is one of the most important things in the world and they get upset if they have a few week long dry spell.  
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Since [[normie]]s, [[chad]]s, [[becky]]s, [[stacy|stacie]]s, [[tanner]]s, and [[brad]]s don't like to pair up people anymore, they tell incels it's near 100% incels own fault that they can't find a partner.  So they offer self-help "[[platitude|advice]]".  Incels are told by [[normie|normies]] that looks don't matter, but [[normie|normies]] always are curious about how ugly incels are and assume they don't take enough showers or get enough haircuts.  They tell incels to be themselves but to pick up hobbies they don't like.  They tell incels that [[PUA|pick up artists]] are full of shit but that incels don't have enough [[PUA|'game']] to <span style="text-decoration:line-through;">date [[rape]] drunk women at bars</span> 'pick up women'. They tell incels that they are too [[nice guy|nice]] but also that they are [[asshole|assholes]].  They tell incels that sexual intimacy is not that important, but they buy and create movies and songs about how sexual intimacy is one of the most important things in the world, and they get upset if they have a few week-long dry spells.  
  
They tell incels that they 'just need to get laid', and also that they 'don't need sex'.
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They tell incels that they 'just need to get laid,' and also that they 'don't need sex.'
  
 
They tell incels that sexual intimacy isn't a commodity in a game with a reward, but think of male virgins as "[[betabux|losers]]" and tell incels that they don't "deserve" intimacy due to their actions.
 
They tell incels that sexual intimacy isn't a commodity in a game with a reward, but think of male virgins as "[[betabux|losers]]" and tell incels that they don't "deserve" intimacy due to their actions.
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==Incel forums are disproportionately populated by disabled, non-neurotypical, and ethnic men==
 
==Incel forums are disproportionately populated by disabled, non-neurotypical, and ethnic men==
A poll from braincels shows that whites constitute only 28% of that forums population, with the largest racial demographic being South Asian (eg. Indian).<ref>  https://www.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/8mhyo7/results_of_the_rbraincels_race_poll</ref> The most recent poll by incels.co showed that 57% of its members were white.<ref>https://incels.co/threads/survey-results-for-may-2019.123987/#lg=_xfUid-1-1561817076&slide=0</ref>
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A poll from braincels shows that whites constitute only 28% of that forums population, with the largest racial demographic being South Asian (e.g., Indian).<ref>  https://www.reddit.com/r/Braincels/comments/8mhyo7/results_of_the_rbraincels_race_poll</ref> The most recent poll by incels.co showed that 57% of its members were white.<ref>https://incels.co/threads/survey-results-for-may-2019.123987/#lg=_xfUid-1-1561817076&slide=0</ref>
  
 
For comparison, surveys on Reddit of the general userbase tend to show 80% white users overall.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/3dct7x/why_is_reddit_so_white/</ref> Thus we can approximate that the typical Reddit population is 1.4-3.6 times more white than incel groups. Given the sections on race above, this should not be surprising.
 
For comparison, surveys on Reddit of the general userbase tend to show 80% white users overall.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/3dct7x/why_is_reddit_so_white/</ref> Thus we can approximate that the typical Reddit population is 1.4-3.6 times more white than incel groups. Given the sections on race above, this should not be surprising.
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Other characteristics of incels.co users from site surveys include:
 
Other characteristics of incels.co users from site surveys include:
  
78% report constantly suffering from extreme sadness, anxiety, and stress.
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78% report always suffering from extreme sadness, anxiety, and stress.
 
82% have considered suicide.
 
82% have considered suicide.
 
62% have considered surgery to improve their looks.
 
62% have considered surgery to improve their looks.
77% report being healthy weight or underweight (only 23% report being overweight, which is far less than the general western population average).
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77% report being a healthy weight or underweight (only 23% report being overweight, which is far less than the general western population average).
 
57% report receiving a medical diagnosis labeling them as non-neurotypical or having a physical disability that impairs their normal daily functions.
 
57% report receiving a medical diagnosis labeling them as non-neurotypical or having a physical disability that impairs their normal daily functions.
  

Revision as of 08:40, 12 July 2019

What Wikipedia thinks incels want vs. what incels actually want

Incel, is an academic sociological term that is short for and means, 'involuntary celibacy', a life circumstance. Individual philosophies like the blackpill or subcultures like 4chan culture emerge on some, but not all, forums dedicated to involuntary celibates and go in and out of fashion. Inceldom was first academically recognized as a sociological phenomenon by the Donnelly Study. The Donnelly Study defined incels as all adults who want to have a willing sexual partner of the gender that they are attracted to, but cannot find one for six months or more. This definition, however, has too many holes.

For this wiki, an incel is someone who would be rejected by the vast majority of the single members of the gender they are attracted to in spaces socially designated for dating if they tried, for at least a few years. The first lexicographer to define "incel", described it as a gender-neutral life circumstance rather than a subculture. Its unabbreviated form was coined in 1739 by Antoine Banier in his book on ancient Greek mythology.

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Incels are the vanguard of tearing down gender roles


The current non-niche incel internet forums are: incels.co, Reddit's Braincels, Facebook's Incelistan, Incelistan.net, love-shy.com, Incelswithouthate, and Foreveralone. Roughly 28% of men between the ages of 18-30 are involuntarily celibate. Self-described incels tend to be known as, "dating realists".

Shared experiences

Something most women don't do

Because the definition of incel is wonky, there are several shared experiences incels have that are worth highlighting.

Incels generally have:

  • never been propositioned or hit on
  • never been complimented in a sexual way
  • never have had sex without paying for it
  • never been on a date
  • always have been rejected

Shared beliefs

There are no shared beliefs among incels as a whole as incels are not a community, movement, etc. However for self-described incels, the only shared belief is hard determinism.

Sexual frustration vs. inceldom

Inceldom overlaps but is distinct from 'sexual frustration', in that an involuntary celibate may accept their incelibacy and not feel bad about it.

Can't an incel see a hooker?

Frequenting prostitutes or being a sugar daddy/mommy does not count as a sexual, romantic, or even social relationship, but rather a financial relationship, as the relationship remains without sex/romance/sociability, but not without money. Even if it did count as a sexual or romantic relationship, most self-identified incels cannot afford it regularly. Also, many escortcels frequently characterize prostitution as not a full sexual experience as it usually lacks sexual validation. Legalization of prostitution can mitigate the side effects of inceldom, but it does not constitute a sexual relationship.

Incels want genuine companionship.

full

Love-shy vs. incel

Love-shyness is the fear of romantic or sexual relationships. It is possible for a person to be both incel and love-shy, and most are both to some degree or another. For instance, a person could initially be incel, then suffer large numbers of turn downs, and eventually become love-shy and unable to approach.

Incelosphere

Click here for a full list of active incel forums

Life as an incel

Incels aren't allowed to develop, creating a list of negative symptoms often including erectile dysfunction and anorgasmia according to researchers at Columbia University and the New York State Psychiatric Institute's HIV Center for Clinical and Behavioral Studies.[1] An American Journal of Public Health study found that delayed sexual activity, "creates health risks by impeding development of the emotional, cognitive, and interpersonal skills that are crucial to satisfactory sexual functioning and general well-being."[2] Single mancels (and most single normie men) are supposed to be asexual beings whenever they aren't paying a woman. They are told that their penis is gross, cheap, and threatening and that no one wants to look at it. They usually aren't told that masturbation is healthy growing up and often are told it's unhealthy. They must never speak of sexual desires around women they aren't, or *are* paying unless the woman is a hooker, which is illegal. To be incel is to be forced involuntarily into public displays of asexuality. This may be one of the causes of exhibitionist behavior in some men, as a revolt against societies determination of most single men as asexual beings.

Chadsplanation

Normies, when not lying to incels about celibacy being easy, in reality, consider going even 40 days without sexual intimacy as complete savagery

Since normies, chads, beckys, stacies, tanners, and brads don't like to pair up people anymore, they tell incels it's near 100% incels own fault that they can't find a partner. So they offer self-help "advice". Incels are told by normies that looks don't matter, but normies always are curious about how ugly incels are and assume they don't take enough showers or get enough haircuts. They tell incels to be themselves but to pick up hobbies they don't like. They tell incels that pick up artists are full of shit but that incels don't have enough 'game' to date rape drunk women at bars 'pick up women'. They tell incels that they are too nice but also that they are assholes. They tell incels that sexual intimacy is not that important, but they buy and create movies and songs about how sexual intimacy is one of the most important things in the world, and they get upset if they have a few week-long dry spells.

They tell incels that they 'just need to get laid,' and also that they 'don't need sex.'

They tell incels that sexual intimacy isn't a commodity in a game with a reward, but think of male virgins as "losers" and tell incels that they don't "deserve" intimacy due to their actions.

Normies, especially feminist normies, insist that sexual freedom is a sorting mechanism for male feminists and good personalities like OJ Simpson and Jeremy Meeks, and that your local grocery store bagger deserves to be an incel because maybe he went on 4chan once or twice.

Incel forums are disproportionately populated by disabled, non-neurotypical, and ethnic men

A poll from braincels shows that whites constitute only 28% of that forums population, with the largest racial demographic being South Asian (e.g., Indian).[3] The most recent poll by incels.co showed that 57% of its members were white.[4]

For comparison, surveys on Reddit of the general userbase tend to show 80% white users overall.[5] Thus we can approximate that the typical Reddit population is 1.4-3.6 times more white than incel groups. Given the sections on race above, this should not be surprising.

Other characteristics of incels.co users from site surveys include:

78% report always suffering from extreme sadness, anxiety, and stress. 82% have considered suicide. 62% have considered surgery to improve their looks. 77% report being a healthy weight or underweight (only 23% report being overweight, which is far less than the general western population average). 57% report receiving a medical diagnosis labeling them as non-neurotypical or having a physical disability that impairs their normal daily functions.

Special Types of incels

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