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Sexual economics theory

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	* [[Demand side sexual economics]]		* [[Demand side sexual economics]]
	* [[Women As Sex Vendors (book)]]		* [[Women As Sex Vendors (book)]]
			* [[Sexual Marxism]]

	==References==		==References==
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Pussy cartel

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	The '''pussy cartel''' ~~refers~~ to ~~women's artificially inflating~~ the value of sex via price-fixing. It is relatively easy for women to artificially inflate the value of sex when they desire initiating sex less than men. Women refer to men desiring initiating sex more than women as male [[thirst]] and use the term negatively.		The '''pussy cartel''' is a form of artificial scarcity induced by women to inflate the value of sex via price-fixing. It is relatively easy for women to artificially inflate the value of sex when they desire initiating sex less than men. Women refer to men desiring initiating sex more than women as male [[thirst]] and use the term negatively.

	Sex is worth maybe $5 of women's time and effort. But women know men will go insane without sex, so they collectively deny it to men. They force most men to invest hundreds if not thousands of hours into resource security, job security, free drinks, free transportation, free housing etc just for the ''possibility'' that they will get sex.		Sex is worth maybe $5 of women's time and effort. But women know men will go insane without sex, so they collectively deny it to men. They force most men to invest hundreds if not thousands of hours into resource security, job security, free drinks, free transportation, free housing etc just for the ''possibility'' that they will get sex.

Roping

UnfortunatelyOver — Tue, 26 May 2026 01:37:37 GMT

i added more sources to read essentially, i also changed the structure a bit

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Talk:Muslimcel

UnfortunatelyOver — Tue, 26 May 2026 01:06:20 GMT

this article doesnt seem neutral at all

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its clearly written in a way as if an incel jihad is the best thing to happen to us JFL. islamic law allows chads to marry and fuck up to 4 wives at onces, totally based guys! (while also saying "hypergamy isn't being praised here" before a quote)

Phonoaesthetics

Mike — Sat, 23 May 2026 21:39:31 GMT

expansion

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Phonoaesthetics

Mike — Wed, 20 May 2026 17:49:54 GMT

much easier to cookup than i thought it would be this article was on the backburner for years tho

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Universal Adaptive Strategy Theory

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	CSR selection theory was developed to model plant ecologies, but attempts have been made at using it to model life history tradeoffs among species in general under the broader UAST framework, and directly as CSR.<ref>https://www.sciengine.com/AES/doi/10.5846/stxb202101060055</ref>		CSR selection theory was developed to model plant ecologies, but attempts have been made at using it to model life history tradeoffs among species in general under the broader UAST framework, and directly as CSR.<ref>https://www.sciengine.com/AES/doi/10.5846/stxb202101060055</ref>
			The theory separates plant species into three broad life-history strategy categories: Competitors ('''C'''): species adapted to rapid growth and monopolization of resources, Stress-Tolerators ('''S'''): plants adapted to harsh, resource limited environments, and Ruderals ('''R'''): plants adapted to invest in propagation related features (like seed production and dispersion) rather than individual plant quality.<ref>https://auf.isa-arbor.com/content/early/2025/04/10/jauf.2025.014</ref>

	Applying CSR analogically to human life-history strategies would involve the three axes representing C as resource acquisition, reflected in somatic growth, skill acquisition, and status capture; S as somatic maintenance, general resiliency under stress; and R as rapid reproduction in unfavorable/unpredictable conditions (corresponding to ruderal growth among plants).		Applying CSR analogically to human life-history strategies would involve the three axes representing C as resource acquisition, reflected in somatic growth, skill acquisition, and status capture; S as somatic maintenance, general resiliency under stress; and R as rapid reproduction in unfavorable/unpredictable conditions (corresponding to ruderal growth among plants).
	Using this analogy, ruderal cleanly overlaps with the r/fast-life strategy, and C and S overlap with proposed aspects of the slow-life or K strategy.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/329905263_Life_History_Theory</ref>		Using this analogy, ruderal cleanly overlaps with the r/fast-life strategy, and C and S overlap with proposed aspects of the slow-life or K strategy.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/329905263_Life_History_Theory</ref>
			However, the 'rapid growth' aspect of C does tie in with characteristics of a typical fast-life history strategy, such as early pubertal maturation.<ref>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10960661/</ref>

	Thus, it seems to main difference in applying CSR to human life-history strategies would involve splitting the slow-life/K factor into two axes of somatic growth vs. maintenance.		Thus, it seems to main difference in applying CSR to human life-history strategies would involve splitting the slow-life/K factor into two axes of somatic growth vs. maintenance.

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Dominance hierarchy

Altmark22 — Wed, 20 May 2026 03:53:29 GMT

Viewing Male Requirements from the eyes of Male Hierarchy

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	For simplicity, all non-alpha animals are often called betas. Dominance does not necessarily mean aggression, but simply superiority.		For simplicity, all non-alpha animals are often called betas. Dominance does not necessarily mean aggression, but simply superiority.

	Aggressive dominance is linked to a fast [[life history]] strategy, while non-aggressive dominance can be regarded as a slow life history strategy. Human dominance hierarchies tend toward the latter due to [[neoteny]] and a high prevalence of [[arranged marriage]] rather than free mate choice which have likely resulted from [[wikipedia:Self-domestication\|self-domestication]].		Aggressive dominance is linked to a fast [[life history]] strategy, while non-aggressive dominance (prestige) can be regarded as a slow life history strategy. Human dominance hierarchies tend toward the latter due to [[neoteny]] and a high prevalence of [[arranged marriage]] rather than free mate choice which have likely resulted from [[wikipedia:Self-domestication\|self-domestication]].
	For human [[Men\|males]], there is a link between social dominance and [[reproductive success]]. This link is, however, much weaker than in closely related nonhuman primates (r = .19 vs r = .8).<ref>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27601650/</ref>
			For human [[Men\|males]], there is a link between social dominance and [[reproductive success]]. This link is, however, much weaker than in closely related nonhuman primates (r = .19 vs r = .8).<ref>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27601650/</ref> The link between dominance and male [[Mating Success\|sexual access]] may be much stronger, with one study finding 62% of the variance in men's copulation frequency was explained by a composite status measure.<ref>https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/behavioral-and-brain-sciences/article/abs/cultural-and-reproductive-success-in-industrial-societies-testing-the-relationship-at-the-proximate-and-ultimate-levels/F4BC3086E2AF8ED56FE0AB88E173E97F</ref>

	== Manosphere ==		== Manosphere ==
	The idea of an overall, necessary, mostly fixed, and possibly genetic sociosexual hierarchy in humans has been mainly promoted seriously by various traditionalists such as [[Vox Day]] and [[Jordan Peterson]] and thus has had influence on the [[manosphere]] as [[Traditionalist conservatism\|traditionalists]] entered the manosphere in the 2010s. The modern mainstream concept of a genetic, inevitable, necessary, or extremely fixed sociosexual hierarchy was also inspired by more mainstream media/literature and [[PUA\|pick-up-artistry]] which was in turn inspired by scientist [[David Mech\|David Mech's]] concept of an 'alpha wolf', which David later retracted.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20151023133410/http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2014/sep/24/my-bad-alpha-wolf-term-outmoded/</ref><ref>Scientist David Mech addresses readers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNtFgdwTsbU</ref>		The idea of an overall, necessary, mostly fixed, and possibly genetic sociosexual hierarchy in humans has been mainly promoted seriously by various traditionalists such as [[Vox Day]] and [[Jordan Peterson]] and thus has had influence on the [[manosphere]] as [[Traditionalist conservatism\|traditionalists]] entered the manosphere in the 2010s. The modern mainstream concept of a genetic, inevitable, necessary, or extremely fixed sociosexual hierarchy was also inspired by more mainstream media/literature and [[PUA\|pick-up-artistry]] which was in turn inspired by scientist [[David Mech\|David Mech's]] concept of an 'alpha wolf', which David later retracted.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20151023133410/http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/outdoors/2014/sep/24/my-bad-alpha-wolf-term-outmoded/</ref><ref>Scientist David Mech addresses readers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNtFgdwTsbU</ref>
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	Males who are totally unsuccessful with women are Omega males. They are often socially excluded and hence never get laid.		Males who are totally unsuccessful with women are Omega males. They are often socially excluded and hence never get laid.
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	=== Issues with the Tripartite Model ===		=== Issues with the Tripartite Model ===
	# It is hard to quantify the body type of a person without adequate measure indices, and even more impossible to validate it without clustering populations		# It is hard to quantify the body type of a person without adequate measure indices, and even more impossible to validate it without clustering populations

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Life history theory

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	*[[Dark triad]]		*[[Dark triad]]
	*[[Whore]]		*[[Whore]]

Universal Adaptive Strategy Theory

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	#Is this why male Millennials are becoming more [[Chadsexual]] ([[Zyzz]] idolization, "post physique")?		#Is this why male Millennials are becoming more [[Chadsexual]] ([[Zyzz]] idolization, "post physique")?
	#Is this why Zoomers are feminized (as E-Boys and Femboys) beyond repair, and are more likely to be "Fashy"?		#Is this why Zoomers are feminized (as E-Boys and Femboys) beyond repair, and are more likely to be "Fashy"?

			==References==
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			==See also==
			*[[Evolution]]
			*[[Life history theory]]

Universal Adaptive Strategy Theory

Altmark22 — Wed, 20 May 2026 03:32:53 GMT

Created page with "'''Universal Adaptive Strategy Theory''' is an evolutionary theory developed by J. Philip Grime in collaboration with Simon Pierce describing the evolutionary and ecological change life history theory trade-offs that organisms face when the resources they gain from the environment are allocated to either growth, maintenance or regeneration. CSR theory is a specific application of this theory to plant communities and microorganisms.<ref>https://www.nature..."

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'''Universal Adaptive Strategy Theory''' is an evolutionary theory developed by J. Philip Grime in collaboration with Simon Pierce describing the evolutionary and ecological change [[life history|life history theory]] trade-offs that organisms face when the resources they gain from the environment are allocated to either growth, maintenance or regeneration. CSR theory is a specific application of this theory to plant communities and microorganisms.<ref>https://www.nature.com/articles/s41396-023-01486-x</ref>

CSR selection theory was developed to model plant ecologies, but attempts have been made at using it to model life history tradeoffs among species in general under the broader UAST framework, and directly as CSR.<ref>https://www.sciengine.com/AES/doi/10.5846/stxb202101060055</ref>

Applying CSR analogically to human life-history strategies would involve the three axes representing C as resource acquisition, reflected in somatic growth, skill acquisition, and status capture; S as somatic maintenance, general resiliency under stress; and R as rapid reproduction in unfavorable/unpredictable conditions (corresponding to ruderal growth among plants).
Using this analogy, ruderal cleanly overlaps with the r/fast-life strategy, and C and S overlap with proposed aspects of the slow-life or K strategy.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/329905263_Life_History_Theory</ref>

Thus, it seems to main difference in applying CSR to human life-history strategies would involve splitting the slow-life/K factor into two axes of somatic growth vs. maintenance.
The rest of this article attempts to apply CSR-selection theory to human behavior in a highly speculative manner.

===Resolving r/K selection and experimental deviations===
r/K selection theory did not answer some problems regarding reproduction. Firstly, it does not deal with [[Behavioral sink]] and its differentiation between monogamy and hypergamous single motherhood, as environmental stability and parenting effort are not necessarily aligned. Secondly, proponents of r/K-selection theory would often place the sexually promiscuous with receptive [[Homosexuality|homosexuals]], when in fact the biomarkers for receptive [[Homosexuality|homosexuals]]<ref><nowiki>https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-021-87338-0</nowiki></ref> are the same biomarkers for strict [[monogamy]] conformists<ref><nowiki>https://doi.org/10.1098/rsbl.2014.0977</nowiki></ref>, "beliefs in superstition" (which is a stand-in for religious fundamentalism)<ref>https://doi.org<nowiki/>/10.1016/j.paid.2009.01.051</ref> and verbal [[IQ]]<ref><nowiki>https://doi.org/10.1016/j.paid.2005.03.016</nowiki></ref>, which matches up the silhouette of K-selected social conservatives. Inversely, the biomarker that predicts masculinity also predicts greed<ref><nowiki>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886909001214</nowiki></ref>, law-breaking<ref>https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnbeh.2017.00254/full</ref>, preference of feminism<ref><nowiki>https://doi.org/10.3389/fpsyg.2014.01011</nowiki></ref> and child sexual abuse<ref>https://www.nature.com/articles/s41398-018-0326-0</ref>, which matches up the silhouette of r-selected "upper class liberals".
===Introduction to CSR-selection===
One way to resolve this problem, is with the CSR-selection theory<ref name=":2">https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-42562-7</ref> (also known as Universal Adaptive Strategy Theory) by [https://www.wikiwand.com/en/J._Philip_Grime John Philip Grime], later elaborated upon by [https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Kirk_Winemiller Kirk Winemiller] and K.A. Rose. It is composed of three forms of mating: Ruderal (characterized by environmental scarcity with necessity towards parental security), Competitive (characterized by environmental and parental stability), and Stress-Tolerant (characterized by lack of parental effort in a safe environment). Some have since added a new form of mating called "Salmonid" (complete dissolution of environmental security and parenting effort) mirroring life history theories in fish ecology <ref>https://cdnsciencepub.com/doi/abs/10.1139/f97-026?journalCode=cjfas</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0165783618303606</ref> to represent those that are diametrically opposed to Competitive strategy, whilst being between Ruderal and Stress-Tolerant strategies.
Principled Components has been identified that easily divides r/K-selection and Life History theory into two axes<ref>https://doi.org/10.1038/s41559-019-0938-7</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S109051382030060X</ref>:
*Spread of Reproduction (Sexual Distribution) vs Distribution of Mortality Risk (Distribution of Deaths), which is analogue to Opportunistic and Periodic (Equality) vs Equilibrium and Salmonid (Inequality)
* Fertility, Life Expectancy and Generation Time (Slower Existential Life) vs Mean Sexual Reproductive Rate (Faster Sexual Mating Life), which is analogue to Periodic and Equilibrium (Cohesion) vs Salmonid and Opportunistic (Instability)
The Four Major Forms of Selectivity:
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*'''Opportunistic''': Those that believe in competitive polygamy and radical patriarchy, and has earlier sexual maturity rate. Their childhoods often has male scarcity, and are unitarily chaotic (side effect of feminism). They respond by increasing male supply to compensate (which birth order can effect sibling sex ratios, also leads to more resource redistribution), and exploring new possibilities.
*'''Periodic''': Those that believe in gynocentric monogamy, and has high fertility. Their childhoods often has scarcity of males and resources, and the environment are often fluctuating and unpredictable (side effect of "third wave" post-modern feminism and insurrection). They respond by restoring resource abundance (resources correlates to fertility and social cohesion), and reduce the unpredictability of the environment.
*'''Equilibrium''': Those that believe in hypergamy and "second wave" feminism, and has high survival rate. Their childhood often has resource scarcity but not necessarily male scarcity, and the environment is often seasonal and predictable (side effect of entrepreneurship). They respond by inducing male scarcity (which in some case can reduce social instability, also reflated to increasing economic freedom), and creating environment monocultures.
*'''Salmonid''': Those that believe in "sexual uprising" and atomization, e.g. "third wave" feminism, post-modernism, and insurrectionism, and has high mortality rate. Their childhood often lacks scarcity, and the environment are often homogenous and constant (side effect of industriousness). They often manufacture resource scarcity and chaos (through social polarization) to "get even".
===Application to human mating and quantification ala [[Turd Flinging Monkey|TFM]]===
This theory can be applied to human mating as well, as observed by [[Turd Flinging Monkey|TFM]]
His hypothesis matched Ruderal strategy with hard/traditionalist patriarchy/individualism and polygamy, Competitive strategy with soft/gynocentric/feministic patriarchy/individualism and monogamy, and Stress-Tolerant strategy with collectivist feminism, hypergamy and single motherhood. To extend this theory to Salmonid strategy, it can be associated to chaotic mating and "traditionalist collectivism".

To extend each mating strategy with quantifiable metrics
*'''Ruderal''' strategy would correlate to lower age at marriage
*'''Competitive''' strategy would correlate to high net fertility rate
*'''Stress-Tolerant''' strategy would correlate to low infant mortality
And modeling each transition (borrowed from Ages of Discord by Peter Turchin<ref>https://peterturchin.com/ages-of-discord</ref>)
* '''Ruderal-to-Competitive''' transition (or social absolutism) can be quantified by high social cohesion and political velocity
*'''Competitive-to-Stress-Tolerant''' transition (or increase in individualism) to be quantified by high capital-income deviation or Gini/Theil index
*'''Salmonid''' transition ("leftism" and social collapse) as low income-to-GDP
A major critique of this theory is based on refuting the idea of the "cyclical theory of history", and that Peter Turchin has critiqued Strauss-Howe Generational Theory as its inability to be definitive, and instead proposed his own theory based on regulating or "negative" feedback loops.
A secondary critique of this theory is that the indices listed above has no quantitative measure on whether one prefer monogamy over polygamy or hypergamy as a mating strategy. Mating effort vs parental effort is a hotly debated subject, as currently there are only "lifetime sexual partner count" and "age of first intercourse" which can be heavily misreported<ref>https://gss.norc.org/Documents/reports/methodological-reports/MR068.pdf</ref>, and subjective preference indices e.g. Relationship Orientation Questionnaire (Schwarz & Hassebrauck), Sociosexual Orientation Inventory (Simpson & Gangestad), Sex Drive (Ostovich & Sabini), Social Desirability Scale (Marlowe & Crowne), and Mating Effort Scale and Parenting Effort Scale (Kruger).
===Other Coincidental Relationship===
====Faith====
Competitive strategist propensity towards cults<ref>https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/6E5meTmEiEQXqKmBt/the-cult-deficit-analysis-and-speculation</ref> and faith<ref>https://archive.fo<nowiki/>/F5StT</ref> (contrast to the lack of it in Salmonid strategists). Within OkCupid<ref name=":0">https://www.gwern.net/docs/psychology/okcupid/howracesandreligionsmatchinonlinedating.html</ref>, there are some strong patterns: strong homophily between non-religious, Buddhists, and Jews, but weaker for Agnostics and Jews; Muslims being generally unpreferred; Hindu males being unpreferred, but less so for Hindu females; Jewish males being universally preferred; Christian homophily, but weaker for Catholics when compared to Protestants. Catholics, Agnostics and Jews in general have faster life-history compared to Protestants, staunch atheists and Buddhists, as the former are historically more war-heavy whilst the latter is more commerce-heavy. Lack of religious fundamentalism also leads to more matches<ref name=":0" />. According to IFS<ref>https://ifstudies.org/blog/sex-ratios-in-the-pews-is-there-really-a-deficit-of-men-in-american-churches</ref>, Catholics are more male-dominant than Protestants, and Jews are more male-dominant than Buddhists. Also, Muslims are male dominant, whilst Hindus are more female dominant. From this we can safely assume three factors: the more masculine a denomination is, the more heterophilic it becomes towards the faith; non-Abrahamic homophily are stronger than Abrahamic homophily; hyper-masculinized religions receive radically diverging matches base on ethnic SES differences (Jews vs Muslims), whilst hyper-feminized religions has the largest dating gaps between males and females.
====Politics and Hobbies====
Competitive strategist sees education and wealth as the same thing<ref>https://wid.world/document/brahmin-left-versus-merchant-right-changing-political-cleavages-in-21-western-democracies-1948-2020-world-inequality-lab-wp-2021-15/</ref> (compared to Stress-Tolerant strategists who disregards education, and Salmonid strategists who sees them as polar opposites). According to OkCupid data<ref name=":1">https://theblog.okcupid.com/the-democrats-are-doomed-or-how-a-big-tent-can-be-too-big-fdc9bf8be312</ref>, Competitive strategists are the most preferred in dating, and Stress-Tolerant strategists are the least preferred (with Salmonid being slightly better than Ruderal). There are word use differences between the US Political Axes<ref>https://www.globaldatinginsights.com/news/using-dating-profile-words-can-reveal-personal-politics/</ref>: those that are sex-heavy are mor likely to tout words related to the military and hunting (Republican), drug use and social justice (Democrat); whilst those that are love-heavy are more likely to talk about faith and family (Republican), intellectualism and relaxation (Democrat).
===Defining factors of proving or disproving this theory===
#Recognize that the Alpha-Beta-Omega trifecta (or ChildNeedsFather<ref>https://childneedsfather.com/alpha-beta-gamma-delta-omega-sigma-personality</ref> Sigma-Alpha-Beta and Gamma-Delta-Omega) can be mapped to the CSR-Selection theory
# Mating strategy can be compared with Lover-Provider-Friend strategies by ThePowerMoves<ref>https://thepowermoves.com/lover-provider-friend-dating-strategies/</ref> and the three circles of PSILoveYou<ref>https://psiloveyou.xyz/nice-guys-incels-a-visual-representation-7dd8d5f27d01</ref>
#Being able to pair up mating/parenting effort and preference with data on reproductive strategies and socio-political beliefs e.g. Right-Wing Authoritarianism (Altemeyer), Social Dominance Orientation (Pratto, Sidanius, Stallworth, & Malle), Identification With All Humanity Scale (McFarland, Webb & Brown), Dominance-Prestige Scales (Cheng, Tracy & Henrich), Schwartz Value Survey and Portrait Values Questionnaire (Schwartz), Unified Motive Scales (Schönbrodt), Personal Value Questionnaire (McClelland), Leadership Descriptors (Ehrhart & Klein), Values Survey Module (Hofstede)
===CSR Theory and [[Turd Flinging Monkey|TFM]] Cycles===
{| class="wikitable"
!Life History!!Opportunistic/Ruderal!!Periodic/Competitive!!Equilibrium/Stress-Tolerant!!Salmonid
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|Selection Pressure<ref name=":2" />||Predation||Weak||Scarcity|| Convergent
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|Modern Stages|| Traditionalist Patriarchy||Gynocentric Patriarchy||[[Feminism]]
|Atomization
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|Sexual Skew||Feminine||Convergent||Masculine||Divergent
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|Governing Principle||Individualist/Subjective Traditionalism
|Individualist/Subjective Feminism||Collective/Objective Feminism||Collective/Objective Traditionalism
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|Childhood Scarcity by [[Turd Flinging Monkey|TFM]]||Complete Scarcity||Resource Scarcity||Lack of Scarcity||Male Scarcity
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|Ending Cause into Adulthood||Seasonal Environment
Cultural Norms (High)
|Constant Environment
Loss of Fear (Awakening)
|Unpredictable Environment
Societal Collapse (Unraveling)
|Social Restructuring
(Crisis)
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|Adulthood Scarcity and
Female Mating Strategy
|Resource Scarcity (Male Overabundance)
Competitive Polyamory
|Lack of Scarcity (Comfort)
Monogamy
|Male Scarcity (Economic High)
Hypergamy and Single Motherhood
|Complete Scarcity (Struggle)
"Sexual Uprising"
|-
|Social Characteristics of Adult Females
|Hyper-Feminine Artist
Spinster Nomad's Parent/Child
|Gender Neutral Prophet
Hero's Parent/Child
|Hyper-Masculine Nomad
TradWife Artist's Parent/Child
|High Variance Hero
Prophet's Parent/Child
|-
|Adult Mating Counter-Pattern||[[Polygamy|80-20 Rule]] and mass inceldom||[[Dual mating strategy|Dual Mating Strategy]] and [[Beta Orbiter]]||[[Oral Contraception]] and Sexual [[Role Reversal]] (incl. [[Femdom]])
|[[Femcel|Female Vocel]] and Male [[Chadsexual]]
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|Offspring Defining Trait||Maturation Rate
e.g. Gen X Individualism
|Fertility Rate
e.g. Post-war Millenial Nutrition
|Survival Rate
e.g. Monster Parenting on Zoomers
|Mortality Rate
e.g. what caused the Baby Booms
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|Priority||Reproduction ||Survival||Complacency||(NONE)
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|[[Ethnic Theory of Attraction|Lewis Model]]||Reactive
Asia Pacific & India
|Multiactive
Slavs, Latins & MENA
|Linear Active
WEU and Anglos
|Anti-Multiactive
High IQ "Atlantis"
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|[[Feminism]]||Metamodern 4th Wave & Anti-Feminism
|Pre-Feminism 1st Wave||Modern 2nd Wave||Post-Modern 3rd Wave
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|Example Generations
|Silent or Generation Z
|Baby Boomers
| Generation X
|GI Generation or Millenials
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|Generational Binary Divide<ref>https://wid.world/document/brahmin-left-versus-merchant-right-changing-political-cleavages-in-21-western-democracies-1948-2020-world-inequality-lab-wp-2021-15/</ref>
|Purely Education Divide
|Haves vs Have-nots
|Purely Income Divide
|Education v Income
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|Schwartz Model<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18175471</ref><ref>https://doi.org<nowiki/>/10.1287/orsc.1030.0048</ref>||Conservation ||Transcendence||Openness||Self-Enhancement
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|Core Schwartz||Conformity (Tradition)||Universalism||Stimulation (Hedonism)||Power
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|Peripheral Schwartz||Security||Benevolence||Self-Direction||Achievement
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|Philosophy||Horney/Fromm (Safety & Security)||Jung (Higher Meaning)||Freud/Erikson (Pleasure)||Adler (Will-to-Power)
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| Core Representation||Right Wing Authoritarianism||Light Triad and Identification With All Humanity||Dark Triad ||Vulnerable Dark Triad and Social Dominance Orientation
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|Alignment||Lawful or High Binding (Anti-Villain)||Good or High Individualizing (Hero)||Chaotic or Low Binding (Anti-Hero)||Evil or Low Individualizing (Villain)
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|OkCupid Politics<ref name=":1" />
|Authoritarian
|"US Republican"
|"US Democrat"
|Libertarian
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|Alternative||Feminine Eros ||Higher Logos||Masculine Thymos||Thanatos
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|Leadership Desire<ref>https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s10869-019-09671-6.pdf</ref><ref>https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/performance-values-matrix-adrian-boothman-jp</ref>||Relational - Manage & Move||Platonic - Praise & Raise ||Charismatic - Fire Fast||Task-Oriented - Remediate & Separate
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===Strauss-Howe Analogue to the CSR Theory===
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!Strauss-Howe Analogue!!Artist !!Prophet!! Nomad!!Hero
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|Reputation As Child||placid||spirited ||bad||good
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|Coming of Age||unfulfilling ||sanctifying||alienating||empowering
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|Primary Focus Coming of Age||inter-dependency||inner-world||self-sufficiency||outer-world
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|Young Adulthood||improving||reflecting ||competing||building
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|Transition in Midlife||conformist to experimental||detached to judgmental|| frenetic to exhausted ||energetic to hubristic
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|Leadership Style Entering Elderhood||pluralistic, indecisive||righteous, austere||solitary, pragmatic||collegial, expansive
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|Reputation as Elder||sensitive|| wise||tough||powerful
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|Treatment as Elder||liked||respected||abandoned ||rewarded
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|How it is Nurtured||overprotective||relaxing||under-protective||tightening
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| How it Nurtures||under-protective|| tightening
|overprotective||relaxing
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|Positive Reputation||caring, open-minded, expert||principled, resolute, creative|| savvy, practical, perceptive||selfless, rational, competent
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=== Correlation with the Racepill and Ethnic Theory of Attraction ===
See [[Ethnic Theory of Attraction]], [[Ethnicel]] and [[Racepill]] for more information.
===Questions for the reader===
#Is this why Boomers are more likely to use inceldom and joblessness as an insult?
#Is this why r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/</ref> are filled with Generation X feminist women?
#Is this why male Millennials are becoming more [[Chadsexual]] ([[Zyzz]] idolization, "post physique")?
#Is this why Zoomers are feminized (as E-Boys and Femboys) beyond repair, and are more likely to be "Fashy"?

Life history theory

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Deincelization

185.111.175.123 — Tue, 19 May 2026 00:41:18 GMT

Solutions to inceldom

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	* [[SEAmaxx\|SEAmaxxing]]		* [[SEAmaxx\|SEAmaxxing]]

	===~~Other~~===		===Curing loneliness aspect===
	* [[Bridenapping]]		* [[Bridenapping]] (cures loneliness by giving sub-5 males access to a wife)
	* [[Genecraft]]		* [[Genecraft]] (cures loneliness by making women receptive to sub-5 males)
	* [[Governmentsgetgirlfriends]]		* [[Governmentsgetgirlfriends]] (cures loneliness via access to government funded girlfriends for sub-5 males)
	* [[Netherlands government's model for combatting inceldom]]		* [[AI girlfriends]] (cures loneliness via virtual reality girlfriends for sub-5 males)

			===Curing sexual frustration aspect===
			* [[Netherlands government's model for combatting inceldom]] (cures sexual frustration (inceldom) by increasing access to sex workers to sub-5 males)
			* [[Antaphrodsiac]] (cures sexual frustration (inceldom) by reducing libido in sub-5 males)
			* [[Sexbots]] (cures sexual frustration (inceldom) by giving sub-5 males access to sex)

	==Ascension in the PSL community==		==Ascension in the PSL community==

Chang

2803:6320:42:8BD4:99E5:DC13:8160:4201 — Tue, 19 May 2026 00:41:06 GMT

Examples: More examples.

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Silverfox

Mike — Mon, 18 May 2026 06:38:45 GMT

The reality check

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	This is not an argument against investing in the conditions that produce favorable aging — hair retention, skin quality, eyebrow and lash maintenance, physical conditioning — which remain the highest return anti-aging investments available given the evidence reviewed throughout this article. It is an argument for honest calibration of expectations: the Silverfox archetype is real, empirically documented, and represents a genuinely superior aging outcome — but it is an outlier trajectory available to a small minority of men, not a general prescription for male aging that most men can access through grooming and presentation choices alone.		This is not an argument against investing in the conditions that produce favorable aging — hair retention, skin quality, eyebrow and lash maintenance, physical conditioning — which remain the highest return anti-aging investments available given the evidence reviewed throughout this article. It is an argument for honest calibration of expectations: the Silverfox archetype is real, empirically documented, and represents a genuinely superior aging outcome — but it is an outlier trajectory available to a small minority of men, not a general prescription for male aging that most men can access through grooming and presentation choices alone.

			A 2026 study published in the APA PsycNet database examining younger and middle-aged adults' attitudes toward older adult targets who felt younger than their chronological age found a significant backlash effect.<ref>https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2027-66386-001</ref> Across two studies, older targets who felt and presented as younger than their chronological age were perceived as violating prescriptive age stereotypes — the implicit social expectation that older adults should act their age — which in turn decreased ratings of those targets' warmth, competence, and likeability, and reduced younger and middle-aged perceivers' willingness to interact with them. Perceptions of counter-stereotypical behavior mediated the relationship between felt younger age and negative evaluations, consistent with affordance management theory — older adults who defy age-based stereotypicality are appraised as a threat to younger perceivers' social and economic goals, triggering backlash rather than admiration.

			The backlash is not merely about norm violation in the abstract — it is a social competition response. A 50 or 55 year old Silverfox who is genuinely sexually viable and actively competing in the same dating market as men in their 20s and 30s represents a direct threat to younger rivals' [[reproductive success]]. He is, a fast life history plus male whose extended biological runway puts him in direct competition with younger men for the same fertile women. The backlash from younger perceivers is therefore not irrational norm policing — it is a coalitional response to a genuine competitive threat. Younger men have a fitness interest in the social marginalization of older men who remain sexually viable, and the prescriptive stereotype that older adults should act their age functions partly as a mechanism for enforcing that marginalization.

			This reframing produces a clear hierarchy of backlash risk across the three windows. Chuando Tan at 60 looking genuinely in his 20s faces the least backlash of any case — because his perceived age is congruent with his presentation and social behavior. He is not violating the prescriptive stereotype of a young man because he reads as a young man. The social competition threat he represents is real but is not legible as stereotype violation because the age signal that would trigger the backlash mechanism is absent. He socially fits. The backlash mechanism requires the target to be identifiable as old while behaving young — Tan is not identifiable as old.

			A 50 year old Silverfox with full silver beard, suave persona, and distinguished luxury presentation is in the most precarious position. He is visibly not young — the silver hair and beard make his age legible — but his presentation, behavior, and sexual viability signal continued fast life history competition that younger perceivers read as threatening and norm-violating simultaneously. He is treading on thin ice in social interaction with young people even when his presentation is as congruent as the Silverfox archetype allows. The distinguished framing mitigates the backlash relative to a 50 year old in a backwards cap, but does not eliminate it — because the competitive threat to younger males is real regardless of how tastefully it is packaged.

			A 65 year old man who looks 65 faces the most backlash of the visible-age cases if he attempts any form of continued young sexual market participation — because the gap between his biological signal and his behavioral presentation is maximally large, and the competitive threat he represents is maximally incongruent with what younger perceivers' threat-detection expects from a man his age. He would need to essentially withdraw from youthful sexual market competition entirely to avoid the backlash mechanism, which is of course what most men in this position do.
			The practical implication for the Silverfox candidate is that the social framing documented throughout this article — age-congruent distinguished presentation, suave player framing rather than youth mimicry — partially mitigates but does not eliminate the backlash risk from younger perceivers. The mitigation works by making the presentation read as authentic fast life history continuation rather than as desperate stereotype violation, which reduces the norm-violation component of the backlash. But the competitive threat component — the reproductive jealousy of younger males whose mating opportunities are being encroached upon by a man who "should" have aged out — is structural and cannot be fully neutralized by presentation choices. A 55 year old silver-bearded man in a velvet blazer successfully attracting the 28 year old woman that a 30 year old is also pursuing — will generate the backlash the study documents regardless of how distinguished his presentation is.

	==References==		==References==
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Aesthetics Waiting

Mike — Sun, 17 May 2026 22:24:19 GMT

Limitations of youthful appearance maximization

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	== Limitations of youthful appearance maximization ==		== Limitations of youthful appearance maximization ==
	A largely undiscussed constraint in both looksmaxxing and longevity intervention spaces concerns the periorbital skin — the thin integument directly overlying the orbital region. As ~~of 2025~~, ~~no topical~~, ~~laser~~, ~~or chemical peel intervention has demonstrated reliable capacity to reverse~~ the ~~chronological age of this specific tissue~~, ~~meaning~~ that ~~while the broader face can be substantially rejuvenated through available interventions~~, the ~~periorbital region remains a biometric anchor~~ to ~~chronological age that current technology cannot breach~~. Contact lenses with thick limbal rings and constricted pupils can modify the appearance of the eyes themselves, but the surrounding skin remains outside the reach of current anti-aging protocols. Whether this produces an uncanny valley effect in practitioners who have rejuvenated the surrounding facial tissue while leaving the periorbital region chronologically appropriate remains an open empirical question. This periorbital ceiling is however merely symptomatic of a deeper explanatory problem that the case of Singaporean photographer and model Chuando Tan illustrates with unusual clarity. Tan, born in 1966, has been extensively documented among female online communities for appearing to be approximately approximately in his 20s at the age of sixty, with this appearance extending beyond the face to encompass body skin and head hair — areas that present distinct aging challenges from different tissue substrates and that cannot plausibly be explained by any single localized mechanism.		A largely undiscussed constraint in both looksmaxxing and longevity intervention spaces concerns the periorbital skin — the thin integument directly overlying the orbital region (put simply the skin directly over the eyes). As noted in the [[silverfox]] article, many and most skincare enthusiasts actively avoid putting anti aging creams and serums on the skin directly over the eye, believing it will lead to bad health outcomes and or ruin their vision, despite the fact the studies, data and literature on the fact states that idea is overwhelmingly false, and that the eye area is most prone to aging thus need the serums the most. Contact lenses with thick limbal rings and constricted pupils can modify the appearance of the eyes themselves, to give a younger appearance as well. This periorbital ceiling is however merely symptomatic of a deeper explanatory problem that the case of Singaporean photographer and model Chuando Tan illustrates with unusual clarity. Tan, born in 1966, has been extensively documented among female online communities for appearing to be approximately approximately in his 20s at the age of sixty, with this appearance extending beyond the face to encompass body skin and head hair — areas that present distinct aging challenges from different tissue substrates and that cannot plausibly be explained by any single localized mechanism.
	=== Elimination of conventional hypotheses ===		=== Elimination of conventional hypotheses ===
	A systematic evaluation of available explanatory frameworks reveals that each is individually insufficient and that their combination does not resolve the problem. Genetic inheritance is ruled out by the familial pattern. Tan's two brothers have publicly available photographs and present normal age-appropriate appearances. His parents similarly aged normally. No familial pattern of exceptional youthful appearance is observable, making straightforwardly inherited genetic fortune an insufficient explanation. De novo mutations — arising spontaneously in a single individual without being inherited from either parent and without being passed to siblings — remains theoretically possible and is not ruled out by the family pattern. Notably, Tan does not physically resemble his father while one brother does, a pattern consistent with a de novo genetic event rather than standard Mendelian inheritance. The family of ridiculously handsome men often not resembling the handsome men, is noted anecdotally to be extremely common thus cuckholdry as an explanation is likely untrue as well. Optimization and intervention is also ruled out by documented behavior. Tan does not follow a documented biohacking protocol, does not undergo phenol peels or laser resurfacing, and has stated in interviews that his habits are unremarkable — regular exercise, adequate hydration, no smoking or alcohol. Bryan Johnson, who has invested multiple hundreds of millions of dollars into comprehensive biomarker optimization with access to the best available interventional science, presents the appearance of a middle-aged man of average attractiveness, or worse, uncanny looking. If systematic optimization cannot produce Tan's results, intervention is not the explanation.		A systematic evaluation of available explanatory frameworks reveals that each is individually insufficient and that their combination does not resolve the problem. Genetic inheritance is ruled out by the familial pattern. Tan's two brothers have publicly available photographs and present normal age-appropriate appearances. His parents similarly aged normally. No familial pattern of exceptional youthful appearance is observable, making straightforwardly inherited genetic fortune an insufficient explanation. De novo mutations — arising spontaneously in a single individual without being inherited from either parent and without being passed to siblings — remains theoretically possible and is not ruled out by the family pattern. Notably, Tan does not physically resemble his father while one brother does, a pattern consistent with a de novo genetic event rather than standard Mendelian inheritance. The family of ridiculously handsome men often not resembling the handsome men, is noted anecdotally to be extremely common thus cuckholdry as an explanation is likely untrue as well. Optimization and intervention is also ruled out by documented behavior. Tan does not follow a documented biohacking protocol, does not undergo phenol peels or laser resurfacing, and has stated in interviews that his habits are unremarkable — regular exercise, adequate hydration, no smoking or alcohol. Bryan Johnson, who has invested multiple hundreds of millions of dollars into comprehensive biomarker optimization with access to the best available interventional science, presents the appearance of a middle-aged man of average attractiveness, or worse, uncanny looking. If systematic optimization cannot produce Tan's results, intervention is not the explanation.

Silverfox

Mike — Sun, 17 May 2026 22:12:47 GMT

anti aging serum safe to use on periorbital eye area generally

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	=== TCA peels and tretinoin synergy ===		=== TCA peels and tretinoin synergy ===
	Trichloroacetic acid peels at medium concentration represent a complementary intervention to tretinoin with a distinct and non-overlapping mechanism of action. Tretinoin works through retinoic acid receptor activation driving accelerated cell turnover, collagen synthesis stimulation, and inhibition of collagen-degrading matrix metalloproteinases — a receptor-mediated gene expression modulation mechanism. TCA peels work through controlled protein coagulation causing epidermal and superficial dermal injury that triggers a wound healing response, new collagen deposition, and epidermal regeneration — a controlled injury-repair mechanism. Standard dermatologist recommendation for TCA peels is approximately two per year. The genuine mechanistic distinction between these two interventions makes combination protocols clinically plausible — one modulates gene expression continuously while the other periodically triggers acute repair responses. Whether the combination produces additive or superadditive results relative to either intervention alone has not been directly tested in a controlled trial in the published literature as of this writing, making it a speculative but mechanistically reasonable hypothesis rather than an evidence-based recommendation. In practice tretinoin should be paused before a TCA peel to reduce barrier disruption and unpredictable peel depth, with resumption after full skin recovery.		Trichloroacetic acid peels at medium concentration represent a complementary intervention to tretinoin with a distinct and non-overlapping mechanism of action. Tretinoin works through retinoic acid receptor activation driving accelerated cell turnover, collagen synthesis stimulation, and inhibition of collagen-degrading matrix metalloproteinases — a receptor-mediated gene expression modulation mechanism. TCA peels work through controlled protein coagulation causing epidermal and superficial dermal injury that triggers a wound healing response, new collagen deposition, and epidermal regeneration — a controlled injury-repair mechanism. Standard dermatologist recommendation for TCA peels is approximately two per year. The genuine mechanistic distinction between these two interventions makes combination protocols clinically plausible — one modulates gene expression continuously while the other periodically triggers acute repair responses. Whether the combination produces additive or superadditive results relative to either intervention alone has not been directly tested in a controlled trial in the published literature as of this writing, making it a speculative but mechanistically reasonable hypothesis rather than an evidence-based recommendation. In practice tretinoin should be paused before a TCA peel to reduce barrier disruption and unpredictable peel depth, with resumption after full skin recovery.
	=== ~~Vitamin C 15% and tretinoin face combo synergy~~ ===		=== Tretinoin facial application: full coverage including the periorbital region (skin directly over the eye) ===
	Topical vitamin C at 15% L-ascorbic acid and tretinoin are compatible as a combination protocol but require morning and nightly sequencing rather than simultaneous application. The incompatibility of simultaneous application is chemical rather than biological — 15% L-ascorbic acid is most stable and effective at a low pH of approximately 2.5 to 3.5, while tretinoin functions optimally at a higher pH and is destabilized by highly acidic environments. Applied simultaneously the two can partially deactivate each other and the combination produces significantly elevated irritation, particularly in older skin with already-compromised barrier function.

	~~The practical protocol separating these by time of day resolves both issues entirely. Vitamin C serum applied~~ in ~~the morning to clean dry skin~~, ~~allowed to absorb fully before moisturizer~~ and ~~sunscreen, captures~~ the ~~antioxidant protection against UV~~-~~generated free radicals that vitamin C provides throughout~~ the ~~day —~~ directly ~~complementing~~ the ~~sunscreen's physical barrier function and meaning the two interventions work synergistically rather than redundantly across the UV exposure window~~. ~~Tretinoin applied at night to clean skin that has been allowed to dry fully for approximately 20 to 30 minutes~~ post~~-cleansing~~ — ~~damp skin increases penetration and therefore irritation — captures~~ the ~~receptor-mediated collagen synthesis and cell turnover benefits without interference from~~ the ~~morning application~~.		A common misconception in online skincare communities, and for the vast majority of skincare enthusiasts is that putting anti-aging serums and creams on the skin directly over the eye leads to bad health outcomes. — One widely shared Reddit post warning against periorbital tretinoin use following an adverse experience<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/SkincareAddiction/comments/118uk3t/psa_do_not_put_trentinoin_on_your_eyelids_my/</ref> — is that tretinoin should be avoided entirely around the eye area. Meanwhile, the clinical evidence does not support complete avoidance.

	The ~~morning vitamin C plus nightly tretinoin protocol~~ is ~~genuinely additive rather than redundant because~~ the ~~two interventions drive collagen production through independent mechanisms~~ that ~~converge on~~ the ~~same outcome. L-ascorbic acid is a required cofactor for hydroxylation~~ of ~~proline and lysine~~ in ~~collagen synthesis — a pathway entirely distinct from~~ the retinoic acid receptor activation through which tretinoin drives collagen production. Both pathways increase collagen output but neither saturates the other's mechanism, meaning both contributions are captured simultaneously rather than one substituting for the ~~other~~. On the ~~pigmentation dimension the same independence holds — vitamin C inhibits melanin synthesis through tyrosinase inhibition~~ while tretinoin ~~addresses pigmentation through accelerated~~ epidermal ~~cell turnover~~, ~~again distinct mechanisms with complementary effects on~~ the ~~same visible outcome~~.		The periorbital region — crow's feet, under-eye skin, upper orbital area, and the mobile eyelid — is among the first facial regions to show visible aging and among the most important to treat given that eyebrow and lash density and the framing of the eye region are identified elsewhere in this article as the primary drivers of the 50–55 attractiveness cliff. Avoiding tretinoin in this region entirely means leaving the most aging-sensitive and aesthetically critical facial area completely untreated while surrounding skin improves. Large double-blind trials involving 533 subjects using tretinoin at concentrations of 0.001% to 0.05% included periorbital skin biopsies and documented increased epidermal thickness, healthier granular layer, reduced melanin, and overall improvement in photodamage around the eyes.<ref>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11896774/</ref>

	The combination of morning 15% vitamin C serum, nightly tretinoin at 0.025% to 0.05%, and daily broad spectrum sunscreen constitutes the most evidence-supported three-component facial skincare protocol ~~available~~ for photoaged skin and is the standard of care combination most dermatologists would recognize for facial photoaging management. For the Silverfox candidate this three-component protocol represents the practical starting point before considering TCA peels, laser sessions, or the Bryan Johnson level ~~multi-device~~ protocol — delivering meaningful results through over-the-counter and prescription-accessible interventions at substantially lower cost and zero clinical downtime relative to everything above it in the hierarchy.		A prospective split-face study applied 0.1% tretinoin cream directly to periorbital wrinkles nightly for 3 months and found shallow periorbital wrinkles well responsive.<ref>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5064202/</ref> The documented vision-related side effects of retinoid therapy — conjunctivitis and dry eye syndromes — are associated with product reaching the ocular surface through migration rather than absorption through periorbital skin.<ref>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27749251/</ref> The legitimate concern is therefore product migration into the eye, not dermal toxicity through periorbital skin, again the skin directly over the eye. The complete facial application map covers the full face including crow's feet, under-eye area, upper orbital area, and the mobile upper eyelid. The upper eyelid skin ages independently and leaving it completely untreated while surrounding skin improves creates an increasingly uneven aging pattern over years.
			=== Vitamin C 15% and tretinoin face combination protocol ===
			Topical vitamin C at 15% L-ascorbic acid and tretinoin are compatible as a combination protocol but require morning and nightly sequencing rather than simultaneous application. The incompatibility of simultaneous application is chemical — 15% L-ascorbic acid is most stable and effective at a low pH of approximately 2.5 to 3.5, while tretinoin is destabilized by highly acidic environments. Applied simultaneously the two can partially deactivate each other and produce significantly elevated irritation particularly in older skin.

			Vitamin C serum applied in the morning to clean dry skin before moisturizer and sunscreen captures the antioxidant protection against UV-generated free radicals throughout the day — directly complementing the sunscreen's barrier function. Tretinoin applied at night to clean skin allowed to dry fully for 20 to 30 minutes post-cleansing captures the receptor-mediated collagen synthesis and cell turnover benefits without interference.
			The morning vitamin C plus nightly tretinoin protocol is genuinely additive because the two interventions drive collagen production through independent mechanisms. L-ascorbic acid is a required cofactor for hydroxylation of proline and lysine in collagen synthesis — a pathway entirely distinct from the retinoic acid receptor activation through which tretinoin drives collagen production.<ref>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5605218/</ref>

			Both pathways increase collagen output but neither saturates the other's mechanism. On the pigmentation dimension the same independence holds — vitamin C inhibits melanin synthesis through tyrosinase inhibition while tretinoin addresses pigmentation through accelerated epidermal cell turnover, distinct mechanisms with complementary effects on the same visible outcome. Apply 15% L-ascorbic acid vitamin C serum to the full face including the periorbital (skin directly over the eye) region in the morning. If by the extremely off chance irritation does indeed occur specifically in the immediate eyelid or under-eye area — persistent stinging, redness, or barrier disruption — the appropriate action is to switch to a tetrahexyldecyl ascorbate or sodium ascorbate formulated eye area product for that region specifically. Both deliver effective vitamin C activity with significantly less irritation due to pH-neutral or lipid-soluble formulation respectively, and tetrahexyldecyl ascorbate in particular penetrates periorbital skin more efficiently than L-ascorbic acid at equivalent or even substantially higher concentrations.<ref>https://jcadonline.com/the-tricky-tear-trough-a-review-of-topical-cosmeceuticals-for-periorbital-skin-rejuvenation/</ref> Many users will tolerate 15% L-ascorbic acid around the eyes without needing to switch, according to the literature on the subject.

			The combination of morning 15% vitamin C serum, nightly tretinoin at 0.025% to 0.05%, and daily broad spectrum sunscreen constitutes the most evidence-supported three-component facial skincare protocol for photoaged skin and the standard of care combination most dermatologists would recognize for facial photoaging management. For the Silverfox candidate this three-component protocol represents the practical starting point before considering TCA peels, laser sessions, or the Bryan Johnson level protocol.

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	In order of evidence strength and return on investment:		In order of evidence strength and return on investment:
	Daily broad spectrum sunscreen on all UV-exposed skin — preventive foundation, highest long-term return, zero cost ~~barrier relative to other interventions~~. Topical tretinoin nightly on the face — most evidence-supported active facial intervention, 48-week clinical data showing approximately 10–15 perceived years of facial age reversal in elderly male subjects. Start at 0.025% and increase to 0.05% as tolerated. The 0.1% concentration produces equivalent results with substantially more irritation. 15% vitamin C serum twice daily on body skin — chest, shoulders, upper back, neck, forearms, hands ~~— most~~ dramatically effective intervention for photoaged body skin~~, producing reversal of approximately 30 perceived years of hand photoaging at 26 weeks~~ per the Wyles et al. clinical trial data.		Daily broad spectrum sunscreen on all UV-exposed skin — preventive foundation, highest long-term return, zero additional cost when incorporated into existing morning routine.

			Topical tretinoin nightly on the full face including periorbital region — most evidence-supported active facial intervention, 48-week clinical data showing approximately 10–15 perceived years of facial age reversal in elderly male subjects. Start at 0.025% and increase to 0.05% as tolerated. The 0.1% concentration produces equivalent anti-aging results with substantially more irritation and is not recommended as a starting point. Apply with technique modifications for periorbital region as detailed above.

			15% vitamin C serum every morning on the full face and twice daily on body skin — chest, shoulders, upper back, neck, forearms, hands. Most dramatically effective intervention for photoaged body skin per the Wyles et al. clinical trial data. Synergistic with nightly tretinoin through independent collagen synthesis pathways. Switch to tetrahexyldecyl ascorbate or sodium ascorbate eye formulation for the periorbital region only if irritation occurs — most users will not need to switch.

			Eyebrow and lash maintenance — topical minoxidil for brow regrowth, Latisse for lashes, microblading or transplantation as higher commitment alternatives — addressing the primary driver of the 50–55 attractiveness cliff independently of skin quality.

	TCA peels approximately twice yearly — complementary to tretinoin through a distinct injury-repair mechanism~~, standard dermatologist recommendation~~, synergy ~~with tretinoin~~ mechanistically plausible though not directly tested in controlled trials.		TCA peels approximately twice yearly — complementary to tretinoin through a distinct injury-repair mechanism, synergy mechanistically plausible though not directly tested in controlled trials. Pause tretinoin before each peel and resume after full recovery.

	Bryan Johnson-level four-session annual laser and radiofrequency protocol — non-surgical ceiling based on most documented long-term user, produces maintenance rather than dramatic reversal, requires clinical access and ongoing investment substantially above ~~the~~ interventions above.		Bryan Johnson-level four-session annual laser and radiofrequency protocol — non-surgical ceiling based on most documented long-term user, produces maintenance rather than dramatic reversal, requires clinical access and ongoing investment substantially above all interventions above. Relevant as a benchmark rather than a starting recommendation.

	== The reality check ==		== The reality check ==

Reproductive success

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	Androgynous male models such as Matthew Clayvane (whom has complained on [[Facebook]] of being misgendered as a girl, even though women rate his photos as high as a 9+ in attractiveness) are drastically underrepresented among the reproductively successful. There is alot of evidence for assortative mating for attractiveness, the correlation is at least moderate if not very high, at least among celebrities for both mating (having sex but not having children) and reproductive success, although 60 husbands of the top world's most beautiful women (sorted by men's votes only) of all time were averaged together into various average morphs including a hyper realistic facial morph.<ref>https://imgur.com/a/y1JvzO5</ref> With the result being they are generically plain looking, not handsome at all, however they aren't drastically ugly either, simply right in the middle, although many had attractive smiles despite the average resting face. Still the averaged morph reveals the highest sexual market place value women are getting pregnant by men with moderate facial masculinity, a medium to strong chin, a chiseled/strong jawline, a long ramus bone, slight to moderate [[norwooding]] with an otherwise full head of hair, an extremely unagressive resting face, a smile thats just as if not more handsome than their resting face and thin to avg bmi. Very handsome men were near non existent in the sample, completely bald men were drastically under represented as 39% of men in the usa go bald, but 99+% of the sample had hair, fat men underrepresented as well. [[Pretty Boy\|pretty boys]], and men with outlierly low facial masculinity were completely non existent, so it is very clear these high value women were selecting for a specific appearance just not outlier handsomeness. The men that had sex with the most beautiful, popular women of all time but did not get them pregnant or any other girl for that matter, were a combination of very handsome men as rated by women, men such as Keanu Reeves and Jared Leto, and very ugly childless men, as a entire group, the men also had absolutely 0 norwooding. So overall after a sample of 20 of those men, the resulting average morph, was generically plain looking, continuing the sample to 30,40,50 and then 60 showed the men as a group have a very low facial width to height ratio, a low F.W.H.R. is again correlated with lower reproductive success as other studies have shown. The men were also very thin compared to the reproducers. The very low F.W.H.R. was driven by the very ugly men having this trait.<ref>https://imgur.com/a/8qWvn0E</ref><ref>https://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/most-beautiful-women-of-all-time</ref>		Androgynous male models such as Matthew Clayvane (whom has complained on [[Facebook]] of being misgendered as a girl, even though women rate his photos as high as a 9+ in attractiveness) are drastically underrepresented among the reproductively successful. There is alot of evidence for assortative mating for attractiveness, the correlation is at least moderate if not very high, at least among celebrities for both mating (having sex but not having children) and reproductive success, although 60 husbands of the top world's most beautiful women (sorted by men's votes only) of all time were averaged together into various average morphs including a hyper realistic facial morph.<ref>https://imgur.com/a/y1JvzO5</ref> With the result being they are generically plain looking, not handsome at all, however they aren't drastically ugly either, simply right in the middle, although many had attractive smiles despite the average resting face. Still the averaged morph reveals the highest sexual market place value women are getting pregnant by men with moderate facial masculinity, a medium to strong chin, a chiseled/strong jawline, a long ramus bone, slight to moderate [[norwooding]] with an otherwise full head of hair, an extremely unagressive resting face, a smile thats just as if not more handsome than their resting face and thin to avg bmi. Very handsome men were near non existent in the sample, completely bald men were drastically under represented as 39% of men in the usa go bald, but 99+% of the sample had hair, fat men underrepresented as well. [[Pretty Boy\|pretty boys]], and men with outlierly low facial masculinity were completely non existent, so it is very clear these high value women were selecting for a specific appearance just not outlier handsomeness. The men that had sex with the most beautiful, popular women of all time but did not get them pregnant or any other girl for that matter, were a combination of very handsome men as rated by women, men such as Keanu Reeves and Jared Leto, and very ugly childless men, as a entire group, the men also had absolutely 0 norwooding. So overall after a sample of 20 of those men, the resulting average morph, was generically plain looking, continuing the sample to 30,40,50 and then 60 showed the men as a group have a very low facial width to height ratio, a low F.W.H.R. is again correlated with lower reproductive success as other studies have shown. The men were also very thin compared to the reproducers. The very low F.W.H.R. was driven by the very ugly men having this trait.<ref>https://imgur.com/a/8qWvn0E</ref><ref>https://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/most-beautiful-women-of-all-time</ref>

	Interestingly the men that got the most beautiful, popular women of all time pregnant look remarkably similar to the "attractive" husband average morph from a study done on the heritability of parent to offspring facial attractiveness, the results of which showed very high heritability of attractiveness for daughters but near none for sons.<ref>https://imgur.com/a/5sl6PHI</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0003347208003928</ref> Suggesting the study had a shortage of 7+/10 in attractiveness fathers as an actual averaged morph of 7+/10 attractiveness fathers as rated by women on [[photofeeler]], fathers such as Jude Law, Tyson Beckford, Arnold Schwarzenegger etc. is very obviously better looking and was even rated nearly a 7/10 in attractiveness despite being just a basic morph, (which score lower than hyper realistic morphs), were as the "attractive" husband average morph (also a basic non hyper realistic morph) from the study would most certainly only get around a 4 to 5 out of 10 in attractiveness<ref>https://imgur.com/a/4eoKdx2</ref>, suggesting [[Chad]] and [[Gigachad]] are unlikely to become fathers within the general population and that extremely outlier attractiveness on behalf of the father, on the level of a [[Silverfox]] is unnecessary for producing outlierly beautiful daughters. The obvious difference between the averaged "attractive husband" morph and the "unattractive husband" is that the unattractive husband has no head hair and the attractive has a full head of hair by middle age. Suggesting complete baldness is a legitimate sign of "bad genes" as they have less attractive daughters, and marry uglier wives on average. Still some outlier men get rated higher on [[photofeeler]] bald, than with hair. Men such as [[Andrew Tate]], and there are other bald men that also score high. Men such as Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, Jason Statham, Vin Diesel, and Shemar Moore.		Interestingly the men that got the most beautiful, popular women of all time pregnant look remarkably similar to the "attractive" husband average morph from a study done on the heritability of parent to offspring facial attractiveness, the results of which showed very high heritability of attractiveness for daughters but near none for sons.<ref>https://imgur.com/a/5sl6PHI</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0003347208003928</ref> Suggesting the study had a shortage of 7+/10 in attractiveness fathers as an actual averaged morph of 7+/10 attractiveness fathers as rated by women on [[photofeeler]], fathers such as Jude Law, Tyson Beckford, Arnold Schwarzenegger etc. is very obviously better looking and was even rated nearly a 7/10 in attractiveness despite being just a basic morph, (which score lower than hyper realistic morphs), were as the "attractive" husband average morph (also a basic non hyper realistic morph) from the study would most certainly only get around a 4 to 5 out of 10 in attractiveness<ref>https://imgur.com/a/4eoKdx2</ref>, suggesting [[Chad]] and [[Gigachad]] are unlikely to become fathers within the general population and that extremely outlier attractiveness on behalf of the father, on the level of a [[Silverfox]] is unnecessary for producing outlierly beautiful daughters. The obvious difference between the averaged "attractive husband" morph and the "unattractive husband" is that the unattractive husband has no head hair and the attractive has a full head of hair by middle age. Suggesting complete baldness is a legitimate sign of "bad genes" as they have less attractive daughters, and marry uglier wives on average. Still some outlier men get rated higher on [[photofeeler]] bald, than with hair. Men such as [[Andrew Tate]], and there are other bald men that also score high. Men such as Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, Jason Statham, Vin Diesel, and Shemar Moore. However an averaged, bald morph of these men's faces, received middling scores on the other anonymous rating site photoeval, a site were users rate more on visceral sex appeal, heavily suggesting that baldness cannot and is not actually sexy but can nonetheless still reflect broad socialy desire able traits, the most obvious being social dominance.

	A hyper realistic average morph of Victoria Secret Model boyfriends showed these women were currently dating handsome men, about an 8/10 in attractiveness, however average in other looks facets such as perceived trust, smarts, and competency.<ref>https://imgur.com/a/TsVO1oA</ref> in contrast their girlfriends score high across the board, thus overall their current boyfriends tend to look worse than themselves<ref>https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/news/g29062/victorias-secret-models-husbands-boyfriends/</ref>. Simply having a high facial width to height ratio has proven to be a better indicator of reproductive success and raw sexual partner count than handsomeness. The men that enter male beauty pageants like Mr. Supranatural are all outlierly handsome, however they all seem to be single, mainly posting pics of only themselves on social media. Nearly every woman in interviews says they want a man thats tall, handsome, educated, wealthy/high income etc. exactly how evolutionary psychology predicts, and these men are expected to have high sexual marketplace value, however many self identified incels are tall, educated, outlierly handsome, rich/wealthy etc.<ref>https://imgur.com/a/wEIgHqy</ref> and the 2 highest scoring men on photofeeler in attractiveness, 10/10 George Clooney and Johnny Depp still have problems dealing with their wives. Dating Guru Kevin Samuels pushed the concept that earning a six figure income automatically made the man "high value" however women insisted they had to be physically attracted, so at least average looking. The majority of these men would be high [[IQ]] however there is evidence suggesting high earning, educated men are more likely to marry very ugly women.<ref>https://ideas.repec.org/a/eee/ehbiol/v29y2018icp189-197.html</ref> Also more men from S.T.E.M careers than humanities report lack of sexual success despite their high earning power etc. In reality the traits most correlated with high reproductive and mating success are toxically masculine behavior. Impulsive, manipulative, unfaithful, conniving, cheating, psychopathic, criminal, sexually aggressive/forward, entitlement to sex, dominance signalling, rape, becoming a cult leader, creating/joining a gang, etc. as these behaviors statistically lower the chance of ending up incel. No gang members post on incel forums.		A hyper realistic average morph of Victoria Secret Model boyfriends showed these women were currently dating handsome men, about an 8/10 in attractiveness, however average in other looks facets such as perceived trust, smarts, and competency.<ref>https://imgur.com/a/TsVO1oA</ref> in contrast their girlfriends score high across the board, thus overall their current boyfriends tend to look worse than themselves<ref>https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/news/g29062/victorias-secret-models-husbands-boyfriends/</ref>. Simply having a high facial width to height ratio has proven to be a better indicator of reproductive success and raw sexual partner count than handsomeness. The men that enter male beauty pageants like Mr. Supranatural are all outlierly handsome, however they all seem to be single, mainly posting pics of only themselves on social media. Nearly every woman in interviews says they want a man thats tall, handsome, educated, wealthy/high income etc. exactly how evolutionary psychology predicts, and these men are expected to have high sexual marketplace value, however many self identified incels are tall, educated, outlierly handsome, rich/wealthy etc.<ref>https://imgur.com/a/wEIgHqy</ref> and the 2 highest scoring men on photofeeler in attractiveness, 10/10 George Clooney and Johnny Depp still have problems dealing with their wives. Dating Guru Kevin Samuels pushed the concept that earning a six figure income automatically made the man "high value" however women insisted they had to be physically attracted, so at least average looking. The majority of these men would be high [[IQ]] however there is evidence suggesting high earning, educated men are more likely to marry very ugly women.<ref>https://ideas.repec.org/a/eee/ehbiol/v29y2018icp189-197.html</ref> Also more men from S.T.E.M careers than humanities report lack of sexual success despite their high earning power etc. In reality the traits most correlated with high reproductive and mating success are toxically masculine behavior. Impulsive, manipulative, unfaithful, conniving, cheating, psychopathic, criminal, sexually aggressive/forward, entitlement to sex, dominance signalling, rape, becoming a cult leader, creating/joining a gang, etc. as these behaviors statistically lower the chance of ending up incel. No gang members post on incel forums.

Pretty Boy

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	And finally the most controversial finding, men with higher 2d 4d ratio again more prenatal estrogen exposure relative to testosterone are more likely to grow up and identify as homosexual "bottoms", meaning that they only receive during homosexual sex, and are exclusively homosexual<ref>https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-87338-0</ref>. Overall the evidence for the [[homochad hypothesis]] is extremely robust, and while surprising to most men, female readers most likely would not be, as Yaoi also known as boy love and other male on male romance fan fics are extremely popular among women. In fact on the anonymous photo rating site Photoeval.com women rated Kpop singer Jimin (who is discussed throughout this article) as ridiculously attractive, nearly perfect scores under the context of him being a romantic, sensual, bisexual lover. Graphic sexual descriptions do dramatically bad and sensual descriptions are rated most attractive by women. It has been observed that men with lots of [[reproductive success]], "hyper reproducers" are never pretty boys, as in you wont find a pretty boy with 10+ kids. and in the Wisconsin Longitudinal Study attractive men had no more children than average looking men<ref>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21151758</ref>.		And finally the most controversial finding, men with higher 2d 4d ratio again more prenatal estrogen exposure relative to testosterone are more likely to grow up and identify as homosexual "bottoms", meaning that they only receive during homosexual sex, and are exclusively homosexual<ref>https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-87338-0</ref>. Overall the evidence for the [[homochad hypothesis]] is extremely robust, and while surprising to most men, female readers most likely would not be, as Yaoi also known as boy love and other male on male romance fan fics are extremely popular among women. In fact on the anonymous photo rating site Photoeval.com women rated Kpop singer Jimin (who is discussed throughout this article) as ridiculously attractive, nearly perfect scores under the context of him being a romantic, sensual, bisexual lover. Graphic sexual descriptions do dramatically bad and sensual descriptions are rated most attractive by women. It has been observed that men with lots of [[reproductive success]], "hyper reproducers" are never pretty boys, as in you wont find a pretty boy with 10+ kids. and in the Wisconsin Longitudinal Study attractive men had no more children than average looking men<ref>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21151758</ref>.

	On the other hand, there are studies with results showing that men with high testosterone finger ratios are more facially attractive, however these studies don't have actual pictures in their figures for the public to replicate their findings. Even so considering both the Turkish sample and East Asian sample studies actually do come with averaged face morphs, the public can clearly see the high prenatal estrogen fingered men are pretty boys. The Incel Wiki team has used the latest AI, Sora 1 to make perfect composite averaged facial morphs of celebrities on the internet who in pictures of their hands, waving at the camera, have high or low testosterone fingers, and its clear high estrogen finger celebrities like pretty boy Manu Rios have more feminine faces, and the high testosterone fingered celebrity men look like masculine [[Chad]] were they are both "attractive" and manly. The most parsimonious answer to the conflicting data, is that men who are 100% straight but have a high estrogen finger ratio, may be feminine looking in an unaesthetic way, possible [[cutecel]], and that [[homochad]]s are feminine in an aesthetc way. this is considering the fact the Incel Wiki Team had to draw from openly gay actors just to find enough men whom had estrogen dominant fingers for a valid sample size to make the averaged face morph. One example of a extremely feminine faced man who does have high estrogen dominant finger ratio and is 100% heterosexual but is still considered to be extremely ugly is actor Michael Cera.		On the other hand, there are studies with results showing that men with high testosterone finger ratios are more facially attractive, however these studies don't have actual pictures in their figures for the public to replicate their findings. Even so considering both the Turkish sample and East Asian sample studies actually do come with averaged face morphs, the public can clearly see the high prenatal estrogen fingered men are pretty boys. The Incel Wiki team has used the latest AI, Sora 1 to make perfect composite averaged facial morphs of celebrities on the internet who in pictures of their hands, waving at the camera, have high or low testosterone fingers, and its clear high estrogen finger celebrities like pretty boy Manu Rios have more feminine faces, and the high testosterone fingered celebrity men look like masculine [[Chad]] were they are both "attractive" and manly. The most parsimonious answer to the conflicting data, is that men who are 100% straight but have a high estrogen finger ratio, may be feminine looking in an unaesthetic way, possible [[cutecel]], and that [[homochad]]s are feminine in an aesthetc way. this is considering the fact the Incel Wiki Team had to draw from openly gay actors just to find enough men whom had estrogen dominant fingers for a valid sample size to make the averaged face morph. One example of a extremely feminine faced man who does have high estrogen dominant finger ratio and is 100% heterosexual but is still considered to be extremely ugly is actor Michael Cera ((although in his most feminine submissive picture he scored above a 5 on photoeval so the ugly perception is probably more a reflection of his casting in roles and his voice than his physical appearance). Its also possible that when choosing between 2 facial morphs that are the face only, effectively a choice between 2 bald men, the more masculine face in that scenario has a reasonable chance of being more "attractive".

	Anecdotally, women on average rate the most driven to achieve reproductive success of men as very facially unattractive sometimes insanely low physical evaluation scores especially over the men in questions lifetime as even the better looking hyper reproducers don't age gracefully, all due to the men in question's higher [[facial masculinity]]. Basically facial masculinity is inconsistent. A facially masculine man may be high ranked by one sample or demographic of women or bottom of the barrel to another, while facial feminity is entirely consistent as in a very feminine faced men will generally do well across all demographics of women especially when rated by women aged 40+<ref>https://imgur.com/a/BLSON1E</ref>. 40+ year old women linearly with age, rating facially feminine men as ideal is extremely disheartening to most husbands meaning that nearly all husbands wont be seen as facially attractive by their wives anymore by middle age if they ever were to begin with and even [[silverfox]]es would ideally have feminine facial traits for example the long eyelashes of a 20 year old.		Anecdotally, women on average rate the most driven to achieve reproductive success of men as very facially unattractive sometimes insanely low physical evaluation scores especially over the men in questions lifetime as even the better looking hyper reproducers don't age gracefully, all due to the men in question's higher [[facial masculinity]]. Basically facial masculinity is inconsistent. A facially masculine man may be high ranked by one sample or demographic of women or bottom of the barrel to another, while facial feminity is entirely consistent as in a very feminine faced men will generally do well across all demographics of women especially when rated by women aged 40+<ref>https://imgur.com/a/BLSON1E</ref>. 40+ year old women linearly with age, rating facially feminine men as ideal is extremely disheartening to most husbands meaning that nearly all husbands wont be seen as facially attractive by their wives anymore by middle age if they ever were to begin with and even [[silverfox]]es would ideally have feminine facial traits for example the long eyelashes of a 20 year old.

Silverfox

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	=== TCA peels and tretinoin synergy ===		=== TCA peels and tretinoin synergy ===
	Trichloroacetic acid peels at medium concentration represent a complementary intervention to tretinoin with a distinct and non-overlapping mechanism of action. Tretinoin works through retinoic acid receptor activation driving accelerated cell turnover, collagen synthesis stimulation, and inhibition of collagen-degrading matrix metalloproteinases — a receptor-mediated gene expression modulation mechanism. TCA peels work through controlled protein coagulation causing epidermal and superficial dermal injury that triggers a wound healing response, new collagen deposition, and epidermal regeneration — a controlled injury-repair mechanism. Standard dermatologist recommendation for TCA peels is approximately two per year. The genuine mechanistic distinction between these two interventions makes combination protocols clinically plausible — one modulates gene expression continuously while the other periodically triggers acute repair responses. Whether the combination produces additive or superadditive results relative to either intervention alone has not been directly tested in a controlled trial in the published literature as of this writing, making it a speculative but mechanistically reasonable hypothesis rather than an evidence-based recommendation. In practice tretinoin should be paused before a TCA peel to reduce barrier disruption and unpredictable peel depth, with resumption after full skin recovery.		Trichloroacetic acid peels at medium concentration represent a complementary intervention to tretinoin with a distinct and non-overlapping mechanism of action. Tretinoin works through retinoic acid receptor activation driving accelerated cell turnover, collagen synthesis stimulation, and inhibition of collagen-degrading matrix metalloproteinases — a receptor-mediated gene expression modulation mechanism. TCA peels work through controlled protein coagulation causing epidermal and superficial dermal injury that triggers a wound healing response, new collagen deposition, and epidermal regeneration — a controlled injury-repair mechanism. Standard dermatologist recommendation for TCA peels is approximately two per year. The genuine mechanistic distinction between these two interventions makes combination protocols clinically plausible — one modulates gene expression continuously while the other periodically triggers acute repair responses. Whether the combination produces additive or superadditive results relative to either intervention alone has not been directly tested in a controlled trial in the published literature as of this writing, making it a speculative but mechanistically reasonable hypothesis rather than an evidence-based recommendation. In practice tretinoin should be paused before a TCA peel to reduce barrier disruption and unpredictable peel depth, with resumption after full skin recovery.
			=== Vitamin C 15% and tretinoin face combo synergy ===
			Topical vitamin C at 15% L-ascorbic acid and tretinoin are compatible as a combination protocol but require morning and nightly sequencing rather than simultaneous application. The incompatibility of simultaneous application is chemical rather than biological — 15% L-ascorbic acid is most stable and effective at a low pH of approximately 2.5 to 3.5, while tretinoin functions optimally at a higher pH and is destabilized by highly acidic environments. Applied simultaneously the two can partially deactivate each other and the combination produces significantly elevated irritation, particularly in older skin with already-compromised barrier function.

			The practical protocol separating these by time of day resolves both issues entirely. Vitamin C serum applied in the morning to clean dry skin, allowed to absorb fully before moisturizer and sunscreen, captures the antioxidant protection against UV-generated free radicals that vitamin C provides throughout the day — directly complementing the sunscreen's physical barrier function and meaning the two interventions work synergistically rather than redundantly across the UV exposure window. Tretinoin applied at night to clean skin that has been allowed to dry fully for approximately 20 to 30 minutes post-cleansing — damp skin increases penetration and therefore irritation — captures the receptor-mediated collagen synthesis and cell turnover benefits without interference from the morning application.

			The morning vitamin C plus nightly tretinoin protocol is genuinely additive rather than redundant because the two interventions drive collagen production through independent mechanisms that converge on the same outcome. L-ascorbic acid is a required cofactor for hydroxylation of proline and lysine in collagen synthesis — a pathway entirely distinct from the retinoic acid receptor activation through which tretinoin drives collagen production. Both pathways increase collagen output but neither saturates the other's mechanism, meaning both contributions are captured simultaneously rather than one substituting for the other. On the pigmentation dimension the same independence holds — vitamin C inhibits melanin synthesis through tyrosinase inhibition while tretinoin addresses pigmentation through accelerated epidermal cell turnover, again distinct mechanisms with complementary effects on the same visible outcome.

			The combination of morning 15% vitamin C serum, nightly tretinoin at 0.025% to 0.05%, and daily broad spectrum sunscreen constitutes the most evidence-supported three-component facial skincare protocol available for photoaged skin and is the standard of care combination most dermatologists would recognize for facial photoaging management. For the Silverfox candidate this three-component protocol represents the practical starting point before considering TCA peels, laser sessions, or the Bryan Johnson level multi-device protocol — delivering meaningful results through over-the-counter and prescription-accessible interventions at substantially lower cost and zero clinical downtime relative to everything above it in the hierarchy.

	=== The Bryan Johnson protocol: the non-surgical ceiling ===		=== The Bryan Johnson protocol: the non-surgical ceiling ===
	The most documented long-term facial skin intervention program available for analysis is that of Bryan Johnson, whose protocol as of 2024–2025 includes four laser sessions per year across two wavelengths — the 1927nm laser twice yearly targeting surface epidermal damage, pigmentation, and texture through accelerated epidermal turnover, and the 1550nm laser twice yearly penetrating to the mid-dermis to stimulate fibroblast collagen and elastin production — supplemented by twice-yearly Sofwave non-invasive ultrasound treatments and twice-yearly Everesse monopolar radiofrequency treatments delivering dual-depth thermal stimulation for lifting and volumizing effects.<ref>https://blueprint.bryanjohnson.com</ref>		The most documented long-term facial skin intervention program available for analysis is that of Bryan Johnson, whose protocol as of 2024–2025 includes four laser sessions per year across two wavelengths — the 1927nm laser twice yearly targeting surface epidermal damage, pigmentation, and texture through accelerated epidermal turnover, and the 1550nm laser twice yearly penetrating to the mid-dermis to stimulate fibroblast collagen and elastin production — supplemented by twice-yearly Sofwave non-invasive ultrasound treatments and twice-yearly Everesse monopolar radiofrequency treatments delivering dual-depth thermal stimulation for lifting and volumizing effects.<ref>https://blueprint.bryanjohnson.com</ref>

Puahate Sluthate Lookism (PSL)

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	Around December 2021. Lookism.net officially shut down		Around December 2021. Lookism.net officially shut down
	===Notable Users===		===Notable Users===
	Notable users include MVP, Bojack, Sin, 6ft4, forevergymcelling, mogs_me, Oldrooster, etc		Notable users include MVP, Bojack, Sin, 6ft4, forevergymcelling, mogs_me, Zyzz007, assburger, Dyinghope, Oldrooster, etc

	==PSL and Inceldom==		==PSL and Inceldom==

Kyle Incel

77.78.224.221 — Sat, 16 May 2026 06:26:57 GMT

Added link to his current channel. Added 2026 update.

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	In the Spring of 2019, he renamed "Kyle Incel 2" to "Kyle H.". Later in 2019, he renamed it back to "Kyle incel".		In the Spring of 2019, he renamed "Kyle Incel 2" to "Kyle H.". Later in 2019, he renamed it back to "Kyle incel".

	As of 2025, ~~there seem to be no channels owned by him~~.		As of 2025, his channel is called [https://www.youtube.com/@kyleh4024/videos "Kyle H."]

			In April 2026, Kyle returned after an almost 3 year long hiatus with the video titled "Gee Whiz I'm Back ... WHAT???".

	==Dreams of Threesomes==		==Dreams of Threesomes==

Frame

185.237.63.121 — Sat, 16 May 2026 06:26:26 GMT

Framemogging and aspies

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	Framemogging typically refers to the act of a man making another man look physically inferior or frail by having a more impressive bone structure in the region from the neck down to the torso via traits such as arm length span (wingspan), skeletal width, bone mass and wider clavicles. Being framoemogged is considered more of an ego bruise than many other types of mogging because it comes down to genetics; even if you go to the gym to build muscle, you will ultimately not be able to change the underlying immutble structure of one's skeletal frame. Its permanent and no amount of [[looksmaxxing]] can change that.		Framemogging typically refers to the act of a man making another man look physically inferior or frail by having a more impressive bone structure in the region from the neck down to the torso via traits such as arm length span (wingspan), skeletal width, bone mass and wider clavicles. Being framoemogged is considered more of an ego bruise than many other types of mogging because it comes down to genetics; even if you go to the gym to build muscle, you will ultimately not be able to change the underlying immutble structure of one's skeletal frame. Its permanent and no amount of [[looksmaxxing]] can change that.

	However one frequently overlooked aspect of framemogging is the aspect of one's dynamic posture which is affected by one's psychomotor profile. Men on the autism spectrum, especially men with aspergers, are said to have an awkward psychomotor profile leading to them being framogged regularly by normies. Examples include the fact autists or aspies may have a weird gait, they may stim to calm themselves, facial affect issues such as non-congruent facial expressions, convoluted or clumsy stance or seating position and a negative proprioception and spatial awareness. All these fine motor and gross motor issues affect the level of static or dynamic posture one has and the commanding presence one has within the framework of framemoging. As such, neurotypical men usually framemog neurodivergent, especially asperger men, in the sense of the mechanical output of their central nervous system that indicates a superior psychomotor profile. The psychomotor profile is a branch within framogging which itself is a branch within looks ratings / PSL ratings. The poor perfomance of aspies and autists on psychomotor profile thus pushes down their attractiveness averages. Hence a high-tier normie ~~aspe~~ becomes a subfive incel, -tier normie might even dowgrade to a subhuman truecel.		However one frequently overlooked aspect of framemogging is the aspect of one's dynamic posture which is affected by one's psychomotor profile. Men on the autism spectrum, especially men with aspergers, are said to have an awkward psychomotor profile leading to them being framogged regularly by normies. Examples include the fact autists or aspies may have a weird gait, they may stim to calm themselves, facial affect issues such as non-congruent facial expressions, convoluted or clumsy stance or seating position and a negative proprioception and spatial awareness. All these fine motor and gross motor issues affect the level of static or dynamic posture one has and the commanding presence one has within the framework of framemoging. As such, neurotypical men usually framemog neurodivergent, especially asperger men, in the sense of the mechanical output of their central nervous system that indicates a superior psychomotor profile. The psychomotor profile is a branch within framogging which itself is a branch within looks ratings / PSL ratings. The poor perfomance of aspies and autists on psychomotor profile thus pushes down their attractiveness averages. Hence a high-tier normie aspie becomes a subfive incel, whilst a mid-tier normie might even dowgrade to a subhuman truecel purely because of the lacklustre psychmotor profile within framemogging they have. In other words, a static image such as a elfie rarely does justice to someone's physical appeal the way a video does. This is why there's such a discrepancy with aspie men and autist men between how raters judge someone on a 1-to-10 scale (usually "you're okay") and how that same person is actually perceived in real life dating scenarios (forever rejected).

	==See also==		==See also==

Fried by Fluoride

2600:1003:B0F1:910C:D8A4:1D25:9F3B:C344 — Sat, 16 May 2026 06:25:48 GMT

Fried as a person: I fixed categorizing of being attracted to late/post-pubescent minors to ephebophile instead of the false term pedophile.

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	==Fried as a person==		==Fried as a person==
	Fried is a very controversial person, being an open ~~pedophile~~ and [[Alt-Right\|racist]]. On his Twitter he often says racial slurs and makes hateful comments, and he has also had a relationship with a 16 year old, as well as a clip of him saying he finds 15 year olds hot. Fried also makes homophobic and antisemitic posts, as well as saying he thinks [[rape]] is funny and showing [[Dicklet\|his penis]] on a live stream. Him being so [[Edgelord\|edgy]] and also being so open about his prejudice and pedophilia makes even other people in the Incelcore scene hate him. Fried's favorite band is Nirvana, he has made a cover of their song 'Drain You' and he tags all his music on Bandcamp with 'nirvana'. Note: it's not confirmed if he DID have a relationship with said 16 year old, and others have said he has stripped in front of a school, but that allegation is false as he stripped on his backyard.		Fried is a very controversial person, being an open ehpebophile and [[Alt-Right\|racist]]. On his Twitter he often says racial slurs and makes hateful comments, and he has also had a relationship with a 16 year old, as well as a clip of him saying he finds 15 year olds hot. Fried also makes homophobic and antisemitic posts, as well as saying he thinks [[rape]] is funny and showing [[Dicklet\|his penis]] on a live stream. Him being so [[Edgelord\|edgy]] and also being so open about his prejudice and pedophilia makes even other people in the Incelcore scene hate him. Fried's favorite band is Nirvana, he has made a cover of their song 'Drain You' and he tags all his music on Bandcamp with 'nirvana'. Note: it's not confirmed if he DID have a relationship with said 16 year old, and others have said he has stripped in front of a school, but that allegation is false as he stripped on his backyard.

	==Fried by Fluoride discography==		==Fried by Fluoride discography==

Looksmax.org

The unofficial Author — Sat, 16 May 2026 06:23:41 GMT

Replaced few notable members, removed self-added notable members

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Decile

Ninjamaxxing — Sat, 16 May 2026 06:23:34 GMT

Table: Corrected the spelling of "normie", added escortmaxxing as a Male experience for sub 8s, made endings for words ending in "-maxx" consistent

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	\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|7		\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|7
	\| colspan="3" \| male [[High-tier ~~normy~~]]		\| colspan="3" \| male [[High-tier normie]]
	\| colspan="3" \| [[High-tier Becky]]		\| colspan="3" \| [[High-tier Becky]]
	\|-		\|-
	\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|6		\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|6
	\| [[Brad]] \|\| colspan="2" rowspan="2" \| Male mid-tier ~~normy~~		\| [[Brad]] \|\| colspan="2" rowspan="2" \| Male mid-tier normie
	\| [[Becky]] \|\| colspan="2" rowspan="2" \| Female mid-tier ~~normy~~		\| [[Becky]] \|\| colspan="2" rowspan="2" \| Female mid-tier normie
	\|[[Betabux]], [[Cuckmaxx]]		\|[[Betabux\|Betabuxxing]], [[Cuckmaxx\|Cuckmaxxing]], Escortmaxxing
	\|-		\|-
	\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|5		\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|5
	\| [[Tanner]]		\| [[Tanner]]
	\| [[Low-tier Becky]]		\| [[Low-tier Becky]]
	\|[[Betabux]], [[Cuckmaxx]]		\|[[Betabux\|Betabuxxing]], [[Cuckmaxx\|Cuckmaxxing]], Escortmaxxing
	\|-		\|-
	\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|4		\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|4
	\| [[Melvin]] \|\| colspan="2" \| male [[Low-tier ~~normy~~]]		\| [[Melvin]] \|\| colspan="2" \| male [[Low-tier normie]]
	\| [[Gertrude]] \|\| colspan="2" \| Female [[Low-tier ~~normy~~]]		\| [[Gertrude]] \|\| colspan="2" \| Female [[Low-tier normie]]
	\| colspan="1" style="border-left: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|[[Betabux]], [[Cuckmaxx]]		\| colspan="1" style="border-left: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|[[Betabux\|Betabuxxing]], [[Cuckmaxx\|Cuckmaxxing]], Escortmaxxing
	\|-		\|-
	\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|3		\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|3
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	\|[[Femcel-lite]]		\|[[Femcel-lite]]
	\|[[High-tier femcel]]		\|[[High-tier femcel]]
	\|<small>[[Inceldom spectrum]],~~<br />~~[[NEET]], [[sexual frustration\|sexual frustration, SEAmaxxing]]</small>		\|<small>[[Inceldom spectrum]], [[NEET]],<br />[[sexual frustration\|sexual frustration]], [[SEAmaxx\|SEAmaxxing]], Escortmaxxing </small>
	\|-		\|-
	\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|2		\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|2
	\| colspan="3" \|[[Malecel\|Incel]] <small>(male [[inceldom]])</small>		\| colspan="3" \|[[Malecel\|Incel]] <small>(male [[inceldom]])</small>
	\| colspan="3" \|[[Femcel]] <small>(foid [[inceldom]])</small>		\| colspan="3" \|[[Femcel]] <small>(foid [[inceldom]])</small>
	\|<small>[[Inceldom spectrum]],<br />[[~~NEET~~]], [[~~sexual frustration~~\|~~sexual frustration,~~ SEAmaxxing]]</small>		\|<small>[[Inceldom spectrum]], [[NEET]],<br />[[sexual frustration]], [[SEAmaxx\|SEAmaxxing]], Escortmaxxing</small>
	\|-		\|-
	\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|[[1/10\|1]]		\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|[[1/10\|1]]
	\| colspan="3" \|[[Truecel]] <small>([[Omega male]])</small>		\| colspan="3" \|[[Truecel]] <small>([[Omega male]])</small>
	\| colspan="3" \|[[Truefemcel]] <small>([[Omega female]])</small>		\| colspan="3" \|[[Truefemcel]] <small>([[Omega female]])</small>
	\| colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="border-left: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|<small>[[Inceldom spectrum]],~~<br />~~[[NEET]], [[sexual frustration\|sexual frustration,]]</~~small~~> Genetic dead end		\| colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="border-left: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|<small>[[Inceldom spectrum]],[[NEET]], [[sexual frustration\|sexual frustration]],<br />[[SEAmaxx\|SEAmaxxing]], Escortmaxxing, Genetic dead end</small>
	\|}		\|}

	== Correlation with Data ==		== Correlation with Data ==
	According to the works from OkCupid<ref name=":0" />, people who are rated 5 or above are the top 20% of the population, and those that are rated higher than the 7.5 range are the top 4% of the population (thus follows the [[80/20 Rule]]). Also as a side note, the population median is ~2.75, the 20th percentile is ~1, and the 4th percentile is ~0.25.		According to the works from OkCupid<ref name=":0" />, people who are rated 5 or above are the top 20% of the population, and those that are rated higher than the 7.5 range are the top 4% of the population (thus follows the [[80/20 Rule]]). Also as a side note, the population median is ~2.75, the 20th percentile is ~1, and the 4th percentile is ~0.25.

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	\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|7		\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|7
	\| colspan="3" \| male [[High-tier ~~normy~~]]		\| colspan="3" \| male [[High-tier normie]]
	\| colspan="3" \| [[High-tier Becky]]		\| colspan="3" \| [[High-tier Becky]]
	\|-		\|-
	\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|6		\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|6
	\| [[Brad]] \|\| colspan="2" rowspan="2" \| Male mid-tier ~~normy~~		\| [[Brad]] \|\| colspan="2" rowspan="2" \| Male mid-tier normie
	\| [[Becky]] \|\| colspan="2" rowspan="2" \| Female mid-tier ~~normy~~		\| [[Becky]] \|\| colspan="2" rowspan="2" \| Female mid-tier normie
	\|[[Betabux]], [[Cuckmaxx]]		\|[[Betabux\|Betabuxxing]], [[Cuckmaxx\|Cuckmaxxing]], Escortmaxxing
	\|-		\|-
	\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|5		\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|5
	\| [[Tanner]]		\| [[Tanner]]
	\| [[Low-tier Becky]]		\| [[Low-tier Becky]]
	\|[[Betabux]], [[Cuckmaxx]]		\|[[Betabux\|Betabuxxing]], [[Cuckmaxx\|Cuckmaxxing]], Escortmaxxing
	\|-		\|-
	\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|4		\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|4
	\| [[Melvin]] \|\| colspan="2" \| male [[Low-tier ~~normy~~]]		\| [[Melvin]] \|\| colspan="2" \| male [[Low-tier normie]]
	\| [[Gertrude]] \|\| colspan="2" \| Female [[Low-tier ~~normy~~]]		\| [[Gertrude]] \|\| colspan="2" \| Female [[Low-tier normie]]
	\| colspan="1" style="border-left: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|[[Betabux]], [[Cuckmaxx]]		\| colspan="1" style="border-left: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|[[Betabux\|Betabuxxing]], [[Cuckmaxx\|Cuckmaxxing]], Escortmaxxing
	\|-		\|-
	\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|3		\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|3
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	\|[[Femcel-lite]]		\|[[Femcel-lite]]
	\|[[High-tier femcel]]		\|[[High-tier femcel]]
	\|<small>[[Inceldom spectrum]],~~<br />~~[[NEET]], [[sexual frustration\|sexual frustration, SEAmaxxing]]</small>		\|<small>[[Inceldom spectrum]], [[NEET]],<br />[[sexual frustration\|sexual frustration]], [[SEAmaxx\|SEAmaxxing]], Escortmaxxing </small>
	\|-		\|-
	\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|2		\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|2
	\| colspan="3" \|[[Malecel\|Incel]] <small>(male [[inceldom]])</small>		\| colspan="3" \|[[Malecel\|Incel]] <small>(male [[inceldom]])</small>
	\| colspan="3" \|[[Femcel]] <small>(foid [[inceldom]])</small>		\| colspan="3" \|[[Femcel]] <small>(foid [[inceldom]])</small>
	\|<small>[[Inceldom spectrum]],<br />[[~~NEET~~]], [[~~sexual frustration~~\|~~sexual frustration,~~ SEAmaxxing]]</small>		\|<small>[[Inceldom spectrum]], [[NEET]],<br />[[sexual frustration]], [[SEAmaxx\|SEAmaxxing]], Escortmaxxing</small>
	\|-		\|-
	\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|[[1/10\|1]]		\| style="border-right: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|[[1/10\|1]]
	\| colspan="3" \|[[Truecel]] <small>([[Omega male]])</small>		\| colspan="3" \|[[Truecel]] <small>([[Omega male]])</small>
	\| colspan="3" \|[[Truefemcel]] <small>([[Omega female]])</small>		\| colspan="3" \|[[Truefemcel]] <small>([[Omega female]])</small>
	\| colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="border-left: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|<small>[[Inceldom spectrum]],~~<br />~~[[NEET]], [[sexual frustration\|sexual frustration,]]</~~small~~> Genetic dead end		\| colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="border-left: 2px solid #a2a9b1" \|<small>[[Inceldom spectrum]],[[NEET]], [[sexual frustration\|sexual frustration]],<br />[[SEAmaxx\|SEAmaxxing]], Escortmaxxing, Genetic dead end</small>
	\|}		\|}

	== Correlation with Data ==		== Correlation with Data ==
	According to the works from OkCupid<ref name=":0" />, people who are rated 5 or above are the top 20% of the population, and those that are rated higher than the 7.5 range are the top 4% of the population (thus follows the [[80/20 Rule]]). Also as a side note, the population median is ~2.75, the 20th percentile is ~1, and the 4th percentile is ~0.25.		According to the works from OkCupid<ref name=":0" />, people who are rated 5 or above are the top 20% of the population, and those that are rated higher than the 7.5 range are the top 4% of the population (thus follows the [[80/20 Rule]]). Also as a side note, the population median is ~2.75, the 20th percentile is ~1, and the 4th percentile is ~0.25.