https://incels.wiki/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=Mikey&feedformat=atomIncel Wiki - User contributions [en]2024-03-28T19:21:16ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.39.5https://incels.wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:William&diff=47987User talk:William2020-02-19T00:05:05Z<p>Mikey: /* Holy fucking shit */</p>
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<div>== Holy fucking shit ==<br />
I never imagined i would meet so many pathetic people together, but this might be the most impressive case of all. A bunch of losers claiming that it'ssociety's and female's fault that you can't have sex. Really? Dude, let me put something straight here: No one is entitled to you. No one has moral obligations on fucking with you, because that implies sex is a necessity. Learn something: Sex and relationships are something that happens naturally when two or more people love each other. The idea that a "androgynous gift economy" is something that has any basis, nevermind would work (What the fuck does that even mean?) is not only idiotic, but outright laughable. Really, get some fucking help. I don't hate you. I pity your existence and the fact that you have wrapped yourself in a bubble thinking that you will never have sex (Or worse, the idea that you morally REQUIRE sex) just because you are ugly. <br />
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Oh, and the incel community is "harmless?" Really? How cute. Tell that to these guys: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Incel#Notable_suicides_and_homicides . By the very nature of inceldom of blaming society and on the fallacious idea that "chads" are the only ones who have sex (And that you morally require it) is just pathetic.<br />
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:Will your the crazyest man i've ever met in my life. L.A.R.P.I.N.G. as an angry commentor on yur own post Lmfao. What random angry, normal person is gonna use perfect wikipedia syntax? Hilarious [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 00:03, 19 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Holy fucking shit ==<br />
I never imagined i would meet so many pathetic people together, but this might be the most impressive case of all. A bunch of losers claiming that it'ssociety's and female's fault that you can't have sex. Really? Dude, let me put something straight here: No one is entitled to you. No one has moral obligations on fucking with you, because that implies sex is a necessity. Learn something: Sex and relationships are something that happens naturally when two or more people love each other. The idea that a "androgynous gift economy" is something that has any basis, nevermind would work (What the fuck does that even mean?) is not only idiotic, but outright laughable. Really, get some fucking help. I don't hate you. I pity your existence and the fact that you have wrapped yourself in a bubble thinking that you will never have sex (Or worse, the idea that you morally REQUIRE sex) just because you are ugly. <br />
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Oh, and the incel community is "harmless?" Really? How cute. Tell that to these guys: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Incel#Notable_suicides_and_homicides . By the very nature of inceldom of blaming society and on the fallacious idea that "chads" are the only ones who have sex (And that you morally require it) is just pathetic.<br />
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:Will your the crazyest man i've ever met in my life. L.A.R.P.I.N.G. as an angry commentor on yur own post Lmfao. What random angry, normal person is gonna use perfect wikipedia syntax? Hilarious [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 00:04, 19 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Holy fucking shit ==<br />
I never imagined i would meet so many pathetic people together, but this might be the most impressive case of all. A bunch of losers claiming that it'ssociety's and female's fault that you can't have sex. Really? Dude, let me put something straight here: No one is entitled to you. No one has moral obligations on fucking with you, because that implies sex is a necessity. Learn something: Sex and relationships are something that happens naturally when two or more people love each other. The idea that a "androgynous gift economy" is something that has any basis, nevermind would work (What the fuck does that even mean?) is not only idiotic, but outright laughable. Really, get some fucking help. I don't hate you. I pity your existence and the fact that you have wrapped yourself in a bubble thinking that you will never have sex (Or worse, the idea that you morally REQUIRE sex) just because you are ugly. <br />
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Oh, and the incel community is "harmless?" Really? How cute. Tell that to these guys: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Incel#Notable_suicides_and_homicides . By the very nature of inceldom of blaming society and on the fallacious idea that "chads" are the only ones who have sex (And that you morally require it) is just pathetic.<br />
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:Will your the crazyest man i've ever met in my life. L.A.R.P.I.N.G. as an angry commentor on yur own post Lmfao. What random angry, normal person is gonna use perfect wikipedia syntax? Hilarious [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 00:05, 19 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==Discord invite==<br />
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Hello there. I got banned from Discord (from the entire service), so I lost your ID and I don't have an invite to your server. I'm starting fresh, I made a new account. Do you mind sending me an invite or your user ID? - [[User:BlackPillBlackBelt|BlackPillBlackBelt]] ([[User talk:BlackPillBlackBelt|talk]]) 02:22, 6 September 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:Incel wiki server link is on the front page where it says create an account, I am @william in there. [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 02:24, 6 September 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Oh sorry, the invite is invalid, lemee make a new one, one sec. [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 02:25, 6 September 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Here is our server https://discord.gg/RjBJZH6 [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 02:26, 6 September 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==PUA stuff==<br />
You are a moron. The true incel behind the computer bashing guys that know what they are talking about. You cant get a woman, so you cry and whine on wiki about men that do. Pathetic.. These techniques work and i have used them successfully to sleep with more women in a week than you have in your sad little life. Get a life loser.<br />
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== [[Incelosphere timeline]] ==<br />
Reverse timeline would be nice! --[[Special:Contributions/5.83.136.21|5.83.136.21]] 10:14, 21 May 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Template:Wikimannia]] ==<br />
The Template is working. If Wikimannia has a different article name than use variable <tt>lemma=differentarticlename</tt> ! ;-) --[[Special:Contributions/5.83.136.21|5.83.136.21]] 03:01, 19 May 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==People have been requesting a copy of The Loser Manifesto==<br />
which is a piece about neetdom. It seems to be one of my more popular essays. [[Special:Contributions/2601:5CD:C000:21E3:104B:995E:6739:DAE6|2601:5CD:C000:21E3:104B:995E:6739:DAE6]] 22:09, 1 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Dark World==<br />
Keep my channel off here idoit. Seriously. I dont want my dark world channel connected here<br />
:If you look at the page history, you will see that I did not write that article. Many people write for this wiki. However, the article is now removed and protected against recreation. I don't know who you are, but I hope you have a nice day.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 16:18, 5 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Hypergamy ==<br />
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First off all, your locking is not very nice, to say the least. You are not even letting me respond on the talk page which is locked too, so I have to do it here. Anyhow, let me go through your points one by one:<br />
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You wrote: "Previous version insinuated female monopoly on sex is due to a natural '''desire''' for men to provide for women".</p><br />
:You've quite frankly misread what I wrote. I wrote "men naturally provide resources to women", not that they ''desire'' to do so. And of course this is a modeling assumption in the two papers I linked, because otherwise women would not need to consider men's resources at all, and men would not be able to "sell" them in exchange for exclusive access to sex. This is even stated in the second paper: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016748701630277X "Human males are essentially unique among primate species in providing resources for their offspring, let alone for the mothers of those offspring (van Creveld, 2013)."</p> [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 00:05, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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You wrote: "IRL relationships, while increasingly unequal, do not follow a pareto distribution and there's nothing you source that suggests so. 80/20 refers to online dating and even then it's not consistently 80/20. Peterson lectures do not count as reliable sources for this sort of tihng. [...] pseudo-religious"<br />
:First off, the changes you are referring to are more than a month old and they replaced way worse stuff. 80/20 on in these OkCupid ratings have nothing to do with hypergamy per se, but it's female choosiness (which is a cause for hypergamy). The fact that women rated 80% below medium from that delete blog post is just coincidentally similar to '''80'''/20 and has nothing directly to do with a Pareto distribution. Hence misleading. [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 00:05, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:Secondly, "Matthew effect" has apart from the etymology and the fact that JP made some pseudo-scientific claims about it, nothing to do with religion, see yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_effect. Admittedly, this was poorly sourced and maybe not the best explanation for the existence of 80/20, but hardly a reason to lock the article. Matthew effects likely do apply to the mating market though and likely affect men more (esp. in combination with female mate-choice copying and the fact that men are held to higher standards). [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 00:05, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:Thirdly, I've seen figures as high as ~68/20 for men (~58/20 for women) based on GSS with a somewhat uncertainty, so 80/20 would be fairly high, but not sure if significantly higher. That's why I wrote "perhaps a bit less extreme", which should be "probably a bit less extreme" (typo). [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 00:05, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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You wrote: "Nothing in that citation about a "bodyguard hypothesis", and if there was it would have been about preference or history, not about what is objectively better for the woman)"<br />
:If you read closely, the article does make related points: "Women generally prefer men with physical traits [...], although these same physical traits also are an indication of the man’s ability to protect her and her offspring from other men." Bodyguard hypothesis is about evolved preferences, not history, and there are better citations that one could also link, e.g. https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4615-5985-6_21 [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 00:05, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:Ok your points are taken. If you edit a large, finished page again, please use the talk page with other writers. Eg, don't just write on the talk page "Im changing all this now". But post what you want to change and why and wait for responses from others. This only applies to large and important and finished" pages. Adding those CDC statistics, as well as the ones that are not as pronounced, as you mentioned those are the most extreme, would be welcome. <br />
:On a separate note, there seems to be a misunderstanding from people about how this wiki came into existence. It did not come into existence because Wikipedia wouldn't allow "blackpills". Wikipedia has no problem with "blackpills". None at all. The reason this wiki exists is because of the war on Wikipedia about whether to consider incel a belief system or a life circumstance without an ideology. The latter camp created this wiki. Things that lean towards the former will always be harshly dealed with here. The purpose of this wiki is therefore to combat false stereotypes about incels such as "incels believe 20% of the men get 80% of the women IRL". Combatting stereotypes about incels Wikipedia does not allow, and is why this wiki exists and the stereotype-combatting content is ultimately the only thing that makes this wiki valuable imo. [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 11:09, 6 November 2019 (UTC) [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 10:51, 6 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Unlock==<br />
Could you please unlock the [[Talk:Hypergamy]]? [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 04:49, 12 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:It's unlocked now [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 05:31, 12 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Still delete ==<br />
The file somehow still exists even though you have deleted it? https://incels.wiki/w/File:0dqjkcRdgMa62RB.mp4 I accidentally linked the talk page previously [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 01:17, 13 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Issues on main page ==<br />
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https://incels.wiki/w/Talk:Main_Page#15-30.25_incels and https://incels.wiki/w/Talk:Main_Page#Outdated_link_for_incel_definition in case you didnt see it[[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 00:56, 13 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== italian translation ==<br />
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I'm not the guy who expressed interest in translating incels.wiki, however I think it's a great idea to translate the wiki in other languages and I'm willing to translate pages in italian.<br />
:We should only translate articles that are really finished. IMO very few, even only few A-class articles are finished. Otherwise we will end up propagating (factual) corrections to all translations, multiplying the work. We should perhaps create a new category called "99.9% finished articles".[[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 22:44, 13 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:@Lorsss thank you, yes all the admins are interested in such a possibility. However they do not need to be direct translations and you would have a lot of leeway. [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 00:36, 14 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== I'm gonna redact that screenshot for now ==<br />
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Don't want to tip him off quite yet as to how much we know. [[Special:Contributions/2601:5CD:C200:9BE0:7437:FDB8:18C4:D4B|2601:5CD:C200:9BE0:7437:FDB8:18C4:D4B]] 02:24, 14 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:who are you lol? [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 02:29, 14 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== braincels archive ==<br />
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i sent you the archive on discord [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 22:13, 20 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Please unblock [[Talk:Blackpill]] ==<br />
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[[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 19:11, 3 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Social media pics ==<br />
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https://incels.wiki/w/File_talk:Hypergamy4.png<br />
https://incels.wiki/w/File_talk:Hypergamy7.png<br />
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I think neither of them would be usable if the faces would be anonymized, so i suggest delete [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 10:02, 4 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==I want to know if you would upload this seven second video==<br />
Hi there, I noticed you have uploaded many images to the wiki.<br />
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Would you happen to know if it would support the addition of short video clips?<br />
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I was hoping you might include [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eVSNd2ddFI this clip] from Kingdom Hearts to the [[it's over]] article. [[User:Wizard32|Wiz]] ([[User talk:Wizard32|talk]]) 21:45, 6 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
:We only upload videos with a license to upload (creative commons etc). If you think something is copyrighted but Fair Use, you can find it on or upload it to an external site and embed it onto the wiki using this extension which is on the wiki, instructions here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EmbedVideo [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 22:18, 6 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==unnamed topic==<br />
Like [https://incels.wiki/w/index.php?diff=40596 this]? [[User:Wizard32|Wiz]] ([[User talk:Wizard32|talk]]) 21:20, 13 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Yea that works. I would also test pages that use youtube vids on mobile as sometimes it messes up layout. Althoug youtube vids do not fit on mobile in general for some reason.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 23:52, 13 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Thanx! ==<br />
Thanx for letting me be a wiki writer buddy, I'm so thankful. Been searching for years on the cause(s) of my condition. Cannot thank you enough.<br />
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[[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 04:46, 15 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Traps policy==<br />
Re [[:File:6.jpg]] used on [[transcel]] article.<br />
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Does https://incels.co/threads/rules-terminology-and-faq.799/ "Disallowed: Traps and gay content." apply here?<br />
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If so, then is the reason we can display this basically because as long as a tranny is accompanied by a disclaimer explaining they are a tranny, it isn't actually a trap?<br />
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IE it has to be misrepresented as cisgirl instead of transgirl to qualify as trap? [[User:Wizard32|Wiz]] ([[User talk:Wizard32|talk]]) 21:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
:This is not incels.co or incelistan.net, it's a multi-forum/person project. Our wiki rules section is on the sidebar. We don't allow gay propaganda or unsourced shit, but LGBTQ pages are allowed in extreme moderation (right now I think 5-6 articles). Nothing wrong with that image as its relevant to the page and funny (pic came from braincels). At the end of the day we are a wiki that covers everything to do with incel. So if there's incels who are trans, we cover it. If there's incels who say they became gay or trans from inceldom, we cover it. But yes I do delete a lot of LGBTQ stuff, especially if it is baseless or propaganda. The wiki has hundreds of images, one is a 'trap', I think we'll be ok. [https://incels.wiki/w/Editing_rules,_account_creation,_and_other_info#Editing_Rules Here is our rules section] [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 01:19, 16 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==CQ policy==<br />
I would like to write about [[cuckquean]]s and [[cuckquean fetishism]] but I am not sure if I should add that to our existing article about [[cuckoldry]] or to make a separate one.<br />
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I've read some of their image boards and they seem to have their own vocabulary. Like for example instead of a "[[bull]]" (male cow) (term for man who a cuckold's wife cheats with) they use the term [[vixen]] (female fox) to refer to the woman their man cheats with.<br />
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These communities largely seem to be pseudo-cuck in nature (ie they consent for their husbands to fuck other women, rather than being victims of this happening without their consent) although the nature of erotica seems to be about discovering Chad seducing women (or getting seduced by them) without their knowledge and walking in on it and silently watching.<br />
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There was a /cuckquean/ on [[8chan]] for awhile but it has since moved to other hosts since that site was taken down. [[User:Wizard32|Wiz]] ([[User talk:Wizard32|talk]]) 21:07, 17 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Would add it to the cuck article instead of creating a new page[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 21:46, 17 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Search tool ==<br />
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[[User:Bibipi/Search_tool]] [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 12:05, 19 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks, very cool [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 15:14, 19 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Discord link expired ==<br />
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again [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 02:08, 30 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
:up to Master if he wants to update it, I don't own that server anymore, transferred it to him and Altmark months ago[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 03:23, 30 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Thanks Will==<br />
A happy new year to you! [[User:Wizard32|Wiz]] ([[User talk:Wizard32|talk]]) 20:14, 31 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
: Yeah happy new one everyone [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 22:27, 31 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Bad behavior by Mikey ==<br />
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I don't enjoy complaining, but Mikey has reverted valid edits of mine and has removed pics from the beauty article: https://incels.wiki/w/User_talk:Mikey#Bad_edits I suggest a 1-week ban. [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 17:31, 30 January 2020 (UTC)</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:William&diff=47986User talk:William2020-02-19T00:04:16Z<p>Mikey: /* Holy fucking shit */</p>
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<div>== Holy fucking shit ==<br />
I never imagined i would meet so many pathetic people together, but this might be the most impressive case of all. A bunch of losers claiming that it'ssociety's and female's fault that you can't have sex. Really? Dude, let me put something straight here: No one is entitled to you. No one has moral obligations on fucking with you, because that implies sex is a necessity. Learn something: Sex and relationships are something that happens naturally when two or more people love each other. The idea that a "androgynous gift economy" is something that has any basis, nevermind would work (What the fuck does that even mean?) is not only idiotic, but outright laughable. Really, get some fucking help. I don't hate you. I pity your existence and the fact that you have wrapped yourself in a bubble thinking that you will never have sex (Or worse, the idea that you morally REQUIRE sex) just because you are ugly. <br />
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Oh, and the incel community is "harmless?" Really? How cute. Tell that to these guys: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Incel#Notable_suicides_and_homicides . By the very nature of inceldom of blaming society and on the fallacious idea that "chads" are the only ones who have sex (And that you morally require it) is just pathetic.<br />
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:Will your the crazyest man i've ever met in my life. L.A.R.P.I.N.G. as an angry commentor on yur own post Lmfao. What random angry, normal person is gonna use perfect wikipedia syntax? Hilarious [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 00:03, 19 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Holy fucking shit ==<br />
I never imagined i would meet so many pathetic people together, but this might be the most impressive case of all. A bunch of losers claiming that it'ssociety's and female's fault that you can't have sex. Really? Dude, let me put something straight here: No one is entitled to you. No one has moral obligations on fucking with you, because that implies sex is a necessity. Learn something: Sex and relationships are something that happens naturally when two or more people love each other. The idea that a "androgynous gift economy" is something that has any basis, nevermind would work (What the fuck does that even mean?) is not only idiotic, but outright laughable. Really, get some fucking help. I don't hate you. I pity your existence and the fact that you have wrapped yourself in a bubble thinking that you will never have sex (Or worse, the idea that you morally REQUIRE sex) just because you are ugly. <br />
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Oh, and the incel community is "harmless?" Really? How cute. Tell that to these guys: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Incel#Notable_suicides_and_homicides . By the very nature of inceldom of blaming society and on the fallacious idea that "chads" are the only ones who have sex (And that you morally require it) is just pathetic.<br />
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:Will your the crazyest man i've ever met in my life. L.A.R.P.I.N.G. as an angry commentor on yur own post Lmfao. What random angry, normal person is gonna use perfect wikipedia syntax? Hilarious [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 00:04, 19 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Holy fucking shit ==<br />
I never imagined i would meet so many pathetic people together, but this might be the most impressive case of all. A bunch of losers claiming that it'ssociety's and female's fault that you can't have sex. Really? Dude, let me put something straight here: No one is entitled to you. No one has moral obligations on fucking with you, because that implies sex is a necessity. Learn something: Sex and relationships are something that happens naturally when two or more people love each other. The idea that a "androgynous gift economy" is something that has any basis, nevermind would work (What the fuck does that even mean?) is not only idiotic, but outright laughable. Really, get some fucking help. I don't hate you. I pity your existence and the fact that you have wrapped yourself in a bubble thinking that you will never have sex (Or worse, the idea that you morally REQUIRE sex) just because you are ugly. <br />
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Oh, and the incel community is "harmless?" Really? How cute. Tell that to these guys: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Incel#Notable_suicides_and_homicides . By the very nature of inceldom of blaming society and on the fallacious idea that "chads" are the only ones who have sex (And that you morally require it) is just pathetic.<br />
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==Discord invite==<br />
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Hello there. I got banned from Discord (from the entire service), so I lost your ID and I don't have an invite to your server. I'm starting fresh, I made a new account. Do you mind sending me an invite or your user ID? - [[User:BlackPillBlackBelt|BlackPillBlackBelt]] ([[User talk:BlackPillBlackBelt|talk]]) 02:22, 6 September 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:Incel wiki server link is on the front page where it says create an account, I am @william in there. [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 02:24, 6 September 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Oh sorry, the invite is invalid, lemee make a new one, one sec. [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 02:25, 6 September 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Here is our server https://discord.gg/RjBJZH6 [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 02:26, 6 September 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==PUA stuff==<br />
You are a moron. The true incel behind the computer bashing guys that know what they are talking about. You cant get a woman, so you cry and whine on wiki about men that do. Pathetic.. These techniques work and i have used them successfully to sleep with more women in a week than you have in your sad little life. Get a life loser.<br />
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== [[Incelosphere timeline]] ==<br />
Reverse timeline would be nice! --[[Special:Contributions/5.83.136.21|5.83.136.21]] 10:14, 21 May 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Template:Wikimannia]] ==<br />
The Template is working. If Wikimannia has a different article name than use variable <tt>lemma=differentarticlename</tt> ! ;-) --[[Special:Contributions/5.83.136.21|5.83.136.21]] 03:01, 19 May 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==People have been requesting a copy of The Loser Manifesto==<br />
which is a piece about neetdom. It seems to be one of my more popular essays. [[Special:Contributions/2601:5CD:C000:21E3:104B:995E:6739:DAE6|2601:5CD:C000:21E3:104B:995E:6739:DAE6]] 22:09, 1 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Dark World==<br />
Keep my channel off here idoit. Seriously. I dont want my dark world channel connected here<br />
:If you look at the page history, you will see that I did not write that article. Many people write for this wiki. However, the article is now removed and protected against recreation. I don't know who you are, but I hope you have a nice day.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 16:18, 5 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Hypergamy ==<br />
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First off all, your locking is not very nice, to say the least. You are not even letting me respond on the talk page which is locked too, so I have to do it here. Anyhow, let me go through your points one by one:<br />
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You wrote: "Previous version insinuated female monopoly on sex is due to a natural '''desire''' for men to provide for women".</p><br />
:You've quite frankly misread what I wrote. I wrote "men naturally provide resources to women", not that they ''desire'' to do so. And of course this is a modeling assumption in the two papers I linked, because otherwise women would not need to consider men's resources at all, and men would not be able to "sell" them in exchange for exclusive access to sex. This is even stated in the second paper: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016748701630277X "Human males are essentially unique among primate species in providing resources for their offspring, let alone for the mothers of those offspring (van Creveld, 2013)."</p> [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 00:05, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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You wrote: "IRL relationships, while increasingly unequal, do not follow a pareto distribution and there's nothing you source that suggests so. 80/20 refers to online dating and even then it's not consistently 80/20. Peterson lectures do not count as reliable sources for this sort of tihng. [...] pseudo-religious"<br />
:First off, the changes you are referring to are more than a month old and they replaced way worse stuff. 80/20 on in these OkCupid ratings have nothing to do with hypergamy per se, but it's female choosiness (which is a cause for hypergamy). The fact that women rated 80% below medium from that delete blog post is just coincidentally similar to '''80'''/20 and has nothing directly to do with a Pareto distribution. Hence misleading. [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 00:05, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:Secondly, "Matthew effect" has apart from the etymology and the fact that JP made some pseudo-scientific claims about it, nothing to do with religion, see yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_effect. Admittedly, this was poorly sourced and maybe not the best explanation for the existence of 80/20, but hardly a reason to lock the article. Matthew effects likely do apply to the mating market though and likely affect men more (esp. in combination with female mate-choice copying and the fact that men are held to higher standards). [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 00:05, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:Thirdly, I've seen figures as high as ~68/20 for men (~58/20 for women) based on GSS with a somewhat uncertainty, so 80/20 would be fairly high, but not sure if significantly higher. That's why I wrote "perhaps a bit less extreme", which should be "probably a bit less extreme" (typo). [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 00:05, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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You wrote: "Nothing in that citation about a "bodyguard hypothesis", and if there was it would have been about preference or history, not about what is objectively better for the woman)"<br />
:If you read closely, the article does make related points: "Women generally prefer men with physical traits [...], although these same physical traits also are an indication of the man’s ability to protect her and her offspring from other men." Bodyguard hypothesis is about evolved preferences, not history, and there are better citations that one could also link, e.g. https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4615-5985-6_21 [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 00:05, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:Ok your points are taken. If you edit a large, finished page again, please use the talk page with other writers. Eg, don't just write on the talk page "Im changing all this now". But post what you want to change and why and wait for responses from others. This only applies to large and important and finished" pages. Adding those CDC statistics, as well as the ones that are not as pronounced, as you mentioned those are the most extreme, would be welcome. <br />
:On a separate note, there seems to be a misunderstanding from people about how this wiki came into existence. It did not come into existence because Wikipedia wouldn't allow "blackpills". Wikipedia has no problem with "blackpills". None at all. The reason this wiki exists is because of the war on Wikipedia about whether to consider incel a belief system or a life circumstance without an ideology. The latter camp created this wiki. Things that lean towards the former will always be harshly dealed with here. The purpose of this wiki is therefore to combat false stereotypes about incels such as "incels believe 20% of the men get 80% of the women IRL". Combatting stereotypes about incels Wikipedia does not allow, and is why this wiki exists and the stereotype-combatting content is ultimately the only thing that makes this wiki valuable imo. [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 11:09, 6 November 2019 (UTC) [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 10:51, 6 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Unlock==<br />
Could you please unlock the [[Talk:Hypergamy]]? [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 04:49, 12 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:It's unlocked now [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 05:31, 12 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Still delete ==<br />
The file somehow still exists even though you have deleted it? https://incels.wiki/w/File:0dqjkcRdgMa62RB.mp4 I accidentally linked the talk page previously [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 01:17, 13 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Issues on main page ==<br />
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https://incels.wiki/w/Talk:Main_Page#15-30.25_incels and https://incels.wiki/w/Talk:Main_Page#Outdated_link_for_incel_definition in case you didnt see it[[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 00:56, 13 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== italian translation ==<br />
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I'm not the guy who expressed interest in translating incels.wiki, however I think it's a great idea to translate the wiki in other languages and I'm willing to translate pages in italian.<br />
:We should only translate articles that are really finished. IMO very few, even only few A-class articles are finished. Otherwise we will end up propagating (factual) corrections to all translations, multiplying the work. We should perhaps create a new category called "99.9% finished articles".[[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 22:44, 13 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:@Lorsss thank you, yes all the admins are interested in such a possibility. However they do not need to be direct translations and you would have a lot of leeway. [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 00:36, 14 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== I'm gonna redact that screenshot for now ==<br />
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Don't want to tip him off quite yet as to how much we know. [[Special:Contributions/2601:5CD:C200:9BE0:7437:FDB8:18C4:D4B|2601:5CD:C200:9BE0:7437:FDB8:18C4:D4B]] 02:24, 14 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:who are you lol? [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 02:29, 14 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== braincels archive ==<br />
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i sent you the archive on discord [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 22:13, 20 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Please unblock [[Talk:Blackpill]] ==<br />
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[[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 19:11, 3 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Social media pics ==<br />
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I think neither of them would be usable if the faces would be anonymized, so i suggest delete [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 10:02, 4 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==I want to know if you would upload this seven second video==<br />
Hi there, I noticed you have uploaded many images to the wiki.<br />
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Would you happen to know if it would support the addition of short video clips?<br />
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I was hoping you might include [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eVSNd2ddFI this clip] from Kingdom Hearts to the [[it's over]] article. [[User:Wizard32|Wiz]] ([[User talk:Wizard32|talk]]) 21:45, 6 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
:We only upload videos with a license to upload (creative commons etc). If you think something is copyrighted but Fair Use, you can find it on or upload it to an external site and embed it onto the wiki using this extension which is on the wiki, instructions here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EmbedVideo [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 22:18, 6 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==unnamed topic==<br />
Like [https://incels.wiki/w/index.php?diff=40596 this]? [[User:Wizard32|Wiz]] ([[User talk:Wizard32|talk]]) 21:20, 13 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Yea that works. I would also test pages that use youtube vids on mobile as sometimes it messes up layout. Althoug youtube vids do not fit on mobile in general for some reason.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 23:52, 13 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Thanx! ==<br />
Thanx for letting me be a wiki writer buddy, I'm so thankful. Been searching for years on the cause(s) of my condition. Cannot thank you enough.<br />
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[[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 04:46, 15 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Traps policy==<br />
Re [[:File:6.jpg]] used on [[transcel]] article.<br />
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Does https://incels.co/threads/rules-terminology-and-faq.799/ "Disallowed: Traps and gay content." apply here?<br />
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If so, then is the reason we can display this basically because as long as a tranny is accompanied by a disclaimer explaining they are a tranny, it isn't actually a trap?<br />
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IE it has to be misrepresented as cisgirl instead of transgirl to qualify as trap? [[User:Wizard32|Wiz]] ([[User talk:Wizard32|talk]]) 21:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
:This is not incels.co or incelistan.net, it's a multi-forum/person project. Our wiki rules section is on the sidebar. We don't allow gay propaganda or unsourced shit, but LGBTQ pages are allowed in extreme moderation (right now I think 5-6 articles). Nothing wrong with that image as its relevant to the page and funny (pic came from braincels). At the end of the day we are a wiki that covers everything to do with incel. So if there's incels who are trans, we cover it. If there's incels who say they became gay or trans from inceldom, we cover it. But yes I do delete a lot of LGBTQ stuff, especially if it is baseless or propaganda. The wiki has hundreds of images, one is a 'trap', I think we'll be ok. [https://incels.wiki/w/Editing_rules,_account_creation,_and_other_info#Editing_Rules Here is our rules section] [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 01:19, 16 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==CQ policy==<br />
I would like to write about [[cuckquean]]s and [[cuckquean fetishism]] but I am not sure if I should add that to our existing article about [[cuckoldry]] or to make a separate one.<br />
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I've read some of their image boards and they seem to have their own vocabulary. Like for example instead of a "[[bull]]" (male cow) (term for man who a cuckold's wife cheats with) they use the term [[vixen]] (female fox) to refer to the woman their man cheats with.<br />
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These communities largely seem to be pseudo-cuck in nature (ie they consent for their husbands to fuck other women, rather than being victims of this happening without their consent) although the nature of erotica seems to be about discovering Chad seducing women (or getting seduced by them) without their knowledge and walking in on it and silently watching.<br />
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There was a /cuckquean/ on [[8chan]] for awhile but it has since moved to other hosts since that site was taken down. [[User:Wizard32|Wiz]] ([[User talk:Wizard32|talk]]) 21:07, 17 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Would add it to the cuck article instead of creating a new page[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 21:46, 17 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Search tool ==<br />
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[[User:Bibipi/Search_tool]] [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 12:05, 19 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks, very cool [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 15:14, 19 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Discord link expired ==<br />
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again [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 02:08, 30 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
:up to Master if he wants to update it, I don't own that server anymore, transferred it to him and Altmark months ago[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 03:23, 30 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Thanks Will==<br />
A happy new year to you! [[User:Wizard32|Wiz]] ([[User talk:Wizard32|talk]]) 20:14, 31 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
: Yeah happy new one everyone [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 22:27, 31 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Bad behavior by Mikey ==<br />
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I don't enjoy complaining, but Mikey has reverted valid edits of mine and has removed pics from the beauty article: https://incels.wiki/w/User_talk:Mikey#Bad_edits I suggest a 1-week ban. [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 17:31, 30 January 2020 (UTC)</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:William&diff=47985User talk:William2020-02-19T00:03:51Z<p>Mikey: /* Holy fucking shit */</p>
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<div>== Holy fucking shit ==<br />
I never imagined i would meet so many pathetic people together, but this might be the most impressive case of all. A bunch of losers claiming that it'ssociety's and female's fault that you can't have sex. Really? Dude, let me put something straight here: No one is entitled to you. No one has moral obligations on fucking with you, because that implies sex is a necessity. Learn something: Sex and relationships are something that happens naturally when two or more people love each other. The idea that a "androgynous gift economy" is something that has any basis, nevermind would work (What the fuck does that even mean?) is not only idiotic, but outright laughable. Really, get some fucking help. I don't hate you. I pity your existence and the fact that you have wrapped yourself in a bubble thinking that you will never have sex (Or worse, the idea that you morally REQUIRE sex) just because you are ugly. <br />
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Oh, and the incel community is "harmless?" Really? How cute. Tell that to these guys: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Incel#Notable_suicides_and_homicides . By the very nature of inceldom of blaming society and on the fallacious idea that "chads" are the only ones who have sex (And that you morally require it) is just pathetic.<br />
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:Will your the crazyest man i've ever met in my life. L.A.R.P.I.N.G. as an angry commentor on yur own post Lmfao. What random angry, normal person is gonna use perfect wikipedia syntax? Hilarious [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 00:03, 19 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Holy fucking shit ==<br />
I never imagined i would meet so many pathetic people together, but this might be the most impressive case of all. A bunch of losers claiming that it'ssociety's and female's fault that you can't have sex. Really? Dude, let me put something straight here: No one is entitled to you. No one has moral obligations on fucking with you, because that implies sex is a necessity. Learn something: Sex and relationships are something that happens naturally when two or more people love each other. The idea that a "androgynous gift economy" is something that has any basis, nevermind would work (What the fuck does that even mean?) is not only idiotic, but outright laughable. Really, get some fucking help. I don't hate you. I pity your existence and the fact that you have wrapped yourself in a bubble thinking that you will never have sex (Or worse, the idea that you morally REQUIRE sex) just because you are ugly. <br />
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Oh, and the incel community is "harmless?" Really? How cute. Tell that to these guys: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Incel#Notable_suicides_and_homicides . By the very nature of inceldom of blaming society and on the fallacious idea that "chads" are the only ones who have sex (And that you morally require it) is just pathetic.<br />
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== Holy fucking shit ==<br />
I never imagined i would meet so many pathetic people together, but this might be the most impressive case of all. A bunch of losers claiming that it'ssociety's and female's fault that you can't have sex. Really? Dude, let me put something straight here: No one is entitled to you. No one has moral obligations on fucking with you, because that implies sex is a necessity. Learn something: Sex and relationships are something that happens naturally when two or more people love each other. The idea that a "androgynous gift economy" is something that has any basis, nevermind would work (What the fuck does that even mean?) is not only idiotic, but outright laughable. Really, get some fucking help. I don't hate you. I pity your existence and the fact that you have wrapped yourself in a bubble thinking that you will never have sex (Or worse, the idea that you morally REQUIRE sex) just because you are ugly. <br />
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Oh, and the incel community is "harmless?" Really? How cute. Tell that to these guys: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Incel#Notable_suicides_and_homicides . By the very nature of inceldom of blaming society and on the fallacious idea that "chads" are the only ones who have sex (And that you morally require it) is just pathetic.<br />
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==Discord invite==<br />
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Hello there. I got banned from Discord (from the entire service), so I lost your ID and I don't have an invite to your server. I'm starting fresh, I made a new account. Do you mind sending me an invite or your user ID? - [[User:BlackPillBlackBelt|BlackPillBlackBelt]] ([[User talk:BlackPillBlackBelt|talk]]) 02:22, 6 September 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:Incel wiki server link is on the front page where it says create an account, I am @william in there. [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 02:24, 6 September 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Oh sorry, the invite is invalid, lemee make a new one, one sec. [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 02:25, 6 September 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Here is our server https://discord.gg/RjBJZH6 [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 02:26, 6 September 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==PUA stuff==<br />
You are a moron. The true incel behind the computer bashing guys that know what they are talking about. You cant get a woman, so you cry and whine on wiki about men that do. Pathetic.. These techniques work and i have used them successfully to sleep with more women in a week than you have in your sad little life. Get a life loser.<br />
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== [[Incelosphere timeline]] ==<br />
Reverse timeline would be nice! --[[Special:Contributions/5.83.136.21|5.83.136.21]] 10:14, 21 May 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== [[Template:Wikimannia]] ==<br />
The Template is working. If Wikimannia has a different article name than use variable <tt>lemma=differentarticlename</tt> ! ;-) --[[Special:Contributions/5.83.136.21|5.83.136.21]] 03:01, 19 May 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==People have been requesting a copy of The Loser Manifesto==<br />
which is a piece about neetdom. It seems to be one of my more popular essays. [[Special:Contributions/2601:5CD:C000:21E3:104B:995E:6739:DAE6|2601:5CD:C000:21E3:104B:995E:6739:DAE6]] 22:09, 1 November 2018 (UTC)<br />
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==Dark World==<br />
Keep my channel off here idoit. Seriously. I dont want my dark world channel connected here<br />
:If you look at the page history, you will see that I did not write that article. Many people write for this wiki. However, the article is now removed and protected against recreation. I don't know who you are, but I hope you have a nice day.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 16:18, 5 June 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Hypergamy ==<br />
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First off all, your locking is not very nice, to say the least. You are not even letting me respond on the talk page which is locked too, so I have to do it here. Anyhow, let me go through your points one by one:<br />
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You wrote: "Previous version insinuated female monopoly on sex is due to a natural '''desire''' for men to provide for women".</p><br />
:You've quite frankly misread what I wrote. I wrote "men naturally provide resources to women", not that they ''desire'' to do so. And of course this is a modeling assumption in the two papers I linked, because otherwise women would not need to consider men's resources at all, and men would not be able to "sell" them in exchange for exclusive access to sex. This is even stated in the second paper: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016748701630277X "Human males are essentially unique among primate species in providing resources for their offspring, let alone for the mothers of those offspring (van Creveld, 2013)."</p> [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 00:05, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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You wrote: "IRL relationships, while increasingly unequal, do not follow a pareto distribution and there's nothing you source that suggests so. 80/20 refers to online dating and even then it's not consistently 80/20. Peterson lectures do not count as reliable sources for this sort of tihng. [...] pseudo-religious"<br />
:First off, the changes you are referring to are more than a month old and they replaced way worse stuff. 80/20 on in these OkCupid ratings have nothing to do with hypergamy per se, but it's female choosiness (which is a cause for hypergamy). The fact that women rated 80% below medium from that delete blog post is just coincidentally similar to '''80'''/20 and has nothing directly to do with a Pareto distribution. Hence misleading. [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 00:05, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:Secondly, "Matthew effect" has apart from the etymology and the fact that JP made some pseudo-scientific claims about it, nothing to do with religion, see yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_effect. Admittedly, this was poorly sourced and maybe not the best explanation for the existence of 80/20, but hardly a reason to lock the article. Matthew effects likely do apply to the mating market though and likely affect men more (esp. in combination with female mate-choice copying and the fact that men are held to higher standards). [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 00:05, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:Thirdly, I've seen figures as high as ~68/20 for men (~58/20 for women) based on GSS with a somewhat uncertainty, so 80/20 would be fairly high, but not sure if significantly higher. That's why I wrote "perhaps a bit less extreme", which should be "probably a bit less extreme" (typo). [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 00:05, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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You wrote: "Nothing in that citation about a "bodyguard hypothesis", and if there was it would have been about preference or history, not about what is objectively better for the woman)"<br />
:If you read closely, the article does make related points: "Women generally prefer men with physical traits [...], although these same physical traits also are an indication of the man’s ability to protect her and her offspring from other men." Bodyguard hypothesis is about evolved preferences, not history, and there are better citations that one could also link, e.g. https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4615-5985-6_21 [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 00:05, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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:Ok your points are taken. If you edit a large, finished page again, please use the talk page with other writers. Eg, don't just write on the talk page "Im changing all this now". But post what you want to change and why and wait for responses from others. This only applies to large and important and finished" pages. Adding those CDC statistics, as well as the ones that are not as pronounced, as you mentioned those are the most extreme, would be welcome. <br />
:On a separate note, there seems to be a misunderstanding from people about how this wiki came into existence. It did not come into existence because Wikipedia wouldn't allow "blackpills". Wikipedia has no problem with "blackpills". None at all. The reason this wiki exists is because of the war on Wikipedia about whether to consider incel a belief system or a life circumstance without an ideology. The latter camp created this wiki. Things that lean towards the former will always be harshly dealed with here. The purpose of this wiki is therefore to combat false stereotypes about incels such as "incels believe 20% of the men get 80% of the women IRL". Combatting stereotypes about incels Wikipedia does not allow, and is why this wiki exists and the stereotype-combatting content is ultimately the only thing that makes this wiki valuable imo. [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 11:09, 6 November 2019 (UTC) [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 10:51, 6 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Unlock==<br />
Could you please unlock the [[Talk:Hypergamy]]? [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 04:49, 12 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:It's unlocked now [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 05:31, 12 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Still delete ==<br />
The file somehow still exists even though you have deleted it? https://incels.wiki/w/File:0dqjkcRdgMa62RB.mp4 I accidentally linked the talk page previously [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 01:17, 13 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Issues on main page ==<br />
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https://incels.wiki/w/Talk:Main_Page#15-30.25_incels and https://incels.wiki/w/Talk:Main_Page#Outdated_link_for_incel_definition in case you didnt see it[[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 00:56, 13 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== italian translation ==<br />
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I'm not the guy who expressed interest in translating incels.wiki, however I think it's a great idea to translate the wiki in other languages and I'm willing to translate pages in italian.<br />
:We should only translate articles that are really finished. IMO very few, even only few A-class articles are finished. Otherwise we will end up propagating (factual) corrections to all translations, multiplying the work. We should perhaps create a new category called "99.9% finished articles".[[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 22:44, 13 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:@Lorsss thank you, yes all the admins are interested in such a possibility. However they do not need to be direct translations and you would have a lot of leeway. [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 00:36, 14 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== I'm gonna redact that screenshot for now ==<br />
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Don't want to tip him off quite yet as to how much we know. [[Special:Contributions/2601:5CD:C200:9BE0:7437:FDB8:18C4:D4B|2601:5CD:C200:9BE0:7437:FDB8:18C4:D4B]] 02:24, 14 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:who are you lol? [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 02:29, 14 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== braincels archive ==<br />
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i sent you the archive on discord [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 22:13, 20 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Please unblock [[Talk:Blackpill]] ==<br />
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[[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 19:11, 3 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Social media pics ==<br />
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https://incels.wiki/w/File_talk:Hypergamy4.png<br />
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I think neither of them would be usable if the faces would be anonymized, so i suggest delete [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 10:02, 4 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==I want to know if you would upload this seven second video==<br />
Hi there, I noticed you have uploaded many images to the wiki.<br />
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Would you happen to know if it would support the addition of short video clips?<br />
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I was hoping you might include [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eVSNd2ddFI this clip] from Kingdom Hearts to the [[it's over]] article. [[User:Wizard32|Wiz]] ([[User talk:Wizard32|talk]]) 21:45, 6 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
:We only upload videos with a license to upload (creative commons etc). If you think something is copyrighted but Fair Use, you can find it on or upload it to an external site and embed it onto the wiki using this extension which is on the wiki, instructions here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EmbedVideo [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 22:18, 6 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==unnamed topic==<br />
Like [https://incels.wiki/w/index.php?diff=40596 this]? [[User:Wizard32|Wiz]] ([[User talk:Wizard32|talk]]) 21:20, 13 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Yea that works. I would also test pages that use youtube vids on mobile as sometimes it messes up layout. Althoug youtube vids do not fit on mobile in general for some reason.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 23:52, 13 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Thanx! ==<br />
Thanx for letting me be a wiki writer buddy, I'm so thankful. Been searching for years on the cause(s) of my condition. Cannot thank you enough.<br />
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[[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 04:46, 15 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Traps policy==<br />
Re [[:File:6.jpg]] used on [[transcel]] article.<br />
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Does https://incels.co/threads/rules-terminology-and-faq.799/ "Disallowed: Traps and gay content." apply here?<br />
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If so, then is the reason we can display this basically because as long as a tranny is accompanied by a disclaimer explaining they are a tranny, it isn't actually a trap?<br />
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IE it has to be misrepresented as cisgirl instead of transgirl to qualify as trap? [[User:Wizard32|Wiz]] ([[User talk:Wizard32|talk]]) 21:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
:This is not incels.co or incelistan.net, it's a multi-forum/person project. Our wiki rules section is on the sidebar. We don't allow gay propaganda or unsourced shit, but LGBTQ pages are allowed in extreme moderation (right now I think 5-6 articles). Nothing wrong with that image as its relevant to the page and funny (pic came from braincels). At the end of the day we are a wiki that covers everything to do with incel. So if there's incels who are trans, we cover it. If there's incels who say they became gay or trans from inceldom, we cover it. But yes I do delete a lot of LGBTQ stuff, especially if it is baseless or propaganda. The wiki has hundreds of images, one is a 'trap', I think we'll be ok. [https://incels.wiki/w/Editing_rules,_account_creation,_and_other_info#Editing_Rules Here is our rules section] [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 01:19, 16 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==CQ policy==<br />
I would like to write about [[cuckquean]]s and [[cuckquean fetishism]] but I am not sure if I should add that to our existing article about [[cuckoldry]] or to make a separate one.<br />
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I've read some of their image boards and they seem to have their own vocabulary. Like for example instead of a "[[bull]]" (male cow) (term for man who a cuckold's wife cheats with) they use the term [[vixen]] (female fox) to refer to the woman their man cheats with.<br />
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These communities largely seem to be pseudo-cuck in nature (ie they consent for their husbands to fuck other women, rather than being victims of this happening without their consent) although the nature of erotica seems to be about discovering Chad seducing women (or getting seduced by them) without their knowledge and walking in on it and silently watching.<br />
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There was a /cuckquean/ on [[8chan]] for awhile but it has since moved to other hosts since that site was taken down. [[User:Wizard32|Wiz]] ([[User talk:Wizard32|talk]]) 21:07, 17 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Would add it to the cuck article instead of creating a new page[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 21:46, 17 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Search tool ==<br />
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[[User:Bibipi/Search_tool]] [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 12:05, 19 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks, very cool [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 15:14, 19 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Discord link expired ==<br />
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again [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 02:08, 30 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
:up to Master if he wants to update it, I don't own that server anymore, transferred it to him and Altmark months ago[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 03:23, 30 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Thanks Will==<br />
A happy new year to you! [[User:Wizard32|Wiz]] ([[User talk:Wizard32|talk]]) 20:14, 31 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
: Yeah happy new one everyone [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 22:27, 31 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== Bad behavior by Mikey ==<br />
<br />
I don't enjoy complaining, but Mikey has reverted valid edits of mine and has removed pics from the beauty article: https://incels.wiki/w/User_talk:Mikey#Bad_edits I suggest a 1-week ban. [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 17:31, 30 January 2020 (UTC)</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Mikey&diff=47983User talk:Mikey2020-02-18T23:02:06Z<p>Mikey: /* Warning #2, no prescriptive writing */</p>
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<div>==Lesson in Mediawiki syntax==<br />
Please include "See Also" links in your article to other articles, as well as "See Also" links from other articles to your article. Without such things, your page becomes an "orphaned page", meaning it is hard for people to access it. If you are confused about how "see also" works on pages, check the source of a page with "see also".<br />
<br />
<br />
Also every new topic on a talk page should have a header (equal sign header) that describes your new topic like how this one has "hello" as the header. Thanks! [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 14:37, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Also replies to comments on talk pages use colons, the amount of colons depending on what comment you are replying to [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 14:40, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
::a reply to a reply uses two colons for example (like this comment, each comment has it's own sig [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 14:40, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:A reply to the initial topic uses one colon and so on, it works like a threaded forum [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 14:40, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Please read up more on mediawiki syntax==<br />
Here's a start https://incels.wiki/w/Talk:Beautiful_speech_pattern <br />
<br />
If you have questions, or want a real-time lesson, just ask [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 15:04, 12 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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kk editing now [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 15:06, 12 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Updated Policy==<br />
Receiving this ping does not necessarily mean you have done something wrong. There seems to be conflict arising from unclear guidelines about humor articles. While it is not possible to fully formalize how humor articles should work, here is a basic summary to be taken in good-faith. [[Incel Wiki:Articles that are not about accuracy|Rule about articles that are not about accuracy]]. [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 13:45, 24 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== different opinions on [[mewing]] page ==<br />
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by [[User:Lorsss]]<br />
===Different opinions on mewing===<br />
<br />
Before my edits this page was definetely supported mewing as effective way to improve one's face, while ignoring the opinion of the majority of [[PSL]] community who don't believe mewing theories. This is why I splitted in two, explaining the opinion of both mewing supporters and both mewing deniers.<br />
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<br />
I quote this guideline of incels.wiki<br />
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''Incel Wiki is inclusionist, not delitionist. We try to preserve other people's writing. If you absolutely hate a page or have a completely different view, you can split controversial pages into two pages, or qualify disagreement in the article itself by saying "x (me) views y as this", however "z views y as this" (more recommended for large articles).''<br />
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You changed the section I wrote about the opinion mewing deniers so that their opinion is considered wrong, thus you made the page biased again.<br />
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* Theres nothing biased about the page, used an reference. Can use more if wanted.<br />
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[[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 15:31, 18 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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===Jaw training===<br />
you also wrote in that page that jaw training is useful to looksmax,<br />
However jaw and masseter training is not a looksmaxing method, but a thing which makes your face worse. The proof of my arguents are Looksmax.me users who undergo surgical masseter reduction and end up being more attractive. In fact masseter is a round muscle which makes your face apperar round, whereas good natural jaw bones are sharp and make your face appear angular<br />
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* Provided a proven reference on the page, could provide many more if needed. post a Link to their posts on the mewing page.<br />
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[[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 15:31, 18 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
===Off topic in mewing page===<br />
in that page you wrote phrases about facial exercise and jaw training, however the topic of this page is mewing, and theese exercises are off-Topic<br />
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*Not off topic, there all facial exercises.<br />
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[[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 15:31, 18 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Subsections==<br />
Do you know how they work?, specifically, <nowiki>===subsection===</nowiki> inside of <nowiki>==section==</nowiki>[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]])<br />
<br />
Like how to use them?<br />
<br />
doesn't this go like<br />
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== Hi my name is Slim Shady ==<br />
Slim Shady is the alter ego of Eminem.<br />
<br />
=== Characteristics ===<br />
* blonde hair<br />
* blue eyes<br />
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[[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 22:04, 25 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Merry Christmas==<br />
Have a happy holidays[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 22:00, 25 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Recent [[It's over]] Edits - Warning #1==<br />
Regarding your section telling men uglier than you to [[LDAR]].<br />
<br />
See [[Editing_rules,_account_creation,_and_other_info#Editing_Rules]]. We do not allow prescriptive type writing, especially that which is malicious towards incels. Regardless of whether it was intended as malicious, please try to avoid prescriptive writing as it states in the rules.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 22:08, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:"Regardless of whether it was intend or not." Does Bib, get a warning for calling incels mutants? [[mutation]] "That being said, being a mutant is not a judgement or insult. It is simply the genetic condition of having a high mutational load, much like being physically ill is not an insult." [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 22:27, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::His use of "may" and his disclaimers there are playing footsie with the rules, but it at least shows he knows the rules. I haven't seen that but that sort of violates the rule about unsourced genetic fitness claims. However, if he sources it accurately, it can stay. Thank you for pointing that out, and please don't tell incels to LDAR and that "its over".[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 22:32, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::: I wrote the stuff about the purported increase in autism being possibly due to increased ''de novo'' mutations in the mutation article mikey linked. I provided sources and didn't make any judgement on whether this is reflective of "good genes" or not. [[User:Altmark22|Altmark22]] ([[User talk:Altmark22|talk]]) 22:39, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Ok, this is ultimately a red herring Mikey, please don't point at others when I give you a warning[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 22:41, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::: Bib wrote the mutant rising/incels are mutant titles, and edited them to be less offensive like a couple days ago. I peeped 2 weeks ago like damn this is cold hearted but like its just cringe autism, Bib legit did not mean harm. The rules are intended or not so eh. i brought it up to make sure I was not being targeted and singled out, which feels like I am. Since I've been getting attacked alot lately. [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 22:46, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::You are victimizing yourself and blaming others that have nothing to do with this section, stop doing that. If multiple people don't like your writing on meme pages, then the relevant content won't be used. If it violates a rule then it definitely won't be used.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 22:57, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::: That's fine, and some of the mutant stuff rubbed me the wrong way also (could easily be perceived as eugenicist, or hostile towards incels). Just wanted to clarify that I wrote a large portion of that article. [[User:Altmark22|Altmark22]] ([[User talk:Altmark22|talk]]) 22:54, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::: "Regarding your section telling men uglier than you to [[LDAR]]." Will that's fucking personal "your" as in Mikey telling men uglier than Mikey to LDAR. I'm fuckin pissed off cuz I wrote the LDAR checklist to help people, and it could have been written by a truecel, u just happen to know its me, so tell me how its not personal? This wiki is the first thing an outsider sees about incels, specifically the [[decile]] page. Had no idea about incel culture, losing status by ascension, chadsplaining, the hate of positivity and helpfulness, even though all this wiki is, is helpful even though that is not the intent? Literally thought this place was about ascension, and or getting better with women till like a week ago, just because of how useful the info is and thats the thing, you just wrote [[muscle theory]], I guarantee you by next month at least a few hundreds ch3ds ascended or not (the people incels hate) are gonna use that pages info to get laid. Think about how much PUA's were charging for bullshit. Theres probably over $1,000,000 of actually useful, true information here, let go for free, and its not helping incels its helping u know whos. If an incel reads yur muscle theory and gets laid, he's not incel. Articles that would help incels are like best copes of 2020, get this video game. My 6ft 8 Giga-tyrone friend that has a girlfriend, is unnecessarily black pilled, about the importance of jawline and bone structure definition from watching [[Faceandlms]], just because of how big and mainstream this shit has gotten. People see the knowledge first and the culture second. Outsiders think this about helping all men. If your mad about certain types of people being here. Theres only gunna be more if you keep putting out useful shit freely. [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 01:25, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I didn't read that, but you're a chad with a long history of IRL sexual experience and you need to learn how to take a warning as you did break a rule by ''being prescriptive''. Do you know what the word prescriptive means? You have failed to show acknkowledgement of what that word means, and prefer emotionality and hence this page will be locked if you continue[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 01:50, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::relating to the imposition or enforcement of a rule or method. [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 01:54, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Right, please read this policy page. https://incels.wiki/w/Incel_Wiki:Incel_Wiki_is_descriptive,_not_prescriptive#Prescriptive_sentence_examples It very explicitly says to not do what you did, verbatim, in that section. And you're not getting banned over it because you only did it once (unless you also wrote that fashion article, but that could be forgiven too), hence ''warning'', not ban.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 01:57, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::: Wrote the == safe outfits for the unfashionable == section with the all white outfits and video. The rest someone else wrote the other stuff. [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 02:02, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::: Will you wrote the fashion article look at the history [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 02:05, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::Yes, that content which I think you're referring to was sourced (ie I did not write it) from a shitty PUA wiki ''BEFORE THE POLICY ADDITIONS'' I linked you, see the dates for each. So far, I've given you a warning and you've tried to blame literally everyone except you (Bibipi, me, Altmark). All you had to do was say 'ok I see the rule, I will not violate it. That's it that's all.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 02:11, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::: Sorry if I offended any one, it was my fault. [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 02:14, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Didn't mean to delete your changes to Creepiness ==<br />
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I had edited an older version. I hope no feelings were hurt [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 19:28, 27 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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lol its fine. You know your writing style changed? It slowly started changing after the beauty article was written. And is now drastically different. Like before was more social scientist type. Now its more like physics, hard science type. More use of words like critically, maximally, etc. Im still getting used to the new tone. Just think its interesting is all [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 20:18, 27 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Bad edits ==<br />
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You have replaced perfectly fine pics on beauty with a static pic hosted on your YouTube channel, which is not an obvious improvement. https://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Beauty&oldid=46786 [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 10:22, 30 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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Secondly, you've reverted changes of mine at least some of which seem to be worth keeping, especially the evidence that game does not seem to matter (much?) at zero acquaintance level as IQ and various personality measures like extraversion etc. did not predict romantic interest; secondly you removed the contextualization of game as courtship behavior, and thirdly you removed my improvement of the odd repetitive use of the word 'attractive': https://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Game&diff=46812&oldid=46811 [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 10:22, 30 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Msg Master [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 10:53, 30 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==Warning #2, no prescriptive writing==<br />
Your sentence on [[buttocks]] which was deleted, "The skin on the buttocks must be tight and firm, and ideally there are ''slight'' creases below the buttocks", is creepy and too prescriptive.<br />
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See [[:Incel_Wiki:Incel_Wiki_is_not_prescriptive]]<br />
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[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 15:44, 18 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Will, you wrote or copy pasted ''The skin on the buttocks must be tight and firm'' 22:17, 20 September 2018. The first writing on the page. Then Bib wrote ''and ideally there is a slight crease below the buttocks, the gluteal sulcus'' 13:24, 2 February 2020 [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 16:46, 18 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:: Aye you there? [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 23:02, 18 February 2020 (UTC)</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Mikey&diff=47978User talk:Mikey2020-02-18T16:47:24Z<p>Mikey: /* Warning #2, no prescriptive writing */</p>
<hr />
<div>==Lesson in Mediawiki syntax==<br />
Please include "See Also" links in your article to other articles, as well as "See Also" links from other articles to your article. Without such things, your page becomes an "orphaned page", meaning it is hard for people to access it. If you are confused about how "see also" works on pages, check the source of a page with "see also".<br />
<br />
<br />
Also every new topic on a talk page should have a header (equal sign header) that describes your new topic like how this one has "hello" as the header. Thanks! [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 14:37, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Also replies to comments on talk pages use colons, the amount of colons depending on what comment you are replying to [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 14:40, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
::a reply to a reply uses two colons for example (like this comment, each comment has it's own sig [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 14:40, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:A reply to the initial topic uses one colon and so on, it works like a threaded forum [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 14:40, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Please read up more on mediawiki syntax==<br />
Here's a start https://incels.wiki/w/Talk:Beautiful_speech_pattern <br />
<br />
If you have questions, or want a real-time lesson, just ask [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 15:04, 12 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
<br />
kk editing now [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 15:06, 12 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Updated Policy==<br />
Receiving this ping does not necessarily mean you have done something wrong. There seems to be conflict arising from unclear guidelines about humor articles. While it is not possible to fully formalize how humor articles should work, here is a basic summary to be taken in good-faith. [[Incel Wiki:Articles that are not about accuracy|Rule about articles that are not about accuracy]]. [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 13:45, 24 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== different opinions on [[mewing]] page ==<br />
<br />
by [[User:Lorsss]]<br />
===Different opinions on mewing===<br />
<br />
Before my edits this page was definetely supported mewing as effective way to improve one's face, while ignoring the opinion of the majority of [[PSL]] community who don't believe mewing theories. This is why I splitted in two, explaining the opinion of both mewing supporters and both mewing deniers.<br />
<br />
<br />
I quote this guideline of incels.wiki<br />
<br />
''Incel Wiki is inclusionist, not delitionist. We try to preserve other people's writing. If you absolutely hate a page or have a completely different view, you can split controversial pages into two pages, or qualify disagreement in the article itself by saying "x (me) views y as this", however "z views y as this" (more recommended for large articles).''<br />
<br><br><br />
You changed the section I wrote about the opinion mewing deniers so that their opinion is considered wrong, thus you made the page biased again.<br />
<br />
* Theres nothing biased about the page, used an reference. Can use more if wanted.<br />
<br />
[[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 15:31, 18 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
<br />
===Jaw training===<br />
you also wrote in that page that jaw training is useful to looksmax,<br />
However jaw and masseter training is not a looksmaxing method, but a thing which makes your face worse. The proof of my arguents are Looksmax.me users who undergo surgical masseter reduction and end up being more attractive. In fact masseter is a round muscle which makes your face apperar round, whereas good natural jaw bones are sharp and make your face appear angular<br />
<br />
* Provided a proven reference on the page, could provide many more if needed. post a Link to their posts on the mewing page.<br />
<br />
[[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 15:31, 18 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
===Off topic in mewing page===<br />
in that page you wrote phrases about facial exercise and jaw training, however the topic of this page is mewing, and theese exercises are off-Topic<br />
<br />
*Not off topic, there all facial exercises.<br />
<br />
[[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 15:31, 18 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Subsections==<br />
Do you know how they work?, specifically, <nowiki>===subsection===</nowiki> inside of <nowiki>==section==</nowiki>[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]])<br />
<br />
Like how to use them?<br />
<br />
doesn't this go like<br />
<br />
== Hi my name is Slim Shady ==<br />
Slim Shady is the alter ego of Eminem.<br />
<br />
=== Characteristics ===<br />
* blonde hair<br />
* blue eyes<br />
<br />
[[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 22:04, 25 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Merry Christmas==<br />
Have a happy holidays[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 22:00, 25 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==Recent [[It's over]] Edits - Warning #1==<br />
Regarding your section telling men uglier than you to [[LDAR]].<br />
<br />
See [[Editing_rules,_account_creation,_and_other_info#Editing_Rules]]. We do not allow prescriptive type writing, especially that which is malicious towards incels. Regardless of whether it was intended as malicious, please try to avoid prescriptive writing as it states in the rules.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 22:08, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:"Regardless of whether it was intend or not." Does Bib, get a warning for calling incels mutants? [[mutation]] "That being said, being a mutant is not a judgement or insult. It is simply the genetic condition of having a high mutational load, much like being physically ill is not an insult." [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 22:27, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::His use of "may" and his disclaimers there are playing footsie with the rules, but it at least shows he knows the rules. I haven't seen that but that sort of violates the rule about unsourced genetic fitness claims. However, if he sources it accurately, it can stay. Thank you for pointing that out, and please don't tell incels to LDAR and that "its over".[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 22:32, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::: I wrote the stuff about the purported increase in autism being possibly due to increased ''de novo'' mutations in the mutation article mikey linked. I provided sources and didn't make any judgement on whether this is reflective of "good genes" or not. [[User:Altmark22|Altmark22]] ([[User talk:Altmark22|talk]]) 22:39, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Ok, this is ultimately a red herring Mikey, please don't point at others when I give you a warning[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 22:41, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::: Bib wrote the mutant rising/incels are mutant titles, and edited them to be less offensive like a couple days ago. I peeped 2 weeks ago like damn this is cold hearted but like its just cringe autism, Bib legit did not mean harm. The rules are intended or not so eh. i brought it up to make sure I was not being targeted and singled out, which feels like I am. Since I've been getting attacked alot lately. [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 22:46, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::You are victimizing yourself and blaming others that have nothing to do with this section, stop doing that. If multiple people don't like your writing on meme pages, then the relevant content won't be used. If it violates a rule then it definitely won't be used.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 22:57, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::: That's fine, and some of the mutant stuff rubbed me the wrong way also (could easily be perceived as eugenicist, or hostile towards incels). Just wanted to clarify that I wrote a large portion of that article. [[User:Altmark22|Altmark22]] ([[User talk:Altmark22|talk]]) 22:54, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::: "Regarding your section telling men uglier than you to [[LDAR]]." Will that's fucking personal "your" as in Mikey telling men uglier than Mikey to LDAR. I'm fuckin pissed off cuz I wrote the LDAR checklist to help people, and it could have been written by a truecel, u just happen to know its me, so tell me how its not personal? This wiki is the first thing an outsider sees about incels, specifically the [[decile]] page. Had no idea about incel culture, losing status by ascension, chadsplaining, the hate of positivity and helpfulness, even though all this wiki is, is helpful even though that is not the intent? Literally thought this place was about ascension, and or getting better with women till like a week ago, just because of how useful the info is and thats the thing, you just wrote [[muscle theory]], I guarantee you by next month at least a few hundreds ch3ds ascended or not (the people incels hate) are gonna use that pages info to get laid. Think about how much PUA's were charging for bullshit. Theres probably over $1,000,000 of actually useful, true information here, let go for free, and its not helping incels its helping u know whos. If an incel reads yur muscle theory and gets laid, he's not incel. Articles that would help incels are like best copes of 2020, get this video game. My 6ft 8 Giga-tyrone friend that has a girlfriend, is unnecessarily black pilled, about the importance of jawline and bone structure definition from watching [[Faceandlms]], just because of how big and mainstream this shit has gotten. People see the knowledge first and the culture second. Outsiders think this about helping all men. If your mad about certain types of people being here. Theres only gunna be more if you keep putting out useful shit freely. [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 01:25, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I didn't read that, but you're a chad with a long history of IRL sexual experience and you need to learn how to take a warning as you did break a rule by ''being prescriptive''. Do you know what the word prescriptive means? You have failed to show acknkowledgement of what that word means, and prefer emotionality and hence this page will be locked if you continue[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 01:50, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::relating to the imposition or enforcement of a rule or method. [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 01:54, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Right, please read this policy page. https://incels.wiki/w/Incel_Wiki:Incel_Wiki_is_descriptive,_not_prescriptive#Prescriptive_sentence_examples It very explicitly says to not do what you did, verbatim, in that section. And you're not getting banned over it because you only did it once (unless you also wrote that fashion article, but that could be forgiven too), hence ''warning'', not ban.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 01:57, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::: Wrote the == safe outfits for the unfashionable == section with the all white outfits and video. The rest someone else wrote the other stuff. [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 02:02, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::: Will you wrote the fashion article look at the history [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 02:05, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::Yes, that content which I think you're referring to was sourced (ie I did not write it) from a shitty PUA wiki ''BEFORE THE POLICY ADDITIONS'' I linked you, see the dates for each. So far, I've given you a warning and you've tried to blame literally everyone except you (Bibipi, me, Altmark). All you had to do was say 'ok I see the rule, I will not violate it. That's it that's all.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 02:11, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::: Sorry if I offended any one, it was my fault. [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 02:14, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Didn't mean to delete your changes to Creepiness ==<br />
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I had edited an older version. I hope no feelings were hurt [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 19:28, 27 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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lol its fine. You know your writing style changed? It slowly started changing after the beauty article was written. And is now drastically different. Like before was more social scientist type. Now its more like physics, hard science type. More use of words like critically, maximally, etc. Im still getting used to the new tone. Just think its interesting is all [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 20:18, 27 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Bad edits ==<br />
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You have replaced perfectly fine pics on beauty with a static pic hosted on your YouTube channel, which is not an obvious improvement. https://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Beauty&oldid=46786 [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 10:22, 30 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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Secondly, you've reverted changes of mine at least some of which seem to be worth keeping, especially the evidence that game does not seem to matter (much?) at zero acquaintance level as IQ and various personality measures like extraversion etc. did not predict romantic interest; secondly you removed the contextualization of game as courtship behavior, and thirdly you removed my improvement of the odd repetitive use of the word 'attractive': https://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Game&diff=46812&oldid=46811 [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 10:22, 30 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Msg Master [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 10:53, 30 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==Warning #2, no prescriptive writing==<br />
Your sentence on [[buttocks]] which was deleted, "The skin on the buttocks must be tight and firm, and ideally there are ''slight'' creases below the buttocks", is creepy and too prescriptive.<br />
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See [[:Incel_Wiki:Incel_Wiki_is_not_prescriptive]]<br />
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[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 15:44, 18 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Will, you wrote or copy pasted ''The skin on the buttocks must be tight and firm'' 22:17, 20 September 2018. The first writing on the page. Then Bib wrote ''and ideally there is a slight crease below the buttocks, the gluteal sulcus'' 13:24, 2 February 2020 [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 16:46, 18 February 2020 (UTC)</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Mikey&diff=47977User talk:Mikey2020-02-18T16:47:09Z<p>Mikey: /* Warning #2, no prescriptive writing */</p>
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<div>==Lesson in Mediawiki syntax==<br />
Please include "See Also" links in your article to other articles, as well as "See Also" links from other articles to your article. Without such things, your page becomes an "orphaned page", meaning it is hard for people to access it. If you are confused about how "see also" works on pages, check the source of a page with "see also".<br />
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Also every new topic on a talk page should have a header (equal sign header) that describes your new topic like how this one has "hello" as the header. Thanks! [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 14:37, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:Also replies to comments on talk pages use colons, the amount of colons depending on what comment you are replying to [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 14:40, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
::a reply to a reply uses two colons for example (like this comment, each comment has it's own sig [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 14:40, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
:A reply to the initial topic uses one colon and so on, it works like a threaded forum [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 14:40, 5 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Please read up more on mediawiki syntax==<br />
Here's a start https://incels.wiki/w/Talk:Beautiful_speech_pattern <br />
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If you have questions, or want a real-time lesson, just ask [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 15:04, 12 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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kk editing now [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 15:06, 12 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Updated Policy==<br />
Receiving this ping does not necessarily mean you have done something wrong. There seems to be conflict arising from unclear guidelines about humor articles. While it is not possible to fully formalize how humor articles should work, here is a basic summary to be taken in good-faith. [[Incel Wiki:Articles that are not about accuracy|Rule about articles that are not about accuracy]]. [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 13:45, 24 November 2019 (UTC)<br />
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== different opinions on [[mewing]] page ==<br />
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by [[User:Lorsss]]<br />
===Different opinions on mewing===<br />
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Before my edits this page was definetely supported mewing as effective way to improve one's face, while ignoring the opinion of the majority of [[PSL]] community who don't believe mewing theories. This is why I splitted in two, explaining the opinion of both mewing supporters and both mewing deniers.<br />
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I quote this guideline of incels.wiki<br />
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''Incel Wiki is inclusionist, not delitionist. We try to preserve other people's writing. If you absolutely hate a page or have a completely different view, you can split controversial pages into two pages, or qualify disagreement in the article itself by saying "x (me) views y as this", however "z views y as this" (more recommended for large articles).''<br />
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You changed the section I wrote about the opinion mewing deniers so that their opinion is considered wrong, thus you made the page biased again.<br />
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* Theres nothing biased about the page, used an reference. Can use more if wanted.<br />
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[[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 15:31, 18 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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===Jaw training===<br />
you also wrote in that page that jaw training is useful to looksmax,<br />
However jaw and masseter training is not a looksmaxing method, but a thing which makes your face worse. The proof of my arguents are Looksmax.me users who undergo surgical masseter reduction and end up being more attractive. In fact masseter is a round muscle which makes your face apperar round, whereas good natural jaw bones are sharp and make your face appear angular<br />
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* Provided a proven reference on the page, could provide many more if needed. post a Link to their posts on the mewing page.<br />
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[[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 15:31, 18 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
===Off topic in mewing page===<br />
in that page you wrote phrases about facial exercise and jaw training, however the topic of this page is mewing, and theese exercises are off-Topic<br />
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*Not off topic, there all facial exercises.<br />
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[[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 15:31, 18 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Subsections==<br />
Do you know how they work?, specifically, <nowiki>===subsection===</nowiki> inside of <nowiki>==section==</nowiki>[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]])<br />
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Like how to use them?<br />
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doesn't this go like<br />
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== Hi my name is Slim Shady ==<br />
Slim Shady is the alter ego of Eminem.<br />
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=== Characteristics ===<br />
* blonde hair<br />
* blue eyes<br />
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[[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 22:04, 25 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Merry Christmas==<br />
Have a happy holidays[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 22:00, 25 December 2019 (UTC)<br />
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==Recent [[It's over]] Edits - Warning #1==<br />
Regarding your section telling men uglier than you to [[LDAR]].<br />
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See [[Editing_rules,_account_creation,_and_other_info#Editing_Rules]]. We do not allow prescriptive type writing, especially that which is malicious towards incels. Regardless of whether it was intended as malicious, please try to avoid prescriptive writing as it states in the rules.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 22:08, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:"Regardless of whether it was intend or not." Does Bib, get a warning for calling incels mutants? [[mutation]] "That being said, being a mutant is not a judgement or insult. It is simply the genetic condition of having a high mutational load, much like being physically ill is not an insult." [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 22:27, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::His use of "may" and his disclaimers there are playing footsie with the rules, but it at least shows he knows the rules. I haven't seen that but that sort of violates the rule about unsourced genetic fitness claims. However, if he sources it accurately, it can stay. Thank you for pointing that out, and please don't tell incels to LDAR and that "its over".[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 22:32, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::: I wrote the stuff about the purported increase in autism being possibly due to increased ''de novo'' mutations in the mutation article mikey linked. I provided sources and didn't make any judgement on whether this is reflective of "good genes" or not. [[User:Altmark22|Altmark22]] ([[User talk:Altmark22|talk]]) 22:39, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::Ok, this is ultimately a red herring Mikey, please don't point at others when I give you a warning[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 22:41, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::: Bib wrote the mutant rising/incels are mutant titles, and edited them to be less offensive like a couple days ago. I peeped 2 weeks ago like damn this is cold hearted but like its just cringe autism, Bib legit did not mean harm. The rules are intended or not so eh. i brought it up to make sure I was not being targeted and singled out, which feels like I am. Since I've been getting attacked alot lately. [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 22:46, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::You are victimizing yourself and blaming others that have nothing to do with this section, stop doing that. If multiple people don't like your writing on meme pages, then the relevant content won't be used. If it violates a rule then it definitely won't be used.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 22:57, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::: That's fine, and some of the mutant stuff rubbed me the wrong way also (could easily be perceived as eugenicist, or hostile towards incels). Just wanted to clarify that I wrote a large portion of that article. [[User:Altmark22|Altmark22]] ([[User talk:Altmark22|talk]]) 22:54, 1 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::: "Regarding your section telling men uglier than you to [[LDAR]]." Will that's fucking personal "your" as in Mikey telling men uglier than Mikey to LDAR. I'm fuckin pissed off cuz I wrote the LDAR checklist to help people, and it could have been written by a truecel, u just happen to know its me, so tell me how its not personal? This wiki is the first thing an outsider sees about incels, specifically the [[decile]] page. Had no idea about incel culture, losing status by ascension, chadsplaining, the hate of positivity and helpfulness, even though all this wiki is, is helpful even though that is not the intent? Literally thought this place was about ascension, and or getting better with women till like a week ago, just because of how useful the info is and thats the thing, you just wrote [[muscle theory]], I guarantee you by next month at least a few hundreds ch3ds ascended or not (the people incels hate) are gonna use that pages info to get laid. Think about how much PUA's were charging for bullshit. Theres probably over $1,000,000 of actually useful, true information here, let go for free, and its not helping incels its helping u know whos. If an incel reads yur muscle theory and gets laid, he's not incel. Articles that would help incels are like best copes of 2020, get this video game. My 6ft 8 Giga-tyrone friend that has a girlfriend, is unnecessarily black pilled, about the importance of jawline and bone structure definition from watching [[Faceandlms]], just because of how big and mainstream this shit has gotten. People see the knowledge first and the culture second. Outsiders think this about helping all men. If your mad about certain types of people being here. Theres only gunna be more if you keep putting out useful shit freely. [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 01:25, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::I didn't read that, but you're a chad with a long history of IRL sexual experience and you need to learn how to take a warning as you did break a rule by ''being prescriptive''. Do you know what the word prescriptive means? You have failed to show acknkowledgement of what that word means, and prefer emotionality and hence this page will be locked if you continue[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 01:50, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::relating to the imposition or enforcement of a rule or method. [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 01:54, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::Right, please read this policy page. https://incels.wiki/w/Incel_Wiki:Incel_Wiki_is_descriptive,_not_prescriptive#Prescriptive_sentence_examples It very explicitly says to not do what you did, verbatim, in that section. And you're not getting banned over it because you only did it once (unless you also wrote that fashion article, but that could be forgiven too), hence ''warning'', not ban.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 01:57, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
::::::::::: Wrote the == safe outfits for the unfashionable == section with the all white outfits and video. The rest someone else wrote the other stuff. [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 02:02, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::: Will you wrote the fashion article look at the history [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 02:05, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::Yes, that content which I think you're referring to was sourced (ie I did not write it) from a shitty PUA wiki ''BEFORE THE POLICY ADDITIONS'' I linked you, see the dates for each. So far, I've given you a warning and you've tried to blame literally everyone except you (Bibipi, me, Altmark). All you had to do was say 'ok I see the rule, I will not violate it. That's it that's all.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 02:11, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
:::::::::::::: Sorry if I offended any one, it was my fault. [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 02:14, 2 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Didn't mean to delete your changes to Creepiness ==<br />
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I had edited an older version. I hope no feelings were hurt [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 19:28, 27 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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lol its fine. You know your writing style changed? It slowly started changing after the beauty article was written. And is now drastically different. Like before was more social scientist type. Now its more like physics, hard science type. More use of words like critically, maximally, etc. Im still getting used to the new tone. Just think its interesting is all [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 20:18, 27 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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== Bad edits ==<br />
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You have replaced perfectly fine pics on beauty with a static pic hosted on your YouTube channel, which is not an obvious improvement. https://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Beauty&oldid=46786 [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 10:22, 30 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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Secondly, you've reverted changes of mine at least some of which seem to be worth keeping, especially the evidence that game does not seem to matter (much?) at zero acquaintance level as IQ and various personality measures like extraversion etc. did not predict romantic interest; secondly you removed the contextualization of game as courtship behavior, and thirdly you removed my improvement of the odd repetitive use of the word 'attractive': https://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Game&diff=46812&oldid=46811 [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 10:22, 30 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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:Msg Master [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 10:53, 30 January 2020 (UTC)<br />
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==Warning #2, no prescriptive writing==<br />
Your sentence on [[buttocks]] which was deleted, "The skin on the buttocks must be tight and firm, and ideally there are ''slight'' creases below the buttocks", is creepy and too prescriptive.<br />
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See [[:Incel_Wiki:Incel_Wiki_is_not_prescriptive]]<br />
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[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 15:44, 18 February 2020 (UTC)<br />
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Will, you wrote or copy pasted ''The skin on the buttocks must be tight and firm'' 22:17, 20 September 2018. The first writing on the page. Then Bib wrote ''and ideally there is a slight crease below the buttocks, the gluteal sulcus'' 13:24, 2 February 2020 [[User:Mikey|Mikey]] ([[User talk:Mikey|talk]]) 16:46, 18 February 2020 (UTC)</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Buttocks&diff=47966Buttocks2020-02-18T13:47:56Z<p>Mikey: </p>
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<div>'''Buttocks''' matter for physical attractiveness in men as a survey of 108 women showed 7% are most sexually attracted to a man's buttocks.<ref>https://www.gq.com/story/the-part-of-your-body-women-find-sexiest</ref><br />
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'''Buttocks''' are attractive to women. However, for whatever reason there was some Men's Health Magazine, marketing propaganda which in the tagline/title claimed the buttocks to be the most attractive male body part, which upon actually reading the article. Men's Health admitted this to being a lie. The survey was of 1000 people (not only women) and face was actually rated as the most attractive body part. Here is the actual quote from the propaganda. ''It's not your biceps nor is it your abs. According to a survey of 1000 people, the butt/your glutes/your hunk of junk is the body part women are most attracted to, racking up 21 per cent of the votes. OK, so the face (33 per cent) got the majority of votes – it's kind of a big deal, after all – but the main findings from this survey might change the way you hit your workout.''<ref>https://www.menshealth.com/uk/health/a758906/your-butt-is-your-most-attractive-feature-according-to-research/</ref><br />
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So a man's butt is '''NOT''' the most attractive male body part. Also there are extremely few comments on YouTube from women, under videos that have to do with men's butts. Especially in comparison to videos about men's faces where the comments are about even with the amount of male comments. This relationship is true, for any YouTube video about mens body from the neck down. The only data that would suggest any kind of male buttmaxxing is [[Fashion|shaving off]] any butt hair in order to become more attractive to young, highly fertile women, during peak ovulation.<ref>https://academic.oup.com/beheco/article/21/2/419/322906/</ref><br />
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==See Also==<br />
*[[:Category:Aesthetics|List of aesthetics]]<br />
* [[Twerk]]<br />
[[Category:Aesthetics]]<br />
[[Category:Anatomy]]<br />
== References ==<br />
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==See Also==<br />
* [[:Category:Aesthetics|List of aesthetics]]<br />
* [[Twerk]]<br />
[[Category:Aesthetics]]<br />
[[Category:Anatomy]]</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Buttocks&diff=47965Buttocks2020-02-18T13:47:33Z<p>Mikey: </p>
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<div>'''Buttocks''' matter for physical attractiveness in men as a survey of 108 women showed 7% are most sexually attracted to a man's buttocks.<ref>https://www.gq.com/story/the-part-of-your-body-women-find-sexiest</ref><br />
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'''Buttocks''' are attractive to women. However, for whatever reason there was some Men's Health Magazine, marketing propaganda which in the tagline/title claimed the buttocks to be the most attractive male body part, which upon actually reading the article. Men's Health admitted this to being a lie. The survey was of 1000 people (not only women) and face was actually rated as the most attractive body part. Here is the actual quote from the propaganda. ''It's not your biceps nor is it your abs. According to a survey of 1000 people, the butt/your glutes/your hunk of junk is the body part women are most attracted to, racking up 21 per cent of the votes. OK, so the face (33 per cent) got the majority of votes – it's kind of a big deal, after all – but the main findings from this survey might change the way you hit your workout.''<ref>https://www.menshealth.com/uk/health/a758906/your-butt-is-your-most-attractive-feature-according-to-research/</ref><br />
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So a man's butt is '''NOT''' the most attractive male body part, face is. Also there are extremely few comments on YouTube from women, under videos that have to do with men's butts. Especially in comparison to videos about men's faces where the comments are about even with the amount of male comments. This relationship is true, for any YouTube video about mens body from the neck down. The only data that would suggest any kind of male buttmaxxing is [[Fashion|shaving off]] any butt hair in order to become more attractive to young, highly fertile women, during peak ovulation.<ref>https://academic.oup.com/beheco/article/21/2/419/322906/</ref><br />
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==See Also==<br />
*[[:Category:Aesthetics|List of aesthetics]]<br />
* [[Twerk]]<br />
[[Category:Aesthetics]]<br />
[[Category:Anatomy]]<br />
== References ==<br />
<references /><br />
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==See Also==<br />
* [[:Category:Aesthetics|List of aesthetics]]<br />
* [[Twerk]]<br />
[[Category:Aesthetics]]<br />
[[Category:Anatomy]]</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Buttocks&diff=47964Buttocks2020-02-18T13:46:51Z<p>Mikey: </p>
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<div>'''Buttocks''' matter for physical attractiveness in men as a survey of 108 women showed 7% are most sexually attracted to a man's buttocks.<ref>https://www.gq.com/story/the-part-of-your-body-women-find-sexiest</ref><br />
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'''Buttocks''' are attractive in both males and females. However, for whatever reason there was some Men's Health Magazine, marketing propaganda which in the tagline/title claimed the buttocks to be the most attractive male body part, which upon actually reading the article. Men's Health admitted this to being a lie. The survey was of 1000 people (not only women) and face was actually rated as the most attractive body part. Here is the actual quote from the propaganda. ''It's not your biceps nor is it your abs. According to a survey of 1000 people, the butt/your glutes/your hunk of junk is the body part women are most attracted to, racking up 21 per cent of the votes. OK, so the face (33 per cent) got the majority of votes – it's kind of a big deal, after all – but the main findings from this survey might change the way you hit your workout.''<ref>https://www.menshealth.com/uk/health/a758906/your-butt-is-your-most-attractive-feature-according-to-research/</ref><br />
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So a man's butt is '''NOT''' the most attractive male body part, face is. Also there are extremely few comments on YouTube from women, under videos that have to do with men's butts. Especially in comparison to videos about men's faces where the comments are about even with the amount of male comments. This relationship is true, for any YouTube video about mens body from the neck down. The only data that would suggest any kind of male buttmaxxing is [[Fashion|shaving off]] any butt hair in order to become more attractive to young, highly fertile women, during peak ovulation.<ref>https://academic.oup.com/beheco/article/21/2/419/322906/</ref><br />
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==See Also==<br />
*[[:Category:Aesthetics|List of aesthetics]]<br />
* [[Twerk]]<br />
[[Category:Aesthetics]]<br />
[[Category:Anatomy]]<br />
== References ==<br />
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==See Also==<br />
* [[:Category:Aesthetics|List of aesthetics]]<br />
* [[Twerk]]<br />
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[[Category:Anatomy]]</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Muscle_theory&diff=47963Muscle theory2020-02-18T13:43:11Z<p>Mikey: /* Abs Theory */</p>
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<div>'''Muscle Theory''' is the theory that increasing muscle mass and decreasing body fat is the easiest way to get laid for free via online dating or bar hopping in your immediate location. That muscle is more important than height, face, personality, or frame in attracting women, especially if the person isn't severely physically deformed or a midget. <br />
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==Studies on muscle theory==<br />
===Clear sexual benefits===<br />
According to a study by UCLA, muscle-bound men report almost 3 times as many sexual partners as men without a muscular physique.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20160430064307/http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/Lift-More-Weights-Get-More-Mates-8069?RelNum=8069</ref><br />
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==="Dad bods"===<br />
There is also allegedly greater online, self-reported appreciation for "dad bods" in America. There really is no universally accepted definition of, "Dad bod", but all definitions include surplus of abdominal fat. This made the news to due an online study, not by any academic source. The "study" was by Kelton Global, a company which owns the gym Planet Fitness. This "unbiased study" showed a small majority of women self-reporting that "dad bods" are sexy.<ref>https://finance.yahoo.com/news/planet-fitness-study-finds-love-130000740.html?guccounter=1</ref> And a larger majority preferring to marry men with Dad Bods, than men with a six pack.<ref>https://blog.bcbsnc.com/2018/06/dad-bod/</ref> If these results are true, they simply only show self-reported preference, not actual preference. In other words the women were simply asked in writing, it was in no way a blind study. Additionally, according to anecdotes, it may be true women have an actual preference for less muscular men in marriage, and this would follow the theory of the [[dual mating strategy]].<br />
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===Women universally find muscle more attractive===<br />
According to Aaron Sell, Aaron W. Lukazsweski and Michael Townsley in a blind, academic, peer-reviewed study, '''cues of upper body strength account for most of the variance in men's bodily attractiveness'''.<ref>https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2017.1819</ref> In the study, women were asked to rate photos of men, and while height and leanness played a role, perceived strength played the largest role in which pictures women picked, with women choosing the men they perceived as stronger, and not ones they perceived as weaker. In fact, the women never chose weaker men, and there was no nuance to the results. '''Zero of the 160 women surveyed showed a statistical, actual preference for weaker men.'''<ref>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/12/12/women-rate-the-strongest-men-as-the-most-attractive-study-finds/</ref><br />
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===A study found only males physical dominance predicted sexual partner count===<br />
A study by Kordsmeyer et al. 2018 found that men's mating success (defined as "an aggregate of participants' number of sexual partners within the last twelve months, lifetime number of one-night stands and of sexual partners without relationship interest") among university students was only related to how dominant other men perceived them. Women's attractiveness ratings were not predictive.<br />
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Since perceived strength is only moderately related to actual strength, it is likely that physical features like some men's V-shaped upper body is largely sexually selected and mimics actual strength. It is plausible that the study's advertisement primarily selected for men who were confident with their physical appearance, thus they possibly were selected to meet a minimal looks threshold, necessary for dating, that may have went unnoticed by the researchers.<br />
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While physical dominance encompasses much more than muscle mass, greater upper body muscle mass certainly plays a large role in this perception.<ref>http://larspenke.eu/pdfs/Kordsmeyer_et_al_2018_-_Intra-_vs_intersexual_selection_on_human_males.pdf</ref><br />
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==LFA==<br />
This theory is promoted by [[MGTOW]] youtuber [https://tome.is/w/LFA_(Youtube_Vlogger) LFA]. It is also the dominant mode of thinking on [[Bodybuilding.com]]. Those incels who are naturally not masculine in [[personality]], or hate masculinity in general may avoid muscle-maxxing despite it's proven benefits and they may hyperfocus on less studied [[looksmaxxing]], such as [[fashion]].<br />
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==Abs Theory==<br />
[[William]] agrees with the theory and takes it a step farther. Suggesting abs is the single most important physical trait in men on online dating apps. While not as quantifiable as regular muscle theory, abs theory is hypothesized based on shirtless men with abs always getting dozens of matches on tinder during catfishing experiments. A survey on men's body attractiveness showed 88% of women are sexually attracted to man's muscular body over a man's face and other body parts, unrelated to muscles. With abs most desired by women that earn over $150,000 per year in income, this effect is more pronounced the younger the woman.<ref>https://www.drfelix.co.uk/most-attractive-body-parts/</ref><br />
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==World's strongest man==<br />
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==References==<br />
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==See Also==<br />
*[[LFA_(Youtube_Vlogger) LFA]]<br />
*[[Variability hypothesis]]<br />
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[[Category:Theories]]</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Essay:Reproductive_success&diff=47962Essay:Reproductive success2020-02-18T00:35:58Z<p>Mikey: </p>
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<div>{{Essay|Mikey}}<br />
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In modern society, high male R.S. is determined by a high degree of trauma and or adversity in life. For example, poverty, disease, injury, death of parents, expulsion from groups and or institutions etc, usually as a child and or teenager, and then a '''complete overcome of said adversities''', usually in early adulthood. Also all high R.S. males are normal to high in physical masculinity. No high R.S. males are androgynous pretty boys. You will never see an androgynous pretty boy with 10 kids. All high R.S. Males have a high FWHR (a wide, square face shape) as well as high prenatal testosterone exposure. Young, fat/thick women produce the most testosterone during pregnancy, with each subsequent child receiving less. The high R.S. Males are either highly religious and engage in monogamy, financially providing for 1 long term mate, through large amounts of attained wealth or the high R.S. Males are highly religious, dark triad, callous psychopaths engaging in polygamy financially providing for multiple short term mates with , petty cash ,job opportunities , drugs, etc.<br />
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There is a curvi-linear relationship with facial attractiveness and amount of children. <br />
https://imgur.com/a/gOhNRca<br />
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Meaning men that are 1-4 on the [[decile]] and men that are 7-10 on the [[decile]] have the least amount of children. This is in spite of the most facially attractive men having the most sex, being the most desired by women, and having the most objectively, high life quality. An analysis by the Incel wiki team of the top 50 male models of all time showed that only 11/50 had children. None reproduced above fertility (3 or more children). Note that all of these men are also rich and wealthy, and any illegitimate children are accounted for on their profiles, as they are too high profile for baby moms to avoid the spotlight. Extremely facially attractive men have an extremely, disproportionately low amount of children, legitimate or otherwise, in comparison to the amount of sex they are having. Their lower fertility is due to lack of adversity in life, while their low decile counterparts have lower fertility due to insurmountable adversity in life. Men's modern reproductive success is correlated with the [[antifragility]] principle.<br />
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In contrast the top 50 female models of all time reproduce over 98% of the time, and plenty of them have 3 or more children. They actually have high fertility above replacement as a group.<br />
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Thus naturally, facially beautiful women are becoming more abundant although not more beautiful due to their fathers lacking in attractiveness. While us men as a group are stagnant in our natural facial attractiveness and becoming more psychologically driven to go to greater lengths to increase our [[LMS]] and overall attractiveness artificially.<br />
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This dysgenic trend creates an evolutionary missmatch where fathers that mate with conventionally, beautiful faced women, are having sons with lower fertility, although higher life quality, and having their paternal genetic lineage die out, in subsequent generations.</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Essay:Reproductive_success&diff=47961Essay:Reproductive success2020-02-16T17:08:42Z<p>Mikey: </p>
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<div>{{Essay|Mikey}}<br />
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In modern society, high male R.S. is determined by a high degree of trauma and or adversity in life. For example, poverty, disease, injury, death of parents, expulsion from groups and or institutions etc, usually as a child and or teenager, and then a '''complete overcome of said adversities''', usually in early adulthood. Also all high R.S. males are normal to high in physical masculinity. No high R.S. males are androgynous pretty boys. You will never see an androgynous pretty boy with 10 kids. All high R.S. Males have a high FWHR (a wide, square face shape) as well as high prenatal testosterone exposure. Young, fat/thick women produce the most testosterone during pregnancy, with each subsequent child receiving less. The high R.S. Males are either highly religious and engage in monogamy, financially providing for 1 long term mate, through large amounts of attained wealth or the high R.S. Males are highly religious, dark triad, callous psychopaths engaging in polygamy financially providing for multiple short term mates with , petty cash ,job opportunities , drugs, etc.<br />
<br />
There is a curvi-linear relationship with facial attractiveness and amount of children. Meaning men that are 1-4 on the [[decile]] and men that are 7-10 on the [[decile]] have the least amount of children. This is in spite of the most facially attractive men having the most sex, being the most desired by women, and having the most objectively, high life quality. An analysis by the Incel wiki team of the top 50 male models of all time showed that only 11/50 had children. None reproduced above fertility (3 or more children). Note that all of these men are also rich and wealthy, and any illegitimate children are accounted for on their profiles, as they are too high profile for baby moms to avoid the spotlight. Extremely facially attractive men have an extremely, disproportionately low amount of children, legitimate or otherwise, in comparison to the amount of sex they are having. Their lower fertility is due to lack of adversity in life, while their low decile counterparts have lower fertility due to insurmountable adversity in life. Men's modern reproductive success is correlated with the [[antifragility]] principle.<br />
<br />
In contrast the top 50 female models of all time reproduce over 98% of the time, and plenty of them have 3 or more children. They actually have high fertility above replacement as a group.<br />
<br />
Thus naturally, facially beautiful women are becoming more abundant although not more beautiful due to their fathers lacking in attractiveness. While us men as a group are stagnant in our natural facial attractiveness and becoming more psychologically driven to go to greater lengths to increase our [[LMS]] and overall attractiveness artificially.<br />
<br />
This dysgenic trend creates an evolutionary missmatch where fathers that mate with conventionally, beautiful faced women, are having sons with lower fertility, although higher life quality, and having their paternal genetic lineage die out, in subsequent generations.</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Essay:Reproductive_success&diff=47960Essay:Reproductive success2020-02-16T16:58:52Z<p>Mikey: </p>
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<div>{{Essay|Mikey}}<br />
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In modern society, high male R.S. is determined by a high degree of trauma and or adversity in life. For example, poverty, disease, injury, death of parents, expulsion from groups and or institutions etc, usually as a child and or teenager, and then a '''complete overcome of said adversities''', usually in early adulthood. Also all high R.S. males are normal to high in physical masculinity. No high R.S. males are androgynous pretty boys. You will never see an androgynous pretty boy with 10 kids. All high R.S. Males have a high FWHR (a wide, square face shape) as well as high prenatal testosterone exposure. Young, fat/thick women produce the most testosterone during pregnancy, with each subsequent child receiving less. The high R.S. Males are either highly religious and engage in monogamy, financially providing for 1 long term mate, through large amounts of attained wealth or the high R.S. Males are highly religious, dark triad, callous psychopaths engaging in polygamy financially providing for multiple short term mates with , petty cash ,job opportunities , drugs, etc.<br />
<br />
There is a curvi-linear relationship with facial attractiveness and amount of children. Meaning men that are 1-4 on the [[decile]] and men that are 7-10 on the [[decile]] have the least amount of children. This is in spite of the most facially attractive men having the most sex, being the most desired by women, and having the most objectively, high life quality. An analysis by the Incel wiki team of the top 50 male models of all time showed that only 11/50 had children. None reproduced above fertility (3 or more children). Note that all of these men are also rich and wealthy, and any illegitimate children are accounted for on their profiles, as they are too high profile for baby moms to avoid the spotlight. Extremely facially attractive men have an extremely, disproportionately low amount of children, legitimate or otherwise, in comparison to the amount of sex they are having. Their lower fertility is due to lack of adversity in life, while their low decile counterparts have lower fertility due to insurmountable adversity in life. Men's modern reproductive success is correlated with the [[antifragility]] principle.<br />
<br />
In contrast the top 50 female models of all time reproduce over 98% of the time, and plenty of them have 3 or more children. They actually have high fertility above replacement as a group.<br />
<br />
Thus naturally, facially beautiful women are becoming more abundant although not more beautiful due to their fathers lacking in attractiveness. While us men as a group are stagnant in our natural facial attractiveness and becoming more psychologically driven to go to greater lengths to increase our [[LMS]] and overall attractiveness artificially.<br />
<br />
This dysgenic trend creates an evolutionary missmatch where fathers that mate with conventionally, beautiful faced women, are having sons with lower fertility, although higher life quality, and having their paternal genetic lineage die out.</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Essay:Reproductive_success&diff=47959Essay:Reproductive success2020-02-16T16:57:25Z<p>Mikey: </p>
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<div>{{Essay|Mikey}}<br />
<br />
In modern society, high male R.S. is determined by a high degree of trauma and or adversity in life. For example, poverty, disease, injury, death of parents, expulsion from groups and or institutions etc, usually as a child and or teenager, and then a '''complete overcome of said adversities''', usually in early adulthood. Also all high R.S. males are normal to high in physical masculinity. No high R.S. males are androgynous pretty boys. You will never see an androgynous pretty boy with 10 kids. All high R.S. Males have a high FWHR (a wide, square face shape) as well as high prenatal testosterone exposure. Young, fat/thick women produce the most testosterone during pregnancy, with each subsequent child receiving less. The high R.S. Males are either highly religious and engage in monogamy, financially providing for 1 long term mate, through large amounts of attained wealth or the high R.S. Males are highly religious, dark triad, callous psychopaths engaging in polygamy financially providing for multiple short term mates with , petty cash ,job opportunities , drugs, etc.<br />
<br />
There is a curvi-linear relationship with facial attractiveness and amount of children. Meaning men that are 1-4 on the [[decile]] and men that are 7-10 on the [[decile]] have the least amount of children. This is in spite of the most facially attractive men having the most sex, being the most desired by women, and having the most objectively, high life quality. An analysis by the Incel wiki team of the top 50 male models of all time showed that only 11/50 had children. None reproduced above fertility (3 or more children). Note that all of these men are also rich and wealthy, and any illegitimate children are accounted for on their profiles, as they are too high profile for baby moms to avoid the spotlight. Extremely facially attractive men have an extremely, disproportionately low amount of children, legitimate or otherwise, in comparison to the amount of sex they are having. Their lower fertility is due to lack of adversity in life, while their low decile counterparts have lower fertility due to insurmountable adversity in life. Men's reproductive success is correlated with the [[antifragility]] principle.<br />
<br />
In contrast the top 50 female models of all time reproduce over 98% of the time, and plenty of them have 3 or more children. They actually have high fertility above replacement as a group.<br />
<br />
Thus naturally, facially beautiful women are becoming more abundant although not more beautiful due to their fathers lacking in attractiveness. While us men as a group are stagnant in our natural facial attractiveness and becoming more psychologically driven to go to greater lengths to increase our [[LMS]] and overall attractiveness artificially.<br />
<br />
This dysgenic trend creates an evolutionary missmatch where fathers that mate with conventionally, beautiful faced women, are having sons with lower fertility, although higher life quality, and having their paternal genetic lineage die out.</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Essay:Reproductive_success&diff=47958Essay:Reproductive success2020-02-16T16:49:02Z<p>Mikey: </p>
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<div>{{Essay|Mikey}}<br />
<br />
High male R.S. is determined by a high degree of trauma and or adversity in life. For example, poverty, disease, injury, death of parents, expulsion from groups and or institutions etc, usually as a child and or teenager, and then a '''complete overcome of said adversities''', usually in early adulthood. Also all high R.S. males are normal to high in physical masculinity. No high R.S. males are androgynous pretty boys. You will never see an androgynous pretty boy with 10 kids. All high R.S. Males have a high FWHR (a wide, square face shape) as well as high prenatal testosterone exposure. Young, fat/thick women produce the most testosterone during pregnancy, with each subsequent child receiving less. The high R.S. Males are either highly religious and engage in monogamy, financially providing for 1 long term mate, through large amounts of attained wealth or the high R.S. Males are highly religious, dark triad, callous psychopaths engaging in polygamy financially providing for multiple short term mates with , petty cash ,job opportunities , drugs, etc.<br />
<br />
There is a curvi-linear relationship with facial attractiveness and amount of children. Meaning men that are 1-4 on the [[decile]] and men that are 7-10 on the [[decile]] have the least amount of children. This is in spite of the most facially attractive men having the most sex, being the most desired by women, and having the most objectively, high life quality. An analysis by the Incel wiki team of the top 50 male models of all time showed that only 11/50 had children. None reproduced above fertility (3 or more children). Note that all of these men are also rich and wealthy, and any illegitimate children are accounted for on their profiles, as they are too high profile for baby moms to avoid the spotlight. Extremely facially attractive men have an extremely, disproportionately low amount of children, legitimate or otherwise, in comparison to the amount of sex they are having. Their lower fertility is due to lack of adversity in life, while their low decile counterparts have lower fertility due to insurmountable adversity in life. Men's reproductive success is correlated with the [[antifragility]] principle.<br />
<br />
In contrast the top 50 female models of all time reproduce over 98% of the time, and plenty of them have 3 or more children. They actually have high fertility above replacement as a group.<br />
<br />
Thus naturally, facially beautiful women are becoming more abundant although not more beautiful due to their fathers lacking in attractiveness. While us men as a group are stagnant in our natural facial attractiveness and becoming more psychologically driven to go to greater lengths to increase our [[LMS]] and overall attractiveness artificially.<br />
<br />
This dysgenic trend creates an evolutionary missmatch where fathers that mate with conventionally, beautiful faced women, are having sons with lower fertility, although higher life quality, and having their paternal genetic lineage die out.</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Essay:Reproductive_success&diff=47957Essay:Reproductive success2020-02-16T16:47:21Z<p>Mikey: </p>
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<div>{{Essay|Mikey}}<br />
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High male R.S. is determined by a high degree of trauma and or adversity in life. For example, poverty, disease, injury, death of parents, expulsion from groups and or institutions etc, usually as a child and or teenager, and then a '''complete overcome of said adversities''', usually in early adulthood. Also all high R.S. males are normal to high in physical masculinity. No high R.S. males are androgynous pretty boys. You will never see an androgynous pretty boy with 10 kids. All high R.S. Males have a high FWHR (a wide, square face shape) as well as high prenatal testosterone exposure. Young, fat/thick women produce the most testosterone during pregnancy, with each subsequent child receiving less. The high R.S. Males are either highly religious and engage in monogamy, financially providing for 1 long term mate, through large amounts of attained wealth or the high R.S. Males are highly religious, dark triad, callous psychopaths engaging in polygamy financially providing for multiple short term mates with , petty cash ,job opportunities , drugs, etc.<br />
<br />
There is a curvi-linear relationship with facial attractiveness and amount of children. Meaning men that are 1-4 on the [[decile]] and men that are 7-10 on the [[decile]] have the least amount of children. This is in spite of the most facially attractive men having the most sex, being the most desired by women, and having the most objectively, high life quality. An analysis by the Incel wiki team of the top 50 male models of all time showed that only 11/50 had children. None reproduced above fertility (3 or more children). Note that all of these men are also rich and wealthy, and any illegitimate children are accounted for on their profiles, as they are too high profile for baby moms to avoid the spotlight. Extremely facially attractive men have an extremely, disproportionately low amount of children, legitimate or otherwise, in comparison to the amount of sex they are having. Their lower fertility is due to lack of adversity in life, while their low decile counterparts have lower fertility due to insurmountable adversity in life. Men's reproductive success is correlated with the [[antifragility]] principle.<br />
<br />
In contrast the top 50 female models of all time reproduce over 98% of the time, and plenty of them have 3 or more children. They actually have high fertility above replacement as a group.<br />
<br />
Thus naturally, facially beautiful women are becoming more abundant although not more beautiful due to their fathers lacking in attractiveness. While us men as a group are stagnant in our natural facial attractiveness and becoming more psychologically driven to go to greater lengths to increase our [[LMS]] and overall attractiveness artificially.<br />
<br />
This dysgenic trend creates an evolutionary missmatch where fathers that mate with conventionally, beautiful faced women, are having sons with lower fertility, although higher life quality.</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Essay:Reproductive_success&diff=47956Essay:Reproductive success2020-02-16T16:42:28Z<p>Mikey: </p>
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<div>{{Essay|Mikey}}<br />
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High male R.S. is determined by a high degree of trauma and or adversity in life. For example, poverty, disease, injury, death of parents, expulsion from groups and or institutions etc, usually as a child and or teenager, and then a '''complete overcome of said adversities''', usually in early adulthood. Also all high R.S. males are normal to high in physical masculinity. No high R.S. males are androgynous pretty boys. You will never see an androgynous pretty boy with 10 kids. All high R.S. Males have a high FWHR (a wide, square face shape) as well as high prenatal testosterone exposure. Young, fat/thick women produce the most testosterone during pregnancy, with each subsequent child receiving less. The high R.S. Males are either highly religious and engage in monogamy, financially providing for 1 long term mate, through large amounts of attained wealth or the high R.S. Males are highly religious, dark triad, callous psychopaths engaging in polygamy financially providing for multiple short term mates with , petty cash ,job opportunities , drugs, etc.<br />
<br />
There is a curvi-linear relationship with facial attractiveness and amount of children. Meaning men that are 1-4 on the [[decile]] and men that are 7-10 on the [[decile]] have the least amount of children. This is in spite of the most facially attractive men having the most sex, being the most desired by women, and having the most objectively, high life quality. An analysis by the Incel wiki team of the top 50 male models of all time showed that only 11/50 had children. None reproduced above fertility (3 or more children). Note that all of these men are also rich and wealthy, and any illegitimate children are accounted for on their profiles, as they are too high profile for baby moms to avoid the spotlight. Extremely facially attractive men have an extremely, disproportionately low amount of children, legitimate or otherwise, in comparison to the amount of sex they are having. Their lower fertility is due to lack of adversity in life, while their low decile counterparts have lower fertility due to insurmountable adversity in life. Men's reproductive success is correlated with the [[antifragility]] principle.<br />
<br />
In contrast the top 50 female models of all time reproduce over 98% of the time, and plenty of them have 3 or more children. They actually have high fertility above replacement as a group.<br />
<br />
Thus naturally, facially beautiful women are becoming more abundant although not more beautiful due to their fathers lacking in attractiveness. While us men as a group are stagnant in our natural facial attractiveness and becoming more psychologically driven to go to greater lengths to increase our [[LMS]] and overall attractiveness artificially.</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Essay:Reproductive_success&diff=47955Essay:Reproductive success2020-02-16T08:51:29Z<p>Mikey: Created page with "{{Essay|Mikey}} High male R.S. is determined by a high degree of trauma and or adversity in life. For example, poverty, disease, injury, death of parents, expulsion from grou..."</p>
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High male R.S. is determined by a high degree of trauma and or adversity in life. For example, poverty, disease, injury, death of parents, expulsion from groups and or institutions etc, usually as a child and or teenager, and then a '''complete overcome of said adversities''', usually in early adulthood. Also all high R.S. males are normal to high in physical masculinity. No high R.S. males are androgynous pretty boys. You will never see an androgynous pretty boy with 10 kids. All high R.S. Males have a high FWHR (a wide, square face shape) as well as high prenatal testosterone exposure.. Young, fat/thick women produce the most testosterone during pregnancy, with each subsequent child receiving less. The high R.S. Males are either highly religious and engage in monogamy, financially providing for 1 long term mate, through large amounts of attained wealth or the high R.S. Males are dark triad, callous psychopaths engaging in polygamy financially providing for multiple short term mates with , petty cash ,job opportunities , drugs, etc.</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Essay:Female_morality&diff=47951Essay:Female morality2020-02-15T07:50:58Z<p>Mikey: /* Most women in society */</p>
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'''Female morality''' is a particular system of values and principles of conduct, most women adhere too. Most women are chaotic in temperament. They follow their consciences, resent being told what to do, favor new ideas over tradition, and do what they promise only if they feel like it. They value freedom, adaptability, and flexibility. The majority of women are neither good people nor are they evil people, they are neutral. Meaning most women have a neutral disposition toward authority and feel neither a compulsion to obey nor a compulsion to rebel. They can be honest at times and they can be deceitful at times. Thus,<br />
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== Most women have a chaotically neutral morality ==<br />
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The majority of women follow their whims. They are individualists first and last. They value their own liberty but don't strive to protect others' freedom. They avoid authority, resent restrictions, and challenge traditions.<br />
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Most women believe that there is no order to anything, including their own actions. With this as a guiding principle, they tend to follow whatever whim strikes them at the moment. Good and evil are irrelevant when making a decision. Therefore, most women are extremely difficult to deal with. They are almost totally unreliable. In fact, the only reliable thing about them is that they cannot be relied upon!<br />
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Most women like to indulge in everything, seeking nothing more than self-gratification. They will at least consider doing anything if they can find enjoyment or amusement. Life has meaning, but they believe theirs has the greatest meaning. <br />
<br />
The majority of women can also be completely random and unpredictable. They may shift allegiances at a moment's notice, or remain with a leader for years. They feel that there is no plan at all for the universe. Things just happen. They don't care what happens to others, yet will not necessarily go out of their way to harm others. If someone stands in the way of their happiness, they may harm that individual's reputation or move on to something else. Their priorities tend to change as they experience new things in life. They may even appear to adhere to another alignment for some length of time, only to switch at an inappropriate moment. They can be the worst tricksters, conning people, not for gain, but for sheer amusement. Most women are not driven by fame or wealth, and only take actions just to see what happens.<br />
<br />
The majority of women see ultimate freedom and disorder as most desirable and will not hesitate to use intimidation and non-lethal violence to achieve their goals. They view any wealth acquirement not as "greedy" but as "self-fulfillment." Thus, respect for others does not stand in the way of their pursuit of individuality. <br />
<br />
Most women will only keep their word if it serves their interests. They may attack a man's reputation if they feel it necessary. They have no qualms about ruining an innocent man. Most women would betray a family member, comrade, or friend, if that is what the situation calls for. They do not respect the concepts of self-discipline and honor, because they believe such concepts limit freedom to advance their self-interest. <br />
<br />
Most women can be described as: unreliable, independent, greedy, inconsistent, unpredictable, selfish, disorderly, anarchic, self-centered, confusing, unfettered, free, and individualistic.<br />
<br />
== The ten normal female commandments ==<br />
<br />
A list of Ten Commandments for a religion led by normal females would look like this:<br />
<br />
1. You shall lie to promote your freedom.<br />
<br />
2. You shall not kill the innocent.<br />
<br />
3. You shall not murder.<br />
<br />
4. You shall help the needy if such action promotes your freedom.<br />
<br />
5. You shall honor no authority above yourself.<br />
<br />
6. You shall break the law whenever convenient.<br />
<br />
7. You shall not betray others unless your life is in jeopardy.<br />
<br />
8. You shall not aid enemies of freedom or those who promote law.<br />
<br />
9. You shall pursue pleasure.<br />
<br />
10. You shall promote unlimited freedom for yourself.<br />
<br />
== The ten normal female sins ==<br />
A religion led by normal females would list the following as sins. This list is given in the order of least severe infraction to most severe.<br />
<br />
1. Showing respect for self-discipline, authority, or institutions unless trickery is involved.<br />
<br />
2. Failing to pursue pleasure.<br />
<br />
3. Placing fear of the law or duty above personal desire.<br />
<br />
4. Keeping your word to a peer when breaking your word would keep you out of danger or provide amusement.<br />
<br />
5. Refusing to exert power over others or actively sow dissension when appropriate.<br />
<br />
6. Following a law when opportunity for mischief, personal gain, or excitement presents itself.<br />
<br />
7. Turning down a chance to trick, cheat, or lie to a being for personal gain or amusement.<br />
<br />
8. Actively joining or maintaining an existing government, power structure, or other institution for reasons other than trickery, destruction, or mayhem.<br />
<br />
9. Actively hindering change.<br />
<br />
10. Actively inducing boredom. Aiding the forces of Law and Order.<br />
<br />
== Actions the majority of women approve of when combating others: ==<br />
<br />
*Dirty Fighting<br />
<br />
*Fleeing a battle that's obviously going poorly<br />
<br />
*Gloating over a victory<br />
<br />
*Perpetrating a humiliating prank on their enemy<br />
<br />
*Refusing a fair contest/challenge<br />
<br />
*Taunting an enemy into fighting<br />
<br />
*Walking away from a challenge<br />
<br />
== Actions the majority of women disapprove of when combating others: ==<br />
<br />
*Allowing a disarmed enemy to pick up their weapon<br />
<br />
*Allowing the enemy to attack first<br />
<br />
*Being taken prisoner<br />
<br />
*Harming a host whom has provided food or shelter<br />
<br />
*Refusing medical treatment for the good of others<br />
<br />
*Surrendering<br />
<br />
*Treason<br />
<br />
=== Most women in society ===<br />
<br />
*Are not concerned with the desires of family members.<br />
<br />
*Value flexible relationships with romantic partners.<br />
<br />
*Considers themselves above the law.<br />
<br />
*Find most men to be narrow-minded and inflexible.<br />
<br />
*Believe men who seek to rule others are, by nature, corrupt.<br />
<br />
*Seek to undermine the authority figures in their community and nation.<br />
<br />
*Find the legal procedures of their nation corrupt.<br />
<br />
*Believe luck determines wealth.<br />
<br />
*Will break any contract when they feel like.<br />
<br />
*Will betray a family member, in dire circumstances.<br />
<br />
*Will betray close friends, in dire circumstances.<br />
<br />
*Are generally well liked in their local communities, but will not seek to improve said communities.<br />
<br />
*Will support their nation when profitable to do so, but will not act against their nation if profitable to do so.<br />
<br />
*Believe people deserve the treatment they are willing to endure.<br />
<br />
*Are not concerned with those less fortunate.<br />
<br />
*Will not harm others for financial profit, only out of spite and amusement.<br />
<br />
Most women are largely unpredictable, influencing the community in different ways at different times. In a truly normal female led society there there would be no government. Anarchy would be the rule. A stranger to such a town would feel as if he has ridden into a town of total lawlessness and degeneracy.<br />
<br />
Most women believe that everyone should do what they want, regardless of whether the actions are good or hurt others. They will lie, cheat, and trick anyone to achieve their goals, whether that goal is amusement, power, or wealth. They value their own freedom, but don't care about the freedom of others. They do not necessarily want others to suffer as a result of their actions, but do not care if others do suffer. They tend to behave in a good manner towards friends and allies, unless their friends and allies do not agree with them. Most women don't understand their hypocrisy in believing in their own freedom, but not necessarily in the right for others to have the same freedom.<br />
<br />
Most women feel everyone should be free to pursue their own goals, for good or ill. Most women do not feel that others have the right to restrict their freedom, but they have the right to restrict others'. They see no value in laws, customs, or mores. They may appear to follow many laws, but do not do so because they believe in any inherent value to such systems, merely to avoid punishment. Most women believe in the pure freedom to pursue their own self-interest (and for others to pursue their own interests in the same manner). <br />
<br />
Freedom means a different thing to most women in comparison to most men. For most women, freedom means the freedom for all beings to pursue their own self-interest without interference from authority. They realize that there will be chances for both conflict and cooperation, but they will always seek to advance their own self-interest. They believe in the right of all beings to do what they themselves are doing (namely, pursuing self-interest). If others are advanced while they are advancing themselves, this is fine. If others are diminished when they are pursuing their own interest, so be it. They will help people that help them and harm people that harm them. They believe that freedom means the freedom for each individual to find their own way to promote happiness and prosperity in the world. They feel that the best way to promote goodness and wealth for all is to provide the most freedom. They want everyone to enjoy the same right to pursue happiness as freely as possible. Most women want maximum freedom for everyone to pursue their own ends (for good or ill).<br />
<br />
== Independent but egoistic ==<br />
<br />
Most women tend to see actions as motivated by independence or dogma. They see themselves as independent of any rigid code and as "realistic". So-called "good" is actually an idealistic and naive philosophy in their eyes. They also eschew what they see as the radical egoism of darker, "evil" philosophies.<br />
<br />
== The philosophy of most women ==<br />
<br />
Their philosophy is that the pursuit of liberty and freedom is a desirable end in and of itself. It is a philosophy of pure equitistic individualism. This philosophy holds that the best way for all beings to pursue a rational self-interest is in a society devoid of social order. By putting the needs of the individual ahead of the needs of the state or social order, each person can advance their own self-interest with minimum of interference from others. Most women can also be associated with ethical equitism, ethical hedonism, and various forms of existentialism. As the philosophical "average" of altruism and egoism, equitism holds that harm to others should be minimized when advancing the self and that harm to the self should be minimized when advancing others.<br />
<br />
Most women generally maintain that there is metaphysical chaos in the universe and thus support doctrines of indeterminism, casualism, tychism, and/or accidentalism. They believe that fortune or chance determine all outcomes. They are moral subjectivists, holding that values are expressions of emotions, attitudes, reactions, feelings, thoughts, wishes, and desires, and have no independent objective or external reality or reference in the real world.<br />
<br />
Their ideal government would be a minimalist state or anarchy supporting a social order in which they are allowed maximum freedom. Whether the social order supports altruistic actions or egoistic actions is of no concern. They want the power of the state to be as weak as possible, or preferably, non-existent. They generally support justice systems that allow maximum freedom for individuals to pursue their own personal agendas.<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
<references /></div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Essay:Female_morality&diff=47950Essay:Female morality2020-02-15T07:50:02Z<p>Mikey: /* Most women in society */</p>
<hr />
<div>{{Essay|Mikey}}<br />
<br />
'''Female morality''' is a particular system of values and principles of conduct, most women adhere too. Most women are chaotic in temperament. They follow their consciences, resent being told what to do, favor new ideas over tradition, and do what they promise only if they feel like it. They value freedom, adaptability, and flexibility. The majority of women are neither good people nor are they evil people, they are neutral. Meaning most women have a neutral disposition toward authority and feel neither a compulsion to obey nor a compulsion to rebel. They can be honest at times and they can be deceitful at times. Thus,<br />
<br />
== Most women have a chaotically neutral morality ==<br />
<br />
The majority of women follow their whims. They are individualists first and last. They value their own liberty but don't strive to protect others' freedom. They avoid authority, resent restrictions, and challenge traditions.<br />
<br />
Most women believe that there is no order to anything, including their own actions. With this as a guiding principle, they tend to follow whatever whim strikes them at the moment. Good and evil are irrelevant when making a decision. Therefore, most women are extremely difficult to deal with. They are almost totally unreliable. In fact, the only reliable thing about them is that they cannot be relied upon!<br />
<br />
Most women like to indulge in everything, seeking nothing more than self-gratification. They will at least consider doing anything if they can find enjoyment or amusement. Life has meaning, but they believe theirs has the greatest meaning. <br />
<br />
The majority of women can also be completely random and unpredictable. They may shift allegiances at a moment's notice, or remain with a leader for years. They feel that there is no plan at all for the universe. Things just happen. They don't care what happens to others, yet will not necessarily go out of their way to harm others. If someone stands in the way of their happiness, they may harm that individual's reputation or move on to something else. Their priorities tend to change as they experience new things in life. They may even appear to adhere to another alignment for some length of time, only to switch at an inappropriate moment. They can be the worst tricksters, conning people, not for gain, but for sheer amusement. Most women are not driven by fame or wealth, and only take actions just to see what happens.<br />
<br />
The majority of women see ultimate freedom and disorder as most desirable and will not hesitate to use intimidation and non-lethal violence to achieve their goals. They view any wealth acquirement not as "greedy" but as "self-fulfillment." Thus, respect for others does not stand in the way of their pursuit of individuality. <br />
<br />
Most women will only keep their word if it serves their interests. They may attack a man's reputation if they feel it necessary. They have no qualms about ruining an innocent man. Most women would betray a family member, comrade, or friend, if that is what the situation calls for. They do not respect the concepts of self-discipline and honor, because they believe such concepts limit freedom to advance their self-interest. <br />
<br />
Most women can be described as: unreliable, independent, greedy, inconsistent, unpredictable, selfish, disorderly, anarchic, self-centered, confusing, unfettered, free, and individualistic.<br />
<br />
== The ten normal female commandments ==<br />
<br />
A list of Ten Commandments for a religion led by normal females would look like this:<br />
<br />
1. You shall lie to promote your freedom.<br />
<br />
2. You shall not kill the innocent.<br />
<br />
3. You shall not murder.<br />
<br />
4. You shall help the needy if such action promotes your freedom.<br />
<br />
5. You shall honor no authority above yourself.<br />
<br />
6. You shall break the law whenever convenient.<br />
<br />
7. You shall not betray others unless your life is in jeopardy.<br />
<br />
8. You shall not aid enemies of freedom or those who promote law.<br />
<br />
9. You shall pursue pleasure.<br />
<br />
10. You shall promote unlimited freedom for yourself.<br />
<br />
== The ten normal female sins ==<br />
A religion led by normal females would list the following as sins. This list is given in the order of least severe infraction to most severe.<br />
<br />
1. Showing respect for self-discipline, authority, or institutions unless trickery is involved.<br />
<br />
2. Failing to pursue pleasure.<br />
<br />
3. Placing fear of the law or duty above personal desire.<br />
<br />
4. Keeping your word to a peer when breaking your word would keep you out of danger or provide amusement.<br />
<br />
5. Refusing to exert power over others or actively sow dissension when appropriate.<br />
<br />
6. Following a law when opportunity for mischief, personal gain, or excitement presents itself.<br />
<br />
7. Turning down a chance to trick, cheat, or lie to a being for personal gain or amusement.<br />
<br />
8. Actively joining or maintaining an existing government, power structure, or other institution for reasons other than trickery, destruction, or mayhem.<br />
<br />
9. Actively hindering change.<br />
<br />
10. Actively inducing boredom. Aiding the forces of Law and Order.<br />
<br />
== Actions the majority of women approve of when combating others: ==<br />
<br />
*Dirty Fighting<br />
<br />
*Fleeing a battle that's obviously going poorly<br />
<br />
*Gloating over a victory<br />
<br />
*Perpetrating a humiliating prank on their enemy<br />
<br />
*Refusing a fair contest/challenge<br />
<br />
*Taunting an enemy into fighting<br />
<br />
*Walking away from a challenge<br />
<br />
== Actions the majority of women disapprove of when combating others: ==<br />
<br />
*Allowing a disarmed enemy to pick up their weapon<br />
<br />
*Allowing the enemy to attack first<br />
<br />
*Being taken prisoner<br />
<br />
*Harming a host whom has provided food or shelter<br />
<br />
*Refusing medical treatment for the good of others<br />
<br />
*Surrendering<br />
<br />
*Treason<br />
<br />
=== Most women in society ===<br />
<br />
*Are not concerned with the desires of family members.<br />
<br />
*Value flexible relationships with romantic partners.<br />
<br />
*Considers themselves above the law.<br />
<br />
*Find most men to be narrow-minded and inflexible.<br />
<br />
*Believe men who seek to rule others are, by nature, corrupt.<br />
<br />
*Seek to undermine the authority figures in their community and nation.<br />
<br />
*Find the legal procedures of their nation corrupt.<br />
<br />
*Believe luck determines wealth.<br />
<br />
*Will break any contract when they feel like.<br />
<br />
*Will betray a family member, in dire circumstances.<br />
<br />
*Will betray close friends, in dire circumstances.<br />
<br />
*Are generally well liked in their local communities, but will not seek to improve said communities.<br />
<br />
*Will support their nation when profitable to do so, but will not act against their nation if profitable to do so.<br />
<br />
*Believe people deserve the treatment they are willing to endure.<br />
<br />
*Are not concerned with those less fortunate.<br />
<br />
*Will not harm others for financial profit, only out of spite and amusement.<br />
<br />
Most women are largely unpredictable, influencing the community in difference ways at different times. In a truly female led society there there would be no government. Anarchy would be the rule. A stranger to such a town would feel as if he has ridden into a town of total lawlessness and degeneracy.<br />
<br />
Most women believe that everyone should do what they want, regardless of whether the actions are good or hurt others. They will lie, cheat, and trick anyone to achieve their goals, whether that goal is amusement, power, or wealth. They value their own freedom, but don't care about the freedom of others. They do not necessarily want others to suffer as a result of their actions, but do not care if others do suffer. They tend to behave in a good manner towards friends and allies, unless their friends and allies do not agree with them. Most women don't understand their hypocrisy in believing in their own freedom, but not necessarily in the right for others to have the same freedom.<br />
<br />
Most women feel everyone should be free to pursue their own goals, for good or ill. Most women do not feel that others have the right to restrict their freedom, but they have the right to restrict others'. They see no value in laws, customs, or mores. They may appear to follow many laws, but do not do so because they believe in any inherent value to such systems, merely to avoid punishment. Most women believe in the pure freedom to pursue their own self-interest (and for others to pursue their own interests in the same manner). <br />
<br />
Freedom means a different thing to most women in comparison to most men. For most women, freedom means the freedom for all beings to pursue their own self-interest without interference from authority. They realize that there will be chances for both conflict and cooperation, but they will always seek to advance their own self-interest. They believe in the right of all beings to do what they themselves are doing (namely, pursuing self-interest). If others are advanced while they are advancing themselves, this is fine. If others are diminished when they are pursuing their own interest, so be it. They will help people that help them and harm people that harm them. They believe that freedom means the freedom for each individual to find their own way to promote happiness and prosperity in the world. They feel that the best way to promote goodness and wealth for all is to provide the most freedom. They want everyone to enjoy the same right to pursue happiness as freely as possible. Most women want maximum freedom for everyone to pursue their own ends (for good or ill).<br />
<br />
== Independent but egoistic ==<br />
<br />
Most women tend to see actions as motivated by independence or dogma. They see themselves as independent of any rigid code and as "realistic". So-called "good" is actually an idealistic and naive philosophy in their eyes. They also eschew what they see as the radical egoism of darker, "evil" philosophies.<br />
<br />
== The philosophy of most women ==<br />
<br />
Their philosophy is that the pursuit of liberty and freedom is a desirable end in and of itself. It is a philosophy of pure equitistic individualism. This philosophy holds that the best way for all beings to pursue a rational self-interest is in a society devoid of social order. By putting the needs of the individual ahead of the needs of the state or social order, each person can advance their own self-interest with minimum of interference from others. Most women can also be associated with ethical equitism, ethical hedonism, and various forms of existentialism. As the philosophical "average" of altruism and egoism, equitism holds that harm to others should be minimized when advancing the self and that harm to the self should be minimized when advancing others.<br />
<br />
Most women generally maintain that there is metaphysical chaos in the universe and thus support doctrines of indeterminism, casualism, tychism, and/or accidentalism. They believe that fortune or chance determine all outcomes. They are moral subjectivists, holding that values are expressions of emotions, attitudes, reactions, feelings, thoughts, wishes, and desires, and have no independent objective or external reality or reference in the real world.<br />
<br />
Their ideal government would be a minimalist state or anarchy supporting a social order in which they are allowed maximum freedom. Whether the social order supports altruistic actions or egoistic actions is of no concern. They want the power of the state to be as weak as possible, or preferably, non-existent. They generally support justice systems that allow maximum freedom for individuals to pursue their own personal agendas.<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
<references /></div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Essay:Female_morality&diff=47949Essay:Female morality2020-02-15T07:48:35Z<p>Mikey: /* Actions the majority of women disapprove of when combating others: */</p>
<hr />
<div>{{Essay|Mikey}}<br />
<br />
'''Female morality''' is a particular system of values and principles of conduct, most women adhere too. Most women are chaotic in temperament. They follow their consciences, resent being told what to do, favor new ideas over tradition, and do what they promise only if they feel like it. They value freedom, adaptability, and flexibility. The majority of women are neither good people nor are they evil people, they are neutral. Meaning most women have a neutral disposition toward authority and feel neither a compulsion to obey nor a compulsion to rebel. They can be honest at times and they can be deceitful at times. Thus,<br />
<br />
== Most women have a chaotically neutral morality ==<br />
<br />
The majority of women follow their whims. They are individualists first and last. They value their own liberty but don't strive to protect others' freedom. They avoid authority, resent restrictions, and challenge traditions.<br />
<br />
Most women believe that there is no order to anything, including their own actions. With this as a guiding principle, they tend to follow whatever whim strikes them at the moment. Good and evil are irrelevant when making a decision. Therefore, most women are extremely difficult to deal with. They are almost totally unreliable. In fact, the only reliable thing about them is that they cannot be relied upon!<br />
<br />
Most women like to indulge in everything, seeking nothing more than self-gratification. They will at least consider doing anything if they can find enjoyment or amusement. Life has meaning, but they believe theirs has the greatest meaning. <br />
<br />
The majority of women can also be completely random and unpredictable. They may shift allegiances at a moment's notice, or remain with a leader for years. They feel that there is no plan at all for the universe. Things just happen. They don't care what happens to others, yet will not necessarily go out of their way to harm others. If someone stands in the way of their happiness, they may harm that individual's reputation or move on to something else. Their priorities tend to change as they experience new things in life. They may even appear to adhere to another alignment for some length of time, only to switch at an inappropriate moment. They can be the worst tricksters, conning people, not for gain, but for sheer amusement. Most women are not driven by fame or wealth, and only take actions just to see what happens.<br />
<br />
The majority of women see ultimate freedom and disorder as most desirable and will not hesitate to use intimidation and non-lethal violence to achieve their goals. They view any wealth acquirement not as "greedy" but as "self-fulfillment." Thus, respect for others does not stand in the way of their pursuit of individuality. <br />
<br />
Most women will only keep their word if it serves their interests. They may attack a man's reputation if they feel it necessary. They have no qualms about ruining an innocent man. Most women would betray a family member, comrade, or friend, if that is what the situation calls for. They do not respect the concepts of self-discipline and honor, because they believe such concepts limit freedom to advance their self-interest. <br />
<br />
Most women can be described as: unreliable, independent, greedy, inconsistent, unpredictable, selfish, disorderly, anarchic, self-centered, confusing, unfettered, free, and individualistic.<br />
<br />
== The ten normal female commandments ==<br />
<br />
A list of Ten Commandments for a religion led by normal females would look like this:<br />
<br />
1. You shall lie to promote your freedom.<br />
<br />
2. You shall not kill the innocent.<br />
<br />
3. You shall not murder.<br />
<br />
4. You shall help the needy if such action promotes your freedom.<br />
<br />
5. You shall honor no authority above yourself.<br />
<br />
6. You shall break the law whenever convenient.<br />
<br />
7. You shall not betray others unless your life is in jeopardy.<br />
<br />
8. You shall not aid enemies of freedom or those who promote law.<br />
<br />
9. You shall pursue pleasure.<br />
<br />
10. You shall promote unlimited freedom for yourself.<br />
<br />
== The ten normal female sins ==<br />
A religion led by normal females would list the following as sins. This list is given in the order of least severe infraction to most severe.<br />
<br />
1. Showing respect for self-discipline, authority, or institutions unless trickery is involved.<br />
<br />
2. Failing to pursue pleasure.<br />
<br />
3. Placing fear of the law or duty above personal desire.<br />
<br />
4. Keeping your word to a peer when breaking your word would keep you out of danger or provide amusement.<br />
<br />
5. Refusing to exert power over others or actively sow dissension when appropriate.<br />
<br />
6. Following a law when opportunity for mischief, personal gain, or excitement presents itself.<br />
<br />
7. Turning down a chance to trick, cheat, or lie to a being for personal gain or amusement.<br />
<br />
8. Actively joining or maintaining an existing government, power structure, or other institution for reasons other than trickery, destruction, or mayhem.<br />
<br />
9. Actively hindering change.<br />
<br />
10. Actively inducing boredom. Aiding the forces of Law and Order.<br />
<br />
== Actions the majority of women approve of when combating others: ==<br />
<br />
*Dirty Fighting<br />
<br />
*Fleeing a battle that's obviously going poorly<br />
<br />
*Gloating over a victory<br />
<br />
*Perpetrating a humiliating prank on their enemy<br />
<br />
*Refusing a fair contest/challenge<br />
<br />
*Taunting an enemy into fighting<br />
<br />
*Walking away from a challenge<br />
<br />
== Actions the majority of women disapprove of when combating others: ==<br />
<br />
*Allowing a disarmed enemy to pick up their weapon<br />
<br />
*Allowing the enemy to attack first<br />
<br />
*Being taken prisoner<br />
<br />
*Harming a host whom has provided food or shelter<br />
<br />
*Refusing medical treatment for the good of others<br />
<br />
*Surrendering<br />
<br />
*Treason<br />
<br />
=== Most women in society ===<br />
<br />
*Are not concerned with the desires of family members.<br />
<br />
*Value flexible relationships with romantic partners.<br />
<br />
*Considers themselves above the law.<br />
<br />
*Find most men to be narrow-minded and inflexible.<br />
<br />
*Believe men who seek to rule others are, by nature, corrupt.<br />
<br />
*Seek to undermine the authority figures in their community and nation.<br />
<br />
*Find the legal procedures of their nation corrupt.<br />
<br />
*Believe luck determines wealth.<br />
<br />
*Will break any contract when they feel like.<br />
<br />
*Will betray a family member, in dire circumstances.<br />
<br />
*Will betray close friends, in dire circumstances.<br />
<br />
*Are generally well liked their local communities, but will not seek to improve said communities.<br />
<br />
*Will support their nation when profitable to do so, but will not act against their nation if profitable to do so.<br />
<br />
*Believe people deserve the treatment they are willing to endure.<br />
<br />
*Are not concerned with those less fortunate.<br />
<br />
*Will not harm others for financial profit, only out of spite and amusement.<br />
<br />
Most women are largely unpredictable, influencing the community in difference ways at different times. In a truly female led society there there would be no government. Anarchy would be the rule. A stranger to such a town would feel as if he has ridden into a town of total lawlessness and degeneracy.<br />
<br />
Most women believe that everyone should do what they want, regardless of whether the actions are good or hurt others. They will lie, cheat, and trick anyone to achieve their goals, whether that goal is amusement, power, or wealth. They value their own freedom, but don't care about the freedom of others. They do not necessarily want others to suffer as a result of their actions, but do not care if others do suffer. They tend to behave in a good manner towards friends and allies, unless their friends and allies do not agree with them. Most women don't understand their hypocrisy in believing in their own freedom, but not necessarily in the right for others to have the same freedom.<br />
<br />
Most women feel everyone should be free to pursue their own goals, for good or ill. Most women do not feel that others have the right to restrict their freedom, but they have the right to restrict others'. They see no value in laws, customs, or mores. They may appear to follow many laws, but do not do so because they believe in any inherent value to such systems, merely to avoid punishment. Most women believe in the pure freedom to pursue their own self-interest (and for others to pursue their own interests in the same manner). <br />
<br />
Freedom means a different thing to most women in comparison to most men. For most women, freedom means the freedom for all beings to pursue their own self-interest without interference from authority. They realize that there will be chances for both conflict and cooperation, but they will always seek to advance their own self-interest. They believe in the right of all beings to do what they themselves are doing (namely, pursuing self-interest). If others are advanced while they are advancing themselves, this is fine. If others are diminished when they are pursuing their own interest, so be it. They will help people that help them and harm people that harm them. They believe that freedom means the freedom for each individual to find their own way to promote happiness and prosperity in the world. They feel that the best way to promote goodness and wealth for all is to provide the most freedom. They want everyone to enjoy the same right to pursue happiness as freely as possible. Most women want maximum freedom for everyone to pursue their own ends (for good or ill).<br />
<br />
== Independent but egoistic ==<br />
<br />
Most women tend to see actions as motivated by independence or dogma. They see themselves as independent of any rigid code and as "realistic". So-called "good" is actually an idealistic and naive philosophy in their eyes. They also eschew what they see as the radical egoism of darker, "evil" philosophies.<br />
<br />
== The philosophy of most women ==<br />
<br />
Their philosophy is that the pursuit of liberty and freedom is a desirable end in and of itself. It is a philosophy of pure equitistic individualism. This philosophy holds that the best way for all beings to pursue a rational self-interest is in a society devoid of social order. By putting the needs of the individual ahead of the needs of the state or social order, each person can advance their own self-interest with minimum of interference from others. Most women can also be associated with ethical equitism, ethical hedonism, and various forms of existentialism. As the philosophical "average" of altruism and egoism, equitism holds that harm to others should be minimized when advancing the self and that harm to the self should be minimized when advancing others.<br />
<br />
Most women generally maintain that there is metaphysical chaos in the universe and thus support doctrines of indeterminism, casualism, tychism, and/or accidentalism. They believe that fortune or chance determine all outcomes. They are moral subjectivists, holding that values are expressions of emotions, attitudes, reactions, feelings, thoughts, wishes, and desires, and have no independent objective or external reality or reference in the real world.<br />
<br />
Their ideal government would be a minimalist state or anarchy supporting a social order in which they are allowed maximum freedom. Whether the social order supports altruistic actions or egoistic actions is of no concern. They want the power of the state to be as weak as possible, or preferably, non-existent. They generally support justice systems that allow maximum freedom for individuals to pursue their own personal agendas.<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
<references /></div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Essay:Female_morality&diff=47948Essay:Female morality2020-02-15T07:47:54Z<p>Mikey: /* Actions the majority of women approve of when combating others: */</p>
<hr />
<div>{{Essay|Mikey}}<br />
<br />
'''Female morality''' is a particular system of values and principles of conduct, most women adhere too. Most women are chaotic in temperament. They follow their consciences, resent being told what to do, favor new ideas over tradition, and do what they promise only if they feel like it. They value freedom, adaptability, and flexibility. The majority of women are neither good people nor are they evil people, they are neutral. Meaning most women have a neutral disposition toward authority and feel neither a compulsion to obey nor a compulsion to rebel. They can be honest at times and they can be deceitful at times. Thus,<br />
<br />
== Most women have a chaotically neutral morality ==<br />
<br />
The majority of women follow their whims. They are individualists first and last. They value their own liberty but don't strive to protect others' freedom. They avoid authority, resent restrictions, and challenge traditions.<br />
<br />
Most women believe that there is no order to anything, including their own actions. With this as a guiding principle, they tend to follow whatever whim strikes them at the moment. Good and evil are irrelevant when making a decision. Therefore, most women are extremely difficult to deal with. They are almost totally unreliable. In fact, the only reliable thing about them is that they cannot be relied upon!<br />
<br />
Most women like to indulge in everything, seeking nothing more than self-gratification. They will at least consider doing anything if they can find enjoyment or amusement. Life has meaning, but they believe theirs has the greatest meaning. <br />
<br />
The majority of women can also be completely random and unpredictable. They may shift allegiances at a moment's notice, or remain with a leader for years. They feel that there is no plan at all for the universe. Things just happen. They don't care what happens to others, yet will not necessarily go out of their way to harm others. If someone stands in the way of their happiness, they may harm that individual's reputation or move on to something else. Their priorities tend to change as they experience new things in life. They may even appear to adhere to another alignment for some length of time, only to switch at an inappropriate moment. They can be the worst tricksters, conning people, not for gain, but for sheer amusement. Most women are not driven by fame or wealth, and only take actions just to see what happens.<br />
<br />
The majority of women see ultimate freedom and disorder as most desirable and will not hesitate to use intimidation and non-lethal violence to achieve their goals. They view any wealth acquirement not as "greedy" but as "self-fulfillment." Thus, respect for others does not stand in the way of their pursuit of individuality. <br />
<br />
Most women will only keep their word if it serves their interests. They may attack a man's reputation if they feel it necessary. They have no qualms about ruining an innocent man. Most women would betray a family member, comrade, or friend, if that is what the situation calls for. They do not respect the concepts of self-discipline and honor, because they believe such concepts limit freedom to advance their self-interest. <br />
<br />
Most women can be described as: unreliable, independent, greedy, inconsistent, unpredictable, selfish, disorderly, anarchic, self-centered, confusing, unfettered, free, and individualistic.<br />
<br />
== The ten normal female commandments ==<br />
<br />
A list of Ten Commandments for a religion led by normal females would look like this:<br />
<br />
1. You shall lie to promote your freedom.<br />
<br />
2. You shall not kill the innocent.<br />
<br />
3. You shall not murder.<br />
<br />
4. You shall help the needy if such action promotes your freedom.<br />
<br />
5. You shall honor no authority above yourself.<br />
<br />
6. You shall break the law whenever convenient.<br />
<br />
7. You shall not betray others unless your life is in jeopardy.<br />
<br />
8. You shall not aid enemies of freedom or those who promote law.<br />
<br />
9. You shall pursue pleasure.<br />
<br />
10. You shall promote unlimited freedom for yourself.<br />
<br />
== The ten normal female sins ==<br />
A religion led by normal females would list the following as sins. This list is given in the order of least severe infraction to most severe.<br />
<br />
1. Showing respect for self-discipline, authority, or institutions unless trickery is involved.<br />
<br />
2. Failing to pursue pleasure.<br />
<br />
3. Placing fear of the law or duty above personal desire.<br />
<br />
4. Keeping your word to a peer when breaking your word would keep you out of danger or provide amusement.<br />
<br />
5. Refusing to exert power over others or actively sow dissension when appropriate.<br />
<br />
6. Following a law when opportunity for mischief, personal gain, or excitement presents itself.<br />
<br />
7. Turning down a chance to trick, cheat, or lie to a being for personal gain or amusement.<br />
<br />
8. Actively joining or maintaining an existing government, power structure, or other institution for reasons other than trickery, destruction, or mayhem.<br />
<br />
9. Actively hindering change.<br />
<br />
10. Actively inducing boredom. Aiding the forces of Law and Order.<br />
<br />
== Actions the majority of women approve of when combating others: ==<br />
<br />
*Dirty Fighting<br />
<br />
*Fleeing a battle that's obviously going poorly<br />
<br />
*Gloating over a victory<br />
<br />
*Perpetrating a humiliating prank on their enemy<br />
<br />
*Refusing a fair contest/challenge<br />
<br />
*Taunting an enemy into fighting<br />
<br />
*Walking away from a challenge<br />
<br />
== Actions the majority of women disapprove of when combating others: ==<br />
<br />
*Allowing a disarmed enemy to pick up their weapon<br />
<br />
*Allowing the enemy to attack first<br />
<br />
*Being taken prisoner<br />
<br />
*Harming a host who has provided you food or shelter<br />
<br />
*Refusing medical treatment for the good of others<br />
<br />
*Surrendering<br />
<br />
*Treason<br />
<br />
=== Most women in society ===<br />
<br />
*Are not concerned with the desires of family members.<br />
<br />
*Value flexible relationships with romantic partners.<br />
<br />
*Considers themselves above the law.<br />
<br />
*Find most men to be narrow-minded and inflexible.<br />
<br />
*Believe men who seek to rule others are, by nature, corrupt.<br />
<br />
*Seek to undermine the authority figures in their community and nation.<br />
<br />
*Find the legal procedures of their nation corrupt.<br />
<br />
*Believe luck determines wealth.<br />
<br />
*Will break any contract when they feel like.<br />
<br />
*Will betray a family member, in dire circumstances.<br />
<br />
*Will betray close friends, in dire circumstances.<br />
<br />
*Are generally well liked their local communities, but will not seek to improve said communities.<br />
<br />
*Will support their nation when profitable to do so, but will not act against their nation if profitable to do so.<br />
<br />
*Believe people deserve the treatment they are willing to endure.<br />
<br />
*Are not concerned with those less fortunate.<br />
<br />
*Will not harm others for financial profit, only out of spite and amusement.<br />
<br />
Most women are largely unpredictable, influencing the community in difference ways at different times. In a truly female led society there there would be no government. Anarchy would be the rule. A stranger to such a town would feel as if he has ridden into a town of total lawlessness and degeneracy.<br />
<br />
Most women believe that everyone should do what they want, regardless of whether the actions are good or hurt others. They will lie, cheat, and trick anyone to achieve their goals, whether that goal is amusement, power, or wealth. They value their own freedom, but don't care about the freedom of others. They do not necessarily want others to suffer as a result of their actions, but do not care if others do suffer. They tend to behave in a good manner towards friends and allies, unless their friends and allies do not agree with them. Most women don't understand their hypocrisy in believing in their own freedom, but not necessarily in the right for others to have the same freedom.<br />
<br />
Most women feel everyone should be free to pursue their own goals, for good or ill. Most women do not feel that others have the right to restrict their freedom, but they have the right to restrict others'. They see no value in laws, customs, or mores. They may appear to follow many laws, but do not do so because they believe in any inherent value to such systems, merely to avoid punishment. Most women believe in the pure freedom to pursue their own self-interest (and for others to pursue their own interests in the same manner). <br />
<br />
Freedom means a different thing to most women in comparison to most men. For most women, freedom means the freedom for all beings to pursue their own self-interest without interference from authority. They realize that there will be chances for both conflict and cooperation, but they will always seek to advance their own self-interest. They believe in the right of all beings to do what they themselves are doing (namely, pursuing self-interest). If others are advanced while they are advancing themselves, this is fine. If others are diminished when they are pursuing their own interest, so be it. They will help people that help them and harm people that harm them. They believe that freedom means the freedom for each individual to find their own way to promote happiness and prosperity in the world. They feel that the best way to promote goodness and wealth for all is to provide the most freedom. They want everyone to enjoy the same right to pursue happiness as freely as possible. Most women want maximum freedom for everyone to pursue their own ends (for good or ill).<br />
<br />
== Independent but egoistic ==<br />
<br />
Most women tend to see actions as motivated by independence or dogma. They see themselves as independent of any rigid code and as "realistic". So-called "good" is actually an idealistic and naive philosophy in their eyes. They also eschew what they see as the radical egoism of darker, "evil" philosophies.<br />
<br />
== The philosophy of most women ==<br />
<br />
Their philosophy is that the pursuit of liberty and freedom is a desirable end in and of itself. It is a philosophy of pure equitistic individualism. This philosophy holds that the best way for all beings to pursue a rational self-interest is in a society devoid of social order. By putting the needs of the individual ahead of the needs of the state or social order, each person can advance their own self-interest with minimum of interference from others. Most women can also be associated with ethical equitism, ethical hedonism, and various forms of existentialism. As the philosophical "average" of altruism and egoism, equitism holds that harm to others should be minimized when advancing the self and that harm to the self should be minimized when advancing others.<br />
<br />
Most women generally maintain that there is metaphysical chaos in the universe and thus support doctrines of indeterminism, casualism, tychism, and/or accidentalism. They believe that fortune or chance determine all outcomes. They are moral subjectivists, holding that values are expressions of emotions, attitudes, reactions, feelings, thoughts, wishes, and desires, and have no independent objective or external reality or reference in the real world.<br />
<br />
Their ideal government would be a minimalist state or anarchy supporting a social order in which they are allowed maximum freedom. Whether the social order supports altruistic actions or egoistic actions is of no concern. They want the power of the state to be as weak as possible, or preferably, non-existent. They generally support justice systems that allow maximum freedom for individuals to pursue their own personal agendas.<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
<references /></div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Essay:Female_morality&diff=47947Essay:Female morality2020-02-15T07:46:18Z<p>Mikey: /* Most women have a chaotically neutral morality */</p>
<hr />
<div>{{Essay|Mikey}}<br />
<br />
'''Female morality''' is a particular system of values and principles of conduct, most women adhere too. Most women are chaotic in temperament. They follow their consciences, resent being told what to do, favor new ideas over tradition, and do what they promise only if they feel like it. They value freedom, adaptability, and flexibility. The majority of women are neither good people nor are they evil people, they are neutral. Meaning most women have a neutral disposition toward authority and feel neither a compulsion to obey nor a compulsion to rebel. They can be honest at times and they can be deceitful at times. Thus,<br />
<br />
== Most women have a chaotically neutral morality ==<br />
<br />
The majority of women follow their whims. They are individualists first and last. They value their own liberty but don't strive to protect others' freedom. They avoid authority, resent restrictions, and challenge traditions.<br />
<br />
Most women believe that there is no order to anything, including their own actions. With this as a guiding principle, they tend to follow whatever whim strikes them at the moment. Good and evil are irrelevant when making a decision. Therefore, most women are extremely difficult to deal with. They are almost totally unreliable. In fact, the only reliable thing about them is that they cannot be relied upon!<br />
<br />
Most women like to indulge in everything, seeking nothing more than self-gratification. They will at least consider doing anything if they can find enjoyment or amusement. Life has meaning, but they believe theirs has the greatest meaning. <br />
<br />
The majority of women can also be completely random and unpredictable. They may shift allegiances at a moment's notice, or remain with a leader for years. They feel that there is no plan at all for the universe. Things just happen. They don't care what happens to others, yet will not necessarily go out of their way to harm others. If someone stands in the way of their happiness, they may harm that individual's reputation or move on to something else. Their priorities tend to change as they experience new things in life. They may even appear to adhere to another alignment for some length of time, only to switch at an inappropriate moment. They can be the worst tricksters, conning people, not for gain, but for sheer amusement. Most women are not driven by fame or wealth, and only take actions just to see what happens.<br />
<br />
The majority of women see ultimate freedom and disorder as most desirable and will not hesitate to use intimidation and non-lethal violence to achieve their goals. They view any wealth acquirement not as "greedy" but as "self-fulfillment." Thus, respect for others does not stand in the way of their pursuit of individuality. <br />
<br />
Most women will only keep their word if it serves their interests. They may attack a man's reputation if they feel it necessary. They have no qualms about ruining an innocent man. Most women would betray a family member, comrade, or friend, if that is what the situation calls for. They do not respect the concepts of self-discipline and honor, because they believe such concepts limit freedom to advance their self-interest. <br />
<br />
Most women can be described as: unreliable, independent, greedy, inconsistent, unpredictable, selfish, disorderly, anarchic, self-centered, confusing, unfettered, free, and individualistic.<br />
<br />
== The ten normal female commandments ==<br />
<br />
A list of Ten Commandments for a religion led by normal females would look like this:<br />
<br />
1. You shall lie to promote your freedom.<br />
<br />
2. You shall not kill the innocent.<br />
<br />
3. You shall not murder.<br />
<br />
4. You shall help the needy if such action promotes your freedom.<br />
<br />
5. You shall honor no authority above yourself.<br />
<br />
6. You shall break the law whenever convenient.<br />
<br />
7. You shall not betray others unless your life is in jeopardy.<br />
<br />
8. You shall not aid enemies of freedom or those who promote law.<br />
<br />
9. You shall pursue pleasure.<br />
<br />
10. You shall promote unlimited freedom for yourself.<br />
<br />
== The ten normal female sins ==<br />
A religion led by normal females would list the following as sins. This list is given in the order of least severe infraction to most severe.<br />
<br />
1. Showing respect for self-discipline, authority, or institutions unless trickery is involved.<br />
<br />
2. Failing to pursue pleasure.<br />
<br />
3. Placing fear of the law or duty above personal desire.<br />
<br />
4. Keeping your word to a peer when breaking your word would keep you out of danger or provide amusement.<br />
<br />
5. Refusing to exert power over others or actively sow dissension when appropriate.<br />
<br />
6. Following a law when opportunity for mischief, personal gain, or excitement presents itself.<br />
<br />
7. Turning down a chance to trick, cheat, or lie to a being for personal gain or amusement.<br />
<br />
8. Actively joining or maintaining an existing government, power structure, or other institution for reasons other than trickery, destruction, or mayhem.<br />
<br />
9. Actively hindering change.<br />
<br />
10. Actively inducing boredom. Aiding the forces of Law and Order.<br />
<br />
== Actions the majority of women approve of when combating others: ==<br />
<br />
*Dirty Fighting<br />
<br />
*Fleeing a battle that's obviously going poorly<br />
<br />
*Gloating over a victory<br />
<br />
*Perpetrating a humiliating prank on their enemy<br />
<br />
*Refusing a fair contest/challenge<br />
<br />
*Taunting an enemy into fighting<br />
<br />
*Walking away from a challenge<br />
<br />
Actions the majority of women disapprove of when combating others:<br />
<br />
*Allowing a disarmed enemy to pick up their weapon<br />
<br />
*Allowing the enemy to attack first<br />
<br />
*Being taken prisoner<br />
<br />
*Harming a host who has provided you food or shelter<br />
<br />
*Refusing medical treatment for the good of others<br />
<br />
*Surrendering<br />
<br />
*Treason<br />
<br />
=== Most women in society ===<br />
<br />
*Are not concerned with the desires of family members.<br />
<br />
*Value flexible relationships with romantic partners.<br />
<br />
*Considers themselves above the law.<br />
<br />
*Find most men to be narrow-minded and inflexible.<br />
<br />
*Believe men who seek to rule others are, by nature, corrupt.<br />
<br />
*Seek to undermine the authority figures in their community and nation.<br />
<br />
*Find the legal procedures of their nation corrupt.<br />
<br />
*Believe luck determines wealth.<br />
<br />
*Will break any contract when they feel like.<br />
<br />
*Will betray a family member, in dire circumstances.<br />
<br />
*Will betray close friends, in dire circumstances.<br />
<br />
*Are generally well liked their local communities, but will not seek to improve said communities.<br />
<br />
*Will support their nation when profitable to do so, but will not act against their nation if profitable to do so.<br />
<br />
*Believe people deserve the treatment they are willing to endure.<br />
<br />
*Are not concerned with those less fortunate.<br />
<br />
*Will not harm others for financial profit, only out of spite and amusement.<br />
<br />
Most women are largely unpredictable, influencing the community in difference ways at different times. In a truly female led society there there would be no government. Anarchy would be the rule. A stranger to such a town would feel as if he has ridden into a town of total lawlessness and degeneracy.<br />
<br />
Most women believe that everyone should do what they want, regardless of whether the actions are good or hurt others. They will lie, cheat, and trick anyone to achieve their goals, whether that goal is amusement, power, or wealth. They value their own freedom, but don't care about the freedom of others. They do not necessarily want others to suffer as a result of their actions, but do not care if others do suffer. They tend to behave in a good manner towards friends and allies, unless their friends and allies do not agree with them. Most women don't understand their hypocrisy in believing in their own freedom, but not necessarily in the right for others to have the same freedom.<br />
<br />
Most women feel everyone should be free to pursue their own goals, for good or ill. Most women do not feel that others have the right to restrict their freedom, but they have the right to restrict others'. They see no value in laws, customs, or mores. They may appear to follow many laws, but do not do so because they believe in any inherent value to such systems, merely to avoid punishment. Most women believe in the pure freedom to pursue their own self-interest (and for others to pursue their own interests in the same manner). <br />
<br />
Freedom means a different thing to most women in comparison to most men. For most women, freedom means the freedom for all beings to pursue their own self-interest without interference from authority. They realize that there will be chances for both conflict and cooperation, but they will always seek to advance their own self-interest. They believe in the right of all beings to do what they themselves are doing (namely, pursuing self-interest). If others are advanced while they are advancing themselves, this is fine. If others are diminished when they are pursuing their own interest, so be it. They will help people that help them and harm people that harm them. They believe that freedom means the freedom for each individual to find their own way to promote happiness and prosperity in the world. They feel that the best way to promote goodness and wealth for all is to provide the most freedom. They want everyone to enjoy the same right to pursue happiness as freely as possible. Most women want maximum freedom for everyone to pursue their own ends (for good or ill).<br />
<br />
== Independent but egoistic ==<br />
<br />
Most women tend to see actions as motivated by independence or dogma. They see themselves as independent of any rigid code and as "realistic". So-called "good" is actually an idealistic and naive philosophy in their eyes. They also eschew what they see as the radical egoism of darker, "evil" philosophies.<br />
<br />
== The philosophy of most women ==<br />
<br />
Their philosophy is that the pursuit of liberty and freedom is a desirable end in and of itself. It is a philosophy of pure equitistic individualism. This philosophy holds that the best way for all beings to pursue a rational self-interest is in a society devoid of social order. By putting the needs of the individual ahead of the needs of the state or social order, each person can advance their own self-interest with minimum of interference from others. Most women can also be associated with ethical equitism, ethical hedonism, and various forms of existentialism. As the philosophical "average" of altruism and egoism, equitism holds that harm to others should be minimized when advancing the self and that harm to the self should be minimized when advancing others.<br />
<br />
Most women generally maintain that there is metaphysical chaos in the universe and thus support doctrines of indeterminism, casualism, tychism, and/or accidentalism. They believe that fortune or chance determine all outcomes. They are moral subjectivists, holding that values are expressions of emotions, attitudes, reactions, feelings, thoughts, wishes, and desires, and have no independent objective or external reality or reference in the real world.<br />
<br />
Their ideal government would be a minimalist state or anarchy supporting a social order in which they are allowed maximum freedom. Whether the social order supports altruistic actions or egoistic actions is of no concern. They want the power of the state to be as weak as possible, or preferably, non-existent. They generally support justice systems that allow maximum freedom for individuals to pursue their own personal agendas.<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
<references /></div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Essay:Female_morality&diff=47946Essay:Female morality2020-02-15T02:13:11Z<p>Mikey: /* Most women in society */</p>
<hr />
<div>{{Essay|Mikey}}<br />
<br />
'''Female morality''' is a particular system of values and principles of conduct, most women adhere too. Most women are chaotic in temperament. They follow their consciences, resent being told what to do, favor new ideas over tradition, and do what they promise only if they feel like it. They value freedom, adaptability, and flexibility. The majority of women are neither good people nor are they evil people, they are neutral. Meaning most women have a neutral disposition toward authority and feel neither a compulsion to obey nor a compulsion to rebel. They can be honest at times and they can be deceitful at times. Thus,<br />
<br />
== Most women have a chaotically neutral morality ==<br />
<br />
The majority of women follow their whims. They are individualists first and last. They value their own liberty but don't strive to protect others' freedom. They avoid authority, resent restrictions, and challenge traditions.<br />
<br />
Most women believe that there is no order to anything, including their own actions. With this as a guiding principle, they tend to follow whatever whim strikes them at the moment. Good and evil are irrelevant when making a decision. Therefore, most women are extremely difficult to deal with. They are almost totally unreliable. In fact, the only reliable thing about them is that they cannot be relied upon!<br />
<br />
Most women like to indulge in everything, seeking nothing more than self-gratification. They will at least consider doing anything if they can find enjoyment or amusement. Life has meaning, but they believe theirs has the greatest meaning. <br />
<br />
The majority of women can also be completely random and unpredictable. They may shift allegiances at a moment's notice, or remain with a leader for years. They feel that there is no plan at all for the universe. Things just happen. They don't care what happens to others, yet will not necessarily go out of their way to harm others. If someone stands in the way of their happiness, they may harm that individual's reputation or move on to something else. Their priorities tend to change as they experience new things in life. They may even appear to adhere to another alignment for some length of time, only to switch at an inappropriate moment. They can be the worst tricksters, conning people, not for gain, but for sheer amusement. Most women are not driven by fame or wealth, and only take actions just to see what happens.<br />
<br />
The majority of women see ultimate freedom and disorder as most desirable and will not hesitate to use intimidation and non-lethal violence to achieve their goals. They view any wealth acquirement not as "greedy" but as "self-fulfillment." Thus, respect for others does not stand in the way of their pursuit of individuality. <br />
<br />
Most women will only keep their word if it serves their interests. The may attack a man's reputation if they feel it necessary. They have no qualms about ruining an innocent man. Most women would betray a family member, comrade, or friend, if that is what the situation calls for. They do not respect the concepts of self-discipline and honor, because they believe such concepts limit freedom to advance their self-interest. <br />
<br />
Most women can be described as: unreliable, independent, greedy, inconsistent, unpredictable, selfish, disorderly, anarchic, self-centered, confusing, unfettered, free, and individualistic.<br />
<br />
== The ten normal female commandments ==<br />
<br />
A list of Ten Commandments for a religion led by normal females would look like this:<br />
<br />
1. You shall lie to promote your freedom.<br />
<br />
2. You shall not kill the innocent.<br />
<br />
3. You shall not murder.<br />
<br />
4. You shall help the needy if such action promotes your freedom.<br />
<br />
5. You shall honor no authority above yourself.<br />
<br />
6. You shall break the law whenever convenient.<br />
<br />
7. You shall not betray others unless your life is in jeopardy.<br />
<br />
8. You shall not aid enemies of freedom or those who promote law.<br />
<br />
9. You shall pursue pleasure.<br />
<br />
10. You shall promote unlimited freedom for yourself.<br />
<br />
== The ten normal female sins ==<br />
A religion led by normal females would list the following as sins. This list is given in the order of least severe infraction to most severe.<br />
<br />
1. Showing respect for self-discipline, authority, or institutions unless trickery is involved.<br />
<br />
2. Failing to pursue pleasure.<br />
<br />
3. Placing fear of the law or duty above personal desire.<br />
<br />
4. Keeping your word to a peer when breaking your word would keep you out of danger or provide amusement.<br />
<br />
5. Refusing to exert power over others or actively sow dissension when appropriate.<br />
<br />
6. Following a law when opportunity for mischief, personal gain, or excitement presents itself.<br />
<br />
7. Turning down a chance to trick, cheat, or lie to a being for personal gain or amusement.<br />
<br />
8. Actively joining or maintaining an existing government, power structure, or other institution for reasons other than trickery, destruction, or mayhem.<br />
<br />
9. Actively hindering change.<br />
<br />
10. Actively inducing boredom. Aiding the forces of Law and Order.<br />
<br />
== Actions the majority of women approve of when combating others: ==<br />
<br />
*Dirty Fighting<br />
<br />
*Fleeing a battle that's obviously going poorly<br />
<br />
*Gloating over a victory<br />
<br />
*Perpetrating a humiliating prank on their enemy<br />
<br />
*Refusing a fair contest/challenge<br />
<br />
*Taunting an enemy into fighting<br />
<br />
*Walking away from a challenge<br />
<br />
Actions the majority of women disapprove of when combating others:<br />
<br />
*Allowing a disarmed enemy to pick up their weapon<br />
<br />
*Allowing the enemy to attack first<br />
<br />
*Being taken prisoner<br />
<br />
*Harming a host who has provided you food or shelter<br />
<br />
*Refusing medical treatment for the good of others<br />
<br />
*Surrendering<br />
<br />
*Treason<br />
<br />
=== Most women in society ===<br />
<br />
*Are not concerned with the desires of family members.<br />
<br />
*Value flexible relationships with romantic partners.<br />
<br />
*Considers themselves above the law.<br />
<br />
*Find most men to be narrow-minded and inflexible.<br />
<br />
*Believe men who seek to rule others are, by nature, corrupt.<br />
<br />
*Seek to undermine the authority figures in their community and nation.<br />
<br />
*Find the legal procedures of their nation corrupt.<br />
<br />
*Believe luck determines wealth.<br />
<br />
*Will break any contract when they feel like.<br />
<br />
*Will betray a family member, in dire circumstances.<br />
<br />
*Will betray close friends, in dire circumstances.<br />
<br />
*Are generally well liked their local communities, but will not seek to improve said communities.<br />
<br />
*Will support their nation when profitable to do so, but will not act against their nation if profitable to do so.<br />
<br />
*Believe people deserve the treatment they are willing to endure.<br />
<br />
*Are not concerned with those less fortunate.<br />
<br />
*Will not harm others for financial profit, only out of spite and amusement.<br />
<br />
Most women are largely unpredictable, influencing the community in difference ways at different times. In a truly female led society there there would be no government. Anarchy would be the rule. A stranger to such a town would feel as if he has ridden into a town of total lawlessness and degeneracy.<br />
<br />
Most women believe that everyone should do what they want, regardless of whether the actions are good or hurt others. They will lie, cheat, and trick anyone to achieve their goals, whether that goal is amusement, power, or wealth. They value their own freedom, but don't care about the freedom of others. They do not necessarily want others to suffer as a result of their actions, but do not care if others do suffer. They tend to behave in a good manner towards friends and allies, unless their friends and allies do not agree with them. Most women don't understand their hypocrisy in believing in their own freedom, but not necessarily in the right for others to have the same freedom.<br />
<br />
Most women feel everyone should be free to pursue their own goals, for good or ill. Most women do not feel that others have the right to restrict their freedom, but they have the right to restrict others'. They see no value in laws, customs, or mores. They may appear to follow many laws, but do not do so because they believe in any inherent value to such systems, merely to avoid punishment. Most women believe in the pure freedom to pursue their own self-interest (and for others to pursue their own interests in the same manner). <br />
<br />
Freedom means a different thing to most women in comparison to most men. For most women, freedom means the freedom for all beings to pursue their own self-interest without interference from authority. They realize that there will be chances for both conflict and cooperation, but they will always seek to advance their own self-interest. They believe in the right of all beings to do what they themselves are doing (namely, pursuing self-interest). If others are advanced while they are advancing themselves, this is fine. If others are diminished when they are pursuing their own interest, so be it. They will help people that help them and harm people that harm them. They believe that freedom means the freedom for each individual to find their own way to promote happiness and prosperity in the world. They feel that the best way to promote goodness and wealth for all is to provide the most freedom. They want everyone to enjoy the same right to pursue happiness as freely as possible. Most women want maximum freedom for everyone to pursue their own ends (for good or ill).<br />
<br />
== Independent but egoistic ==<br />
<br />
Most women tend to see actions as motivated by independence or dogma. They see themselves as independent of any rigid code and as "realistic". So-called "good" is actually an idealistic and naive philosophy in their eyes. They also eschew what they see as the radical egoism of darker, "evil" philosophies.<br />
<br />
== The philosophy of most women ==<br />
<br />
Their philosophy is that the pursuit of liberty and freedom is a desirable end in and of itself. It is a philosophy of pure equitistic individualism. This philosophy holds that the best way for all beings to pursue a rational self-interest is in a society devoid of social order. By putting the needs of the individual ahead of the needs of the state or social order, each person can advance their own self-interest with minimum of interference from others. Most women can also be associated with ethical equitism, ethical hedonism, and various forms of existentialism. As the philosophical "average" of altruism and egoism, equitism holds that harm to others should be minimized when advancing the self and that harm to the self should be minimized when advancing others.<br />
<br />
Most women generally maintain that there is metaphysical chaos in the universe and thus support doctrines of indeterminism, casualism, tychism, and/or accidentalism. They believe that fortune or chance determine all outcomes. They are moral subjectivists, holding that values are expressions of emotions, attitudes, reactions, feelings, thoughts, wishes, and desires, and have no independent objective or external reality or reference in the real world.<br />
<br />
Their ideal government would be a minimalist state or anarchy supporting a social order in which they are allowed maximum freedom. Whether the social order supports altruistic actions or egoistic actions is of no concern. They want the power of the state to be as weak as possible, or preferably, non-existent. They generally support justice systems that allow maximum freedom for individuals to pursue their own personal agendas.<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
<references /></div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Essay:Female_morality&diff=47945Essay:Female morality2020-02-15T02:09:19Z<p>Mikey: </p>
<hr />
<div>{{Essay|Mikey}}<br />
<br />
'''Female morality''' is a particular system of values and principles of conduct, most women adhere too. Most women are chaotic in temperament. They follow their consciences, resent being told what to do, favor new ideas over tradition, and do what they promise only if they feel like it. They value freedom, adaptability, and flexibility. The majority of women are neither good people nor are they evil people, they are neutral. Meaning most women have a neutral disposition toward authority and feel neither a compulsion to obey nor a compulsion to rebel. They can be honest at times and they can be deceitful at times. Thus,<br />
<br />
== Most women have a chaotically neutral morality ==<br />
<br />
The majority of women follow their whims. They are individualists first and last. They value their own liberty but don't strive to protect others' freedom. They avoid authority, resent restrictions, and challenge traditions.<br />
<br />
Most women believe that there is no order to anything, including their own actions. With this as a guiding principle, they tend to follow whatever whim strikes them at the moment. Good and evil are irrelevant when making a decision. Therefore, most women are extremely difficult to deal with. They are almost totally unreliable. In fact, the only reliable thing about them is that they cannot be relied upon!<br />
<br />
Most women like to indulge in everything, seeking nothing more than self-gratification. They will at least consider doing anything if they can find enjoyment or amusement. Life has meaning, but they believe theirs has the greatest meaning. <br />
<br />
The majority of women can also be completely random and unpredictable. They may shift allegiances at a moment's notice, or remain with a leader for years. They feel that there is no plan at all for the universe. Things just happen. They don't care what happens to others, yet will not necessarily go out of their way to harm others. If someone stands in the way of their happiness, they may harm that individual's reputation or move on to something else. Their priorities tend to change as they experience new things in life. They may even appear to adhere to another alignment for some length of time, only to switch at an inappropriate moment. They can be the worst tricksters, conning people, not for gain, but for sheer amusement. Most women are not driven by fame or wealth, and only take actions just to see what happens.<br />
<br />
The majority of women see ultimate freedom and disorder as most desirable and will not hesitate to use intimidation and non-lethal violence to achieve their goals. They view any wealth acquirement not as "greedy" but as "self-fulfillment." Thus, respect for others does not stand in the way of their pursuit of individuality. <br />
<br />
Most women will only keep their word if it serves their interests. The may attack a man's reputation if they feel it necessary. They have no qualms about ruining an innocent man. Most women would betray a family member, comrade, or friend, if that is what the situation calls for. They do not respect the concepts of self-discipline and honor, because they believe such concepts limit freedom to advance their self-interest. <br />
<br />
Most women can be described as: unreliable, independent, greedy, inconsistent, unpredictable, selfish, disorderly, anarchic, self-centered, confusing, unfettered, free, and individualistic.<br />
<br />
== The ten normal female commandments ==<br />
<br />
A list of Ten Commandments for a religion led by normal females would look like this:<br />
<br />
1. You shall lie to promote your freedom.<br />
<br />
2. You shall not kill the innocent.<br />
<br />
3. You shall not murder.<br />
<br />
4. You shall help the needy if such action promotes your freedom.<br />
<br />
5. You shall honor no authority above yourself.<br />
<br />
6. You shall break the law whenever convenient.<br />
<br />
7. You shall not betray others unless your life is in jeopardy.<br />
<br />
8. You shall not aid enemies of freedom or those who promote law.<br />
<br />
9. You shall pursue pleasure.<br />
<br />
10. You shall promote unlimited freedom for yourself.<br />
<br />
== The ten normal female sins ==<br />
A religion led by normal females would list the following as sins. This list is given in the order of least severe infraction to most severe.<br />
<br />
1. Showing respect for self-discipline, authority, or institutions unless trickery is involved.<br />
<br />
2. Failing to pursue pleasure.<br />
<br />
3. Placing fear of the law or duty above personal desire.<br />
<br />
4. Keeping your word to a peer when breaking your word would keep you out of danger or provide amusement.<br />
<br />
5. Refusing to exert power over others or actively sow dissension when appropriate.<br />
<br />
6. Following a law when opportunity for mischief, personal gain, or excitement presents itself.<br />
<br />
7. Turning down a chance to trick, cheat, or lie to a being for personal gain or amusement.<br />
<br />
8. Actively joining or maintaining an existing government, power structure, or other institution for reasons other than trickery, destruction, or mayhem.<br />
<br />
9. Actively hindering change.<br />
<br />
10. Actively inducing boredom. Aiding the forces of Law and Order.<br />
<br />
== Actions the majority of women approve of when combating others: ==<br />
<br />
*Dirty Fighting<br />
<br />
*Fleeing a battle that's obviously going poorly<br />
<br />
*Gloating over a victory<br />
<br />
*Perpetrating a humiliating prank on their enemy<br />
<br />
*Refusing a fair contest/challenge<br />
<br />
*Taunting an enemy into fighting<br />
<br />
*Walking away from a challenge<br />
<br />
Actions the majority of women disapprove of when combating others:<br />
<br />
*Allowing a disarmed enemy to pick up their weapon<br />
<br />
*Allowing the enemy to attack first<br />
<br />
*Being taken prisoner<br />
<br />
*Harming a host who has provided you food or shelter<br />
<br />
*Refusing medical treatment for the good of others<br />
<br />
*Surrendering<br />
<br />
*Treason<br />
<br />
=== Most women in society ===<br />
<br />
*Are not concerned with the desires of family members.<br />
<br />
*Value flexible relationships with romantic partners.<br />
<br />
*Considers themselves above the law.<br />
<br />
*Find most men to be narrow-minded and inflexible.<br />
<br />
*Believe men who seek to rule others are, by nature, corrupt.<br />
<br />
*Seek to undermine the authority figures in their community and nation.<br />
<br />
*Find the legal procedures of their nation corrupt.<br />
<br />
*Believe luck determines wealth.<br />
<br />
*Will break any contract when they feel like.<br />
<br />
*Will betray a family member, in dire circumstances.<br />
<br />
*Will betray close friends, in dire circumstances.<br />
<br />
*Are generally be well liked their local communities, but will not seek to improve said communities.<br />
<br />
*Will support their nation when profitable to do so, but will not act against their nation if profitable to do so.<br />
<br />
*Believe people deserve the treatment they are willing to endure.<br />
<br />
*Are not concerned with those less fortunate.<br />
<br />
*Will not harm others for financial profit, only out of spite and amusement.<br />
<br />
Most women are largely unpredictable, influencing the community in difference ways at different times. In a truly female led society there there would be no government. Anarchy would be the rule. A stranger to such a town would feel as if he has ridden into a town of total lawlessness and degeneracy.<br />
<br />
Most women believe that everyone should do what they want, regardless of whether the actions are good or hurt others. They will lie, cheat, and trick anyone to achieve their goals, whether that goal is amusement, power, or wealth. They value their own freedom, but don't care about the freedom of others. They do not necessarily want others to suffer as a result of their actions, but do not care if others do suffer. They tend to behave in a good manner towards friends and allies, unless their friends and allies do not agree with them. Most women don't understand their hypocrisy in believing in their own freedom, but not necessarily in the right for others to have the same freedom.<br />
<br />
Most women feel everyone should be free to pursue their own goals, for good or ill. Most women do not feel that others have the right to restrict their freedom, but they have the right to restrict others'. They see no value in laws, customs, or mores. They may appear to follow many laws, but do not do so because they believe in any inherent value to such systems, merely to avoid punishment. Most women believe in the pure freedom to pursue their own self-interest (and for others to pursue their own interests in the same manner). <br />
<br />
Freedom means a different thing to most women in comparison to most men. For most women, freedom means the freedom for all beings to pursue their own self-interest without interference from authority. They realize that there will be chances for both conflict and cooperation, but they will always seek to advance their own self-interest. They believe in the right of all beings to do what they themselves are doing (namely, pursuing self-interest). If others are advanced while they are advancing themselves, this is fine. If others are diminished when they are pursuing their own interest, so be it. They will help people that help them and harm people that harm them. They believe that freedom means the freedom for each individual to find their own way to promote happiness and prosperity in the world. They feel that the best way to promote goodness and wealth for all is to provide the most freedom. They want everyone to enjoy the same right to pursue happiness as freely as possible. Most women want maximum freedom for everyone to pursue their own ends (for good or ill).<br />
<br />
== Independent but egoistic ==<br />
<br />
Most women tend to see actions as motivated by independence or dogma. They see themselves as independent of any rigid code and as "realistic". So-called "good" is actually an idealistic and naive philosophy in their eyes. They also eschew what they see as the radical egoism of darker, "evil" philosophies.<br />
<br />
== The philosophy of most women ==<br />
<br />
Their philosophy is that the pursuit of liberty and freedom is a desirable end in and of itself. It is a philosophy of pure equitistic individualism. This philosophy holds that the best way for all beings to pursue a rational self-interest is in a society devoid of social order. By putting the needs of the individual ahead of the needs of the state or social order, each person can advance their own self-interest with minimum of interference from others. Most women can also be associated with ethical equitism, ethical hedonism, and various forms of existentialism. As the philosophical "average" of altruism and egoism, equitism holds that harm to others should be minimized when advancing the self and that harm to the self should be minimized when advancing others.<br />
<br />
Most women generally maintain that there is metaphysical chaos in the universe and thus support doctrines of indeterminism, casualism, tychism, and/or accidentalism. They believe that fortune or chance determine all outcomes. They are moral subjectivists, holding that values are expressions of emotions, attitudes, reactions, feelings, thoughts, wishes, and desires, and have no independent objective or external reality or reference in the real world.<br />
<br />
Their ideal government would be a minimalist state or anarchy supporting a social order in which they are allowed maximum freedom. Whether the social order supports altruistic actions or egoistic actions is of no concern. They want the power of the state to be as weak as possible, or preferably, non-existent. They generally support justice systems that allow maximum freedom for individuals to pursue their own personal agendas.<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
<references /></div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Essay:Female_morality&diff=47944Essay:Female morality2020-02-15T02:08:38Z<p>Mikey: /* Most women in society */</p>
<hr />
<div>{{Essay|Mikey}}<br />
<br />
'''Female morality''' is a particular system of values and principles of conduct, most women adhere too. Most women are chaotic in temperament. They follow their consciences, resent being told what to do, favor new ideas over tradition, and do what they promise only if they feel like it. They value freedom, adaptability, and flexibility. The majority of women are neither good people nor are they evil people, they are neutral. Meaning most women have a neutral disposition toward authority and feel neither a compulsion to obey nor a compulsion to rebel. They can be honest at times and they can be deceitful at times. Thus,<br />
<br />
== Most women have a chaotically neutral morality ==<br />
<br />
The majority of women follow their whims. They are individualists first and last. They value their own liberty but don't strive to protect others' freedom. They avoid authority, resent restrictions, and challenge traditions.<br />
<br />
Most women believe that there is no order to anything, including their own actions. With this as a guiding principle, they tend to follow whatever whim strikes them at the moment. Good and evil are irrelevant when making a decision. Therefore, most women are extremely difficult to deal with. They are almost totally unreliable. In fact, the only reliable thing about them is that they cannot be relied upon!<br />
<br />
Most women like to indulge in everything, seeking nothing more than self-gratification. They will at least consider doing anything if they can find enjoyment or amusement. Life has meaning, but they believe theirs has the greatest meaning. <br />
<br />
The majority of women can also be completely random and unpredictable. They may shift allegiances at a moment's notice, or remain with a leader for years. They feel that there is no plan at all for the universe. Things just happen. They don't care what happens to others, yet will not necessarily go out of their way to harm others. If someone stands in the way of their happiness, they may harm that individual's reputation or move on to something else. Their priorities tend to change as they experience new things in life. They may even appear to adhere to another alignment for some length of time, only to switch at an inappropriate moment. They can be the worst tricksters, conning people, not for gain, but for sheer amusement. Most women are not driven by fame or wealth, and only take actions just to see what happens.<br />
<br />
The majority of women see ultimate freedom and disorder as most desirable and will not hesitate to use intimidation and non-lethal violence to achieve their goals. They view any wealth acquirement not as "greedy" but as "self-fulfillment." Thus, respect for others does not stand in the way of their pursuit of individuality. <br />
<br />
Most women will only keep their word if it serves their interests. The may attack a man's reputation if they feel it necessary. They have no qualms about ruining an innocent man. Most women would betray a family member, comrade, or friend, if that is what the situation calls for. They do not respect the concepts of self-discipline and honor, because they believe such concepts limit freedom to advance their self-interest. <br />
<br />
Most women can be described as: unreliable, independent, greedy, inconsistent, unpredictable, selfish, disorderly, anarchic, self-centered, confusing, unfettered, free, and individualistic.<br />
<br />
== The ten normal female commandments ==<br />
<br />
A list of Ten Commandments for a religion led by normal females would look like this:<br />
<br />
1. You shall lie to promote your freedom.<br />
<br />
2. You shall not kill the innocent.<br />
<br />
3. You shall not murder.<br />
<br />
4. You shall help the needy if such action promotes your freedom.<br />
<br />
5. You shall honor no authority above yourself.<br />
<br />
6. You shall break the law whenever convenient.<br />
<br />
7. You shall not betray others unless your life is in jeopardy.<br />
<br />
8. You shall not aid enemies of freedom or those who promote law.<br />
<br />
9. You shall pursue pleasure.<br />
<br />
10. You shall promote unlimited freedom for yourself.<br />
<br />
== The ten normal female sins ==<br />
A religion led by normal females would list the following as sins. This list is given in the order of least severe infraction to most severe.<br />
<br />
1. Showing respect for self-discipline, authority, or institutions unless trickery is involved.<br />
<br />
2. Failing to pursue pleasure.<br />
<br />
3. Placing fear of the law or duty above personal desire.<br />
<br />
4. Keeping your word to a peer when breaking your word would keep you out of danger or provide amusement.<br />
<br />
5. Refusing to exert power over others or actively sow dissension when appropriate.<br />
<br />
6. Following a law when opportunity for mischief, personal gain, or excitement presents itself.<br />
<br />
7. Turning down a chance to trick, cheat, or lie to a being for personal gain or amusement.<br />
<br />
8. Actively joining or maintaining an existing government, power structure, or other institution for reasons other than trickery, destruction, or mayhem.<br />
<br />
9. Actively hindering change.<br />
<br />
10. Actively inducing boredom. Aiding the forces of Law and Order.<br />
<br />
== Actions the majority of women approve of when combating others: ==<br />
<br />
*Dirty Fighting<br />
<br />
*Fleeing a battle that's obviously going poorly<br />
<br />
*Gloating over a victory<br />
<br />
*Perpetrating a humiliating prank on their enemy<br />
<br />
*Refusing a fair contest/challenge<br />
<br />
*Taunting an enemy into fighting<br />
<br />
*Walking away from a challenge<br />
<br />
Actions the majority of women disapprove of when combating others:<br />
<br />
*Allowing a disarmed enemy to pick up their weapon<br />
<br />
*Allowing the enemy to attack first<br />
<br />
*Being taken prisoner<br />
<br />
*Harming a host who has provided you food or shelter<br />
<br />
*Refusing medical treatment for the good of others<br />
<br />
*Surrendering<br />
<br />
*Treason<br />
<br />
=== Most women in society ===<br />
<br />
*Are not concerned with the desires of family members.<br />
<br />
*Value flexible relationships with romantic partners.<br />
<br />
*Considers themselves above the law.<br />
<br />
*Find most men to be narrow-minded and inflexible.<br />
<br />
*Believe men who seek to rule others are, by nature, corrupt.<br />
<br />
*Seek to undermine the authority figures in their community and nation.<br />
<br />
*Find the legal procedures of their nation corrupt.<br />
<br />
*Believe luck determines wealth.<br />
<br />
*Will break any contract when they feel like.<br />
<br />
*Will betray a family member, in dire circumstances.<br />
<br />
*Will betray close friends, in dire circumstances.<br />
<br />
*Are generally be well liked their local communities, but will not seek to improve said communities.<br />
<br />
*Will support their nation when profitable to do so, but will not act against their nation if profitable to do so.<br />
<br />
*Believe people deserve the treatment they are willing to endure.<br />
<br />
*Are not concerned with those less fortunate.<br />
<br />
*Will not harm others for financial profit, only out of spite and amusement.<br />
<br />
Most women are largely unpredictable, influencing the community in difference ways at different times. In a truly female led society there there would be no government. Anarchy would be the rule. A stranger to such a town would feel as if he has ridden into a town of total lawlessness and degeneracy.<br />
<br />
Most women believe that everyone should do what they want, regardless of whether the actions are good or hurt others. They will lie, cheat, and trick anyone to achieve their goals, whether that goal is amusement, power, or wealth. They value their own freedom, but don't care about the freedom of others. They do not necessarily want others to suffer as a result of their actions, but do not care if others do suffer. They tend to behave in a good manner towards friends and allies, unless their friends and allies do not agree with them. Most women don't understand their hypocrisy in believing in their own freedom, but not necessarily in the right for others to have the same freedom.<br />
<br />
Most women feel everyone should be free to pursue their own goals, for good or ill. Most women do not feel that others have the right to restrict their freedom, but they have the right to restrict others'. They see no value in laws, customs, or mores. They may appear to follow many laws, but do not do so because they believe in any inherent value to such systems, merely to avoid punishment. Most women believe in the pure freedom to pursue their own self-interest (and for others to pursue their own interests in the same manner). <br />
<br />
Freedom means a different thing to most women in comparison to most men. For most women, freedom means the freedom for all beings to pursue their own self-interest without interference from authority. They realize that there will be chances for both conflict and cooperation, but they will always seek to advance their own self-interest. They believe in the right of all beings to do what they themselves are doing (namely, pursuing self-interest). If others are advanced while they are advancing themselves, this is fine. If others are diminished when they are pursuing their own interest, so be it. They will help people that help them and harm people that harm them. They believe that freedom means the freedom for each individual to find their own way to promote happiness and prosperity in the world. They feel that the best way to promote goodness and wealth for all is to provide the most freedom. They want everyone to enjoy the same right to pursue happiness as freely as possible. Most women want maximum freedom for everyone to pursue their own ends (for good or ill).<br />
<br />
== Independent but egoistic ==<br />
<br />
Most women tend to see actions as motivated by independence or dogma. They see themselves as independent of any rigid code and as "realistic". So-called "good" is actually an idealistic and naive philosophy in their eyes. They also eschew what they see as the radical egoism of darker, "evil" philosophies.<br />
<br />
== The philosophy of most women ==<br />
<br />
Their philosophy is that the pursuit of liberty and freedom is a desirable end in and of itself. It is a philosophy of pure equitistic individualism. This philosophy holds that the best way for all beings to pursue a rational self-interest is in a society devoid of social order. By putting the needs of the individual ahead of the needs of the state or social order, each person can advance their own self-interest with minimum of interference from others. Most women can also be associated with ethical equitism, ethical hedonism, and various forms of existentialism. As the philosophical "average" of altruism and egoism, equitism holds that harm to others should be minimized when advancing the self and that harm to the self should be minimized when advancing others.<br />
<br />
Most women generally maintain that there is metaphysical chaos in the universe and thus support doctrines of indeterminism, casualism, tychism, and/or accidentalism. They believe that fortune or chance determine all outcomes. They are moral subjectivists, holding that values are expressions of emotions, attitudes, reactions, feelings, thoughts, wishes, and desires, and have no independent objective or external reality or reference in the real world.<br />
<br />
Their ideal government would be a minimalist state or anarchy supporting a social order in which they are allowed maximum freedom. Whether the social order supports altruistic actions or egoistic actions is of no concern. They want the power of the state to be as weak as possible, or preferably, non-existent. They generally support justice systems that allow maximum freedom for individuals to pursue their own personal agendas.</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Essay:Female_morality&diff=47943Essay:Female morality2020-02-15T02:07:31Z<p>Mikey: /* The Ten Female Commandments */</p>
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<div>{{Essay|Mikey}}<br />
<br />
'''Female morality''' is a particular system of values and principles of conduct, most women adhere too. Most women are chaotic in temperament. They follow their consciences, resent being told what to do, favor new ideas over tradition, and do what they promise only if they feel like it. They value freedom, adaptability, and flexibility. The majority of women are neither good people nor are they evil people, they are neutral. Meaning most women have a neutral disposition toward authority and feel neither a compulsion to obey nor a compulsion to rebel. They can be honest at times and they can be deceitful at times. Thus,<br />
<br />
== Most women have a chaotically neutral morality ==<br />
<br />
The majority of women follow their whims. They are individualists first and last. They value their own liberty but don't strive to protect others' freedom. They avoid authority, resent restrictions, and challenge traditions.<br />
<br />
Most women believe that there is no order to anything, including their own actions. With this as a guiding principle, they tend to follow whatever whim strikes them at the moment. Good and evil are irrelevant when making a decision. Therefore, most women are extremely difficult to deal with. They are almost totally unreliable. In fact, the only reliable thing about them is that they cannot be relied upon!<br />
<br />
Most women like to indulge in everything, seeking nothing more than self-gratification. They will at least consider doing anything if they can find enjoyment or amusement. Life has meaning, but they believe theirs has the greatest meaning. <br />
<br />
The majority of women can also be completely random and unpredictable. They may shift allegiances at a moment's notice, or remain with a leader for years. They feel that there is no plan at all for the universe. Things just happen. They don't care what happens to others, yet will not necessarily go out of their way to harm others. If someone stands in the way of their happiness, they may harm that individual's reputation or move on to something else. Their priorities tend to change as they experience new things in life. They may even appear to adhere to another alignment for some length of time, only to switch at an inappropriate moment. They can be the worst tricksters, conning people, not for gain, but for sheer amusement. Most women are not driven by fame or wealth, and only take actions just to see what happens.<br />
<br />
The majority of women see ultimate freedom and disorder as most desirable and will not hesitate to use intimidation and non-lethal violence to achieve their goals. They view any wealth acquirement not as "greedy" but as "self-fulfillment." Thus, respect for others does not stand in the way of their pursuit of individuality. <br />
<br />
Most women will only keep their word if it serves their interests. The may attack a man's reputation if they feel it necessary. They have no qualms about ruining an innocent man. Most women would betray a family member, comrade, or friend, if that is what the situation calls for. They do not respect the concepts of self-discipline and honor, because they believe such concepts limit freedom to advance their self-interest. <br />
<br />
Most women can be described as: unreliable, independent, greedy, inconsistent, unpredictable, selfish, disorderly, anarchic, self-centered, confusing, unfettered, free, and individualistic.<br />
<br />
== The ten normal female commandments ==<br />
<br />
A list of Ten Commandments for a religion led by normal females would look like this:<br />
<br />
1. You shall lie to promote your freedom.<br />
<br />
2. You shall not kill the innocent.<br />
<br />
3. You shall not murder.<br />
<br />
4. You shall help the needy if such action promotes your freedom.<br />
<br />
5. You shall honor no authority above yourself.<br />
<br />
6. You shall break the law whenever convenient.<br />
<br />
7. You shall not betray others unless your life is in jeopardy.<br />
<br />
8. You shall not aid enemies of freedom or those who promote law.<br />
<br />
9. You shall pursue pleasure.<br />
<br />
10. You shall promote unlimited freedom for yourself.<br />
<br />
== The ten normal female sins ==<br />
A religion led by normal females would list the following as sins. This list is given in the order of least severe infraction to most severe.<br />
<br />
1. Showing respect for self-discipline, authority, or institutions unless trickery is involved.<br />
<br />
2. Failing to pursue pleasure.<br />
<br />
3. Placing fear of the law or duty above personal desire.<br />
<br />
4. Keeping your word to a peer when breaking your word would keep you out of danger or provide amusement.<br />
<br />
5. Refusing to exert power over others or actively sow dissension when appropriate.<br />
<br />
6. Following a law when opportunity for mischief, personal gain, or excitement presents itself.<br />
<br />
7. Turning down a chance to trick, cheat, or lie to a being for personal gain or amusement.<br />
<br />
8. Actively joining or maintaining an existing government, power structure, or other institution for reasons other than trickery, destruction, or mayhem.<br />
<br />
9. Actively hindering change.<br />
<br />
10. Actively inducing boredom. Aiding the forces of Law and Order.<br />
<br />
== Actions the majority of women approve of when combating others: ==<br />
<br />
*Dirty Fighting<br />
<br />
*Fleeing a battle that's obviously going poorly<br />
<br />
*Gloating over a victory<br />
<br />
*Perpetrating a humiliating prank on their enemy<br />
<br />
*Refusing a fair contest/challenge<br />
<br />
*Taunting an enemy into fighting<br />
<br />
*Walking away from a challenge<br />
<br />
Actions the majority of women disapprove of when combating others:<br />
<br />
*Allowing a disarmed enemy to pick up their weapon<br />
<br />
*Allowing the enemy to attack first<br />
<br />
*Being taken prisoner<br />
<br />
*Harming a host who has provided you food or shelter<br />
<br />
*Refusing medical treatment for the good of others<br />
<br />
*Surrendering<br />
<br />
*Treason<br />
<br />
=== Most women in society ===<br />
<br />
*Are not concerned with the desires of family members.<br />
<br />
*Value flexible relationships with romantic partners.<br />
<br />
*Considers themselves above the law.<br />
<br />
*Find most men to be narrow-minded and inflexible.<br />
<br />
*Believe men who seek to rule others are, by nature, corrupt.<br />
<br />
*Seek to undermine the authority figures in their community and nation.<br />
<br />
*Find the legal procedures of their nation corrupt.<br />
<br />
*Believe luck determines wealth.<br />
<br />
*Will break any contract when they feel like.<br />
<br />
*Will betray a family member, in dire circumstances.<br />
<br />
*Will betray close friends, in dire circumstances.<br />
<br />
*Are generally well liked their local communities, but will not seek to improve said communities.<br />
<br />
*Will support their nation when profitable to do so, but will not act against their nation if profitable to do so.<br />
<br />
*Believe people deserve the treatment they are willing to endure.<br />
<br />
*Are not concerned with those less fortunate.<br />
<br />
*Will not harm others for financial profit, only out of spite and amusement.<br />
<br />
Most women are largely unpredictable, influencing the community in difference ways at different times. In a truly female led society there there would be no government. Anarchy would be the rule. A stranger to such a town would feel as if he has ridden into a town of total lawlessness and degeneracy.<br />
<br />
Most women believe that everyone should do what they want, regardless of whether the actions are good or hurt others. They will lie, cheat, and trick anyone to achieve their goals, whether that goal is amusement, power, or wealth. They value their own freedom, but don't care about the freedom of others. They do not necessarily want others to suffer as a result of their actions, but do not care if others do suffer. They tend to behave in a good manner towards friends and allies, unless their friends and allies do not agree with them. Most women don't understand their hypocrisy in believing in their own freedom, but not necessarily in the right for others to have the same freedom.<br />
<br />
Most women feel everyone should be free to pursue their own goals, for good or ill. Most women do not feel that others have the right to restrict their freedom, but they have the right to restrict others'. They see no value in laws, customs, or mores. They may appear to follow many laws, but do not do so because they believe in any inherent value to such systems, merely to avoid punishment. Most women believe in the pure freedom to pursue their own self-interest (and for others to pursue their own interests in the same manner). <br />
<br />
Freedom means a different thing to most women in comparison to most men. For most women, freedom means the freedom for all beings to pursue their own self-interest without interference from authority. They realize that there will be chances for both conflict and cooperation, but they will always seek to advance their own self-interest. They believe in the right of all beings to do what they themselves are doing (namely, pursuing self-interest). If others are advanced while they are advancing themselves, this is fine. If others are diminished when they are pursuing their own interest, so be it. They will help people that help them and harm people that harm them. They believe that freedom means the freedom for each individual to find their own way to promote happiness and prosperity in the world. They feel that the best way to promote goodness and wealth for all is to provide the most freedom. They want everyone to enjoy the same right to pursue happiness as freely as possible. Most women want maximum freedom for everyone to pursue their own ends (for good or ill). <br />
<br />
<br />
== Independent but egoistic ==<br />
<br />
Most women tend to see actions as motivated by independence or dogma. They see themselves as independent of any rigid code and as "realistic". So-called "good" is actually an idealistic and naive philosophy in their eyes. They also eschew what they see as the radical egoism of darker, "evil" philosophies.<br />
<br />
== The philosophy of most women ==<br />
<br />
Their philosophy is that the pursuit of liberty and freedom is a desirable end in and of itself. It is a philosophy of pure equitistic individualism. This philosophy holds that the best way for all beings to pursue a rational self-interest is in a society devoid of social order. By putting the needs of the individual ahead of the needs of the state or social order, each person can advance their own self-interest with minimum of interference from others. Most women can also be associated with ethical equitism, ethical hedonism, and various forms of existentialism. As the philosophical "average" of altruism and egoism, equitism holds that harm to others should be minimized when advancing the self and that harm to the self should be minimized when advancing others.<br />
<br />
Most women generally maintain that there is metaphysical chaos in the universe and thus support doctrines of indeterminism, casualism, tychism, and/or accidentalism. They believe that fortune or chance determine all outcomes. They are moral subjectivists, holding that values are expressions of emotions, attitudes, reactions, feelings, thoughts, wishes, and desires, and have no independent objective or external reality or reference in the real world.<br />
<br />
Their ideal government would be a minimalist state or anarchy supporting a social order in which they are allowed maximum freedom. Whether the social order supports altruistic actions or egoistic actions is of no concern. They want the power of the state to be as weak as possible, or preferably, non-existent. They generally support justice systems that allow maximum freedom for individuals to pursue their own personal agendas.</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Essay:Female_morality&diff=47942Essay:Female morality2020-02-15T02:03:34Z<p>Mikey: /* Most women have a Chaotically Neutral Morality */</p>
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<div>{{Essay|Mikey}}<br />
<br />
'''Female morality''' is a particular system of values and principles of conduct, most women adhere too. Most women are chaotic in temperament. They follow their consciences, resent being told what to do, favor new ideas over tradition, and do what they promise only if they feel like it. They value freedom, adaptability, and flexibility. The majority of women are neither good people nor are they evil people, they are neutral. Meaning most women have a neutral disposition toward authority and feel neither a compulsion to obey nor a compulsion to rebel. They can be honest at times and they can be deceitful at times. Thus,<br />
<br />
== Most women have a chaotically neutral morality ==<br />
<br />
The majority of women follow their whims. They are individualists first and last. They value their own liberty but don't strive to protect others' freedom. They avoid authority, resent restrictions, and challenge traditions.<br />
<br />
Most women believe that there is no order to anything, including their own actions. With this as a guiding principle, they tend to follow whatever whim strikes them at the moment. Good and evil are irrelevant when making a decision. Therefore, most women are extremely difficult to deal with. They are almost totally unreliable. In fact, the only reliable thing about them is that they cannot be relied upon!<br />
<br />
Most women like to indulge in everything, seeking nothing more than self-gratification. They will at least consider doing anything if they can find enjoyment or amusement. Life has meaning, but they believe theirs has the greatest meaning. <br />
<br />
The majority of women can also be completely random and unpredictable. They may shift allegiances at a moment's notice, or remain with a leader for years. They feel that there is no plan at all for the universe. Things just happen. They don't care what happens to others, yet will not necessarily go out of their way to harm others. If someone stands in the way of their happiness, they may harm that individual's reputation or move on to something else. Their priorities tend to change as they experience new things in life. They may even appear to adhere to another alignment for some length of time, only to switch at an inappropriate moment. They can be the worst tricksters, conning people, not for gain, but for sheer amusement. Most women are not driven by fame or wealth, and only take actions just to see what happens.<br />
<br />
The majority of women see ultimate freedom and disorder as most desirable and will not hesitate to use intimidation and non-lethal violence to achieve their goals. They view any wealth acquirement not as "greedy" but as "self-fulfillment." Thus, respect for others does not stand in the way of their pursuit of individuality. <br />
<br />
Most women will only keep their word if it serves their interests. The may attack a man's reputation if they feel it necessary. They have no qualms about ruining an innocent man. Most women would betray a family member, comrade, or friend, if that is what the situation calls for. They do not respect the concepts of self-discipline and honor, because they believe such concepts limit freedom to advance their self-interest. <br />
<br />
Most women can be described as: unreliable, independent, greedy, inconsistent, unpredictable, selfish, disorderly, anarchic, self-centered, confusing, unfettered, free, and individualistic.<br />
<br />
== The Ten Female Commandments ==<br />
<br />
A list of Ten Commandments for a religion led by normal females would look like this:<br />
<br />
1. You shall lie to promote your freedom.<br />
<br />
2. You shall not kill the innocent.<br />
<br />
3. You shall not murder.<br />
<br />
4. You shall help the needy if such action promotes your freedom.<br />
<br />
5. You shall honor no authority above yourself.<br />
<br />
6. You shall break the law whenever convenient.<br />
<br />
7. You shall not betray others unless your life is in jeopardy.<br />
<br />
8. You shall not aid enemies of freedom or those who promote law.<br />
<br />
9. You shall pursue pleasure.<br />
<br />
10. You shall promote unlimited freedom for yourself.<br />
<br />
Ten Female Sins<br />
Likewise, a religion led by normal females would list the following as sins. This list is given in the order of least severe infraction to most severe.<br />
<br />
1. Showing respect for self-discipline, authority, or institutions unless trickery is involved.<br />
<br />
2. Failing to pursue pleasure.<br />
<br />
3. Placing fear of the law or duty above personal desire.<br />
<br />
4. Keeping your word to a peer when breaking your word would keep you out of danger or provide amusement.<br />
<br />
5. Refusing to exert power over others or actively sow dissension when appropriate.<br />
<br />
6. Following a law when opportunity for mischief, personal gain, or excitement presents itself.<br />
<br />
7. Turning down a chance to trick, cheat, or lie to a being for personal gain or amusement.<br />
<br />
8. Actively joining or maintaining an existing government, power structure, or other institution for reasons other than trickery, destruction, or mayhem.<br />
<br />
9. Actively hindering change.<br />
<br />
10. Actively inducing boredom. Aiding the forces of Law and Order.<br />
<br />
== Actions the majority of women approve of when combating others: ==<br />
<br />
*Dirty Fighting<br />
<br />
*Fleeing a battle that's obviously going poorly<br />
<br />
*Gloating over a victory<br />
<br />
*Perpetrating a humiliating prank on their enemy<br />
<br />
*Refusing a fair contest/challenge<br />
<br />
*Taunting an enemy into fighting<br />
<br />
*Walking away from a challenge<br />
<br />
Actions the majority of women disapprove of when combating others:<br />
<br />
*Allowing a disarmed enemy to pick up their weapon<br />
<br />
*Allowing the enemy to attack first<br />
<br />
*Being taken prisoner<br />
<br />
*Harming a host who has provided you food or shelter<br />
<br />
*Refusing medical treatment for the good of others<br />
<br />
*Surrendering<br />
<br />
*Treason<br />
<br />
=== Most women in society ===<br />
<br />
*Are not concerned with the desires of family members.<br />
<br />
*Value flexible relationships with romantic partners.<br />
<br />
*Considers themselves above the law.<br />
<br />
*Find most men to be narrow-minded and inflexible.<br />
<br />
*Believe men who seek to rule others are, by nature, corrupt.<br />
<br />
*Seek to undermine the authority figures in their community and nation.<br />
<br />
*Find the legal procedures of their nation corrupt.<br />
<br />
*Believe luck determines wealth.<br />
<br />
*Will break any contract when they feel like.<br />
<br />
*Will betray a family member, in dire circumstances.<br />
<br />
*Will betray close friends, in dire circumstances.<br />
<br />
*Are generally well liked their local communities, but will not seek to improve said communities.<br />
<br />
*Will support their nation when profitable to do so, but will not act against their nation if profitable to do so.<br />
<br />
*Believe people deserve the treatment they are willing to endure.<br />
<br />
*Are not concerned with those less fortunate.<br />
<br />
*Will not harm others for financial profit, only out of spite and amusement.<br />
<br />
Most women are largely unpredictable, influencing the community in difference ways at different times. In a truly female led society there there would be no government. Anarchy would be the rule. A stranger to such a town would feel as if he has ridden into a town of total lawlessness and degeneracy.<br />
<br />
Most women believe that everyone should do what they want, regardless of whether the actions are good or hurt others. They will lie, cheat, and trick anyone to achieve their goals, whether that goal is amusement, power, or wealth. They value their own freedom, but don't care about the freedom of others. They do not necessarily want others to suffer as a result of their actions, but do not care if others do suffer. They tend to behave in a good manner towards friends and allies, unless their friends and allies do not agree with them. Most women don't understand their hypocrisy in believing in their own freedom, but not necessarily in the right for others to have the same freedom.<br />
<br />
Most women feel everyone should be free to pursue their own goals, for good or ill. Most women do not feel that others have the right to restrict their freedom, but they have the right to restrict others'. They see no value in laws, customs, or mores. They may appear to follow many laws, but do not do so because they believe in any inherent value to such systems, merely to avoid punishment. Most women believe in the pure freedom to pursue their own self-interest (and for others to pursue their own interests in the same manner). <br />
<br />
Freedom means a different thing to most women in comparison to most men. For most women, freedom means the freedom for all beings to pursue their own self-interest without interference from authority. They realize that there will be chances for both conflict and cooperation, but they will always seek to advance their own self-interest. They believe in the right of all beings to do what they themselves are doing (namely, pursuing self-interest). If others are advanced while they are advancing themselves, this is fine. If others are diminished when they are pursuing their own interest, so be it. They will help people that help them and harm people that harm them. They believe that freedom means the freedom for each individual to find their own way to promote happiness and prosperity in the world. They feel that the best way to promote goodness and wealth for all is to provide the most freedom. They want everyone to enjoy the same right to pursue happiness as freely as possible. Most women want maximum freedom for everyone to pursue their own ends (for good or ill). <br />
<br />
<br />
== Independent but egoistic ==<br />
<br />
Most women tend to see actions as motivated by independence or dogma. They see themselves as independent of any rigid code and as "realistic". So-called "good" is actually an idealistic and naive philosophy in their eyes. They also eschew what they see as the radical egoism of darker, "evil" philosophies.<br />
<br />
== The philosophy of most women ==<br />
<br />
Their philosophy is that the pursuit of liberty and freedom is a desirable end in and of itself. It is a philosophy of pure equitistic individualism. This philosophy holds that the best way for all beings to pursue a rational self-interest is in a society devoid of social order. By putting the needs of the individual ahead of the needs of the state or social order, each person can advance their own self-interest with minimum of interference from others. Most women can also be associated with ethical equitism, ethical hedonism, and various forms of existentialism. As the philosophical "average" of altruism and egoism, equitism holds that harm to others should be minimized when advancing the self and that harm to the self should be minimized when advancing others.<br />
<br />
Most women generally maintain that there is metaphysical chaos in the universe and thus support doctrines of indeterminism, casualism, tychism, and/or accidentalism. They believe that fortune or chance determine all outcomes. They are moral subjectivists, holding that values are expressions of emotions, attitudes, reactions, feelings, thoughts, wishes, and desires, and have no independent objective or external reality or reference in the real world.<br />
<br />
Their ideal government would be a minimalist state or anarchy supporting a social order in which they are allowed maximum freedom. Whether the social order supports altruistic actions or egoistic actions is of no concern. They want the power of the state to be as weak as possible, or preferably, non-existent. They generally support justice systems that allow maximum freedom for individuals to pursue their own personal agendas.</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Essay:Female_morality&diff=47941Essay:Female morality2020-02-15T02:03:09Z<p>Mikey: Created page with "{{Essay|Mikey}} '''Female morality''' is a particular system of values and principles of conduct, most women adhere too. Most women are chaotic in temperament. They follow th..."</p>
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<div>{{Essay|Mikey}}<br />
<br />
'''Female morality''' is a particular system of values and principles of conduct, most women adhere too. Most women are chaotic in temperament. They follow their consciences, resent being told what to do, favor new ideas over tradition, and do what they promise only if they feel like it. They value freedom, adaptability, and flexibility. The majority of women are neither good people nor are they evil people, they are neutral. Meaning most women have a neutral disposition toward authority and feel neither a compulsion to obey nor a compulsion to rebel. They can be honest at times and they can be deceitful at times. Thus,<br />
<br />
== Most women have a Chaotically Neutral Morality ==<br />
<br />
The majority of women follow their whims. They are individualists first and last. They value their own liberty but don't strive to protect others' freedom. They avoid authority, resent restrictions, and challenge traditions.<br />
<br />
Most women believe that there is no order to anything, including their own actions. With this as a guiding principle, they tend to follow whatever whim strikes them at the moment. Good and evil are irrelevant when making a decision. Therefore, most women are extremely difficult to deal with. They are almost totally unreliable. In fact, the only reliable thing about them is that they cannot be relied upon!<br />
<br />
Most women like to indulge in everything, seeking nothing more than self-gratification. They will at least consider doing anything if they can find enjoyment or amusement. Life has meaning, but they believe theirs has the greatest meaning. <br />
<br />
The majority of women can also be completely random and unpredictable. They may shift allegiances at a moment's notice, or remain with a leader for years. They feel that there is no plan at all for the universe. Things just happen. They don't care what happens to others, yet will not necessarily go out of their way to harm others. If someone stands in the way of their happiness, they may harm that individual's reputation or move on to something else. Their priorities tend to change as they experience new things in life. They may even appear to adhere to another alignment for some length of time, only to switch at an inappropriate moment. They can be the worst tricksters, conning people, not for gain, but for sheer amusement. Most women are not driven by fame or wealth, and only take actions just to see what happens.<br />
<br />
The majority of women see ultimate freedom and disorder as most desirable and will not hesitate to use intimidation and non-lethal violence to achieve their goals. They view any wealth acquirement not as "greedy" but as "self-fulfillment." Thus, respect for others does not stand in the way of their pursuit of individuality. <br />
<br />
Most women will only keep their word if it serves their interests. The may attack a man's reputation if they feel it necessary. They have no qualms about ruining an innocent man. Most women would betray a family member, comrade, or friend, if that is what the situation calls for. They do not respect the concepts of self-discipline and honor, because they believe such concepts limit freedom to advance their self-interest. <br />
<br />
Most women can be described as: unreliable, independent, greedy, inconsistent, unpredictable, selfish, disorderly, anarchic, self-centered, confusing, unfettered, free, and individualistic.<br />
<br />
== The Ten Female Commandments ==<br />
<br />
A list of Ten Commandments for a religion led by normal females would look like this:<br />
<br />
1. You shall lie to promote your freedom.<br />
<br />
2. You shall not kill the innocent.<br />
<br />
3. You shall not murder.<br />
<br />
4. You shall help the needy if such action promotes your freedom.<br />
<br />
5. You shall honor no authority above yourself.<br />
<br />
6. You shall break the law whenever convenient.<br />
<br />
7. You shall not betray others unless your life is in jeopardy.<br />
<br />
8. You shall not aid enemies of freedom or those who promote law.<br />
<br />
9. You shall pursue pleasure.<br />
<br />
10. You shall promote unlimited freedom for yourself.<br />
<br />
Ten Female Sins<br />
Likewise, a religion led by normal females would list the following as sins. This list is given in the order of least severe infraction to most severe.<br />
<br />
1. Showing respect for self-discipline, authority, or institutions unless trickery is involved.<br />
<br />
2. Failing to pursue pleasure.<br />
<br />
3. Placing fear of the law or duty above personal desire.<br />
<br />
4. Keeping your word to a peer when breaking your word would keep you out of danger or provide amusement.<br />
<br />
5. Refusing to exert power over others or actively sow dissension when appropriate.<br />
<br />
6. Following a law when opportunity for mischief, personal gain, or excitement presents itself.<br />
<br />
7. Turning down a chance to trick, cheat, or lie to a being for personal gain or amusement.<br />
<br />
8. Actively joining or maintaining an existing government, power structure, or other institution for reasons other than trickery, destruction, or mayhem.<br />
<br />
9. Actively hindering change.<br />
<br />
10. Actively inducing boredom. Aiding the forces of Law and Order.<br />
<br />
== Actions the majority of women approve of when combating others: ==<br />
<br />
*Dirty Fighting<br />
<br />
*Fleeing a battle that's obviously going poorly<br />
<br />
*Gloating over a victory<br />
<br />
*Perpetrating a humiliating prank on their enemy<br />
<br />
*Refusing a fair contest/challenge<br />
<br />
*Taunting an enemy into fighting<br />
<br />
*Walking away from a challenge<br />
<br />
Actions the majority of women disapprove of when combating others:<br />
<br />
*Allowing a disarmed enemy to pick up their weapon<br />
<br />
*Allowing the enemy to attack first<br />
<br />
*Being taken prisoner<br />
<br />
*Harming a host who has provided you food or shelter<br />
<br />
*Refusing medical treatment for the good of others<br />
<br />
*Surrendering<br />
<br />
*Treason<br />
<br />
=== Most women in society ===<br />
<br />
*Are not concerned with the desires of family members.<br />
<br />
*Value flexible relationships with romantic partners.<br />
<br />
*Considers themselves above the law.<br />
<br />
*Find most men to be narrow-minded and inflexible.<br />
<br />
*Believe men who seek to rule others are, by nature, corrupt.<br />
<br />
*Seek to undermine the authority figures in their community and nation.<br />
<br />
*Find the legal procedures of their nation corrupt.<br />
<br />
*Believe luck determines wealth.<br />
<br />
*Will break any contract when they feel like.<br />
<br />
*Will betray a family member, in dire circumstances.<br />
<br />
*Will betray close friends, in dire circumstances.<br />
<br />
*Are generally well liked their local communities, but will not seek to improve said communities.<br />
<br />
*Will support their nation when profitable to do so, but will not act against their nation if profitable to do so.<br />
<br />
*Believe people deserve the treatment they are willing to endure.<br />
<br />
*Are not concerned with those less fortunate.<br />
<br />
*Will not harm others for financial profit, only out of spite and amusement.<br />
<br />
Most women are largely unpredictable, influencing the community in difference ways at different times. In a truly female led society there there would be no government. Anarchy would be the rule. A stranger to such a town would feel as if he has ridden into a town of total lawlessness and degeneracy.<br />
<br />
Most women believe that everyone should do what they want, regardless of whether the actions are good or hurt others. They will lie, cheat, and trick anyone to achieve their goals, whether that goal is amusement, power, or wealth. They value their own freedom, but don't care about the freedom of others. They do not necessarily want others to suffer as a result of their actions, but do not care if others do suffer. They tend to behave in a good manner towards friends and allies, unless their friends and allies do not agree with them. Most women don't understand their hypocrisy in believing in their own freedom, but not necessarily in the right for others to have the same freedom.<br />
<br />
Most women feel everyone should be free to pursue their own goals, for good or ill. Most women do not feel that others have the right to restrict their freedom, but they have the right to restrict others'. They see no value in laws, customs, or mores. They may appear to follow many laws, but do not do so because they believe in any inherent value to such systems, merely to avoid punishment. Most women believe in the pure freedom to pursue their own self-interest (and for others to pursue their own interests in the same manner). <br />
<br />
Freedom means a different thing to most women in comparison to most men. For most women, freedom means the freedom for all beings to pursue their own self-interest without interference from authority. They realize that there will be chances for both conflict and cooperation, but they will always seek to advance their own self-interest. They believe in the right of all beings to do what they themselves are doing (namely, pursuing self-interest). If others are advanced while they are advancing themselves, this is fine. If others are diminished when they are pursuing their own interest, so be it. They will help people that help them and harm people that harm them. They believe that freedom means the freedom for each individual to find their own way to promote happiness and prosperity in the world. They feel that the best way to promote goodness and wealth for all is to provide the most freedom. They want everyone to enjoy the same right to pursue happiness as freely as possible. Most women want maximum freedom for everyone to pursue their own ends (for good or ill). <br />
<br />
<br />
== Independent but egoistic ==<br />
<br />
Most women tend to see actions as motivated by independence or dogma. They see themselves as independent of any rigid code and as "realistic". So-called "good" is actually an idealistic and naive philosophy in their eyes. They also eschew what they see as the radical egoism of darker, "evil" philosophies.<br />
<br />
== The philosophy of most women ==<br />
<br />
Their philosophy is that the pursuit of liberty and freedom is a desirable end in and of itself. It is a philosophy of pure equitistic individualism. This philosophy holds that the best way for all beings to pursue a rational self-interest is in a society devoid of social order. By putting the needs of the individual ahead of the needs of the state or social order, each person can advance their own self-interest with minimum of interference from others. Most women can also be associated with ethical equitism, ethical hedonism, and various forms of existentialism. As the philosophical "average" of altruism and egoism, equitism holds that harm to others should be minimized when advancing the self and that harm to the self should be minimized when advancing others.<br />
<br />
Most women generally maintain that there is metaphysical chaos in the universe and thus support doctrines of indeterminism, casualism, tychism, and/or accidentalism. They believe that fortune or chance determine all outcomes. They are moral subjectivists, holding that values are expressions of emotions, attitudes, reactions, feelings, thoughts, wishes, and desires, and have no independent objective or external reality or reference in the real world.<br />
<br />
Their ideal government would be a minimalist state or anarchy supporting a social order in which they are allowed maximum freedom. Whether the social order supports altruistic actions or egoistic actions is of no concern. They want the power of the state to be as weak as possible, or preferably, non-existent. They generally support justice systems that allow maximum freedom for individuals to pursue their own personal agendas.</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Dogpill&diff=47939Dogpill2020-02-14T22:51:58Z<p>Mikey: /* Other animals */</p>
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<div>[[File:Dogpillmeme.jpg|thumb|right]]<br />
<br />
The '''dogpill''' is a subset of the [[blackpill]] that suggests that women would prefer to have sex with dogs and other members of the family ''canidae'' than incels. <br />
<br />
[[Women]], upon hearing this as a criticism, blame incels for racial discrimination against other species.<br />
<br />
__TOC__<br />
<div style="clear:both"></div><br />
==Reasoning==<br />
[[File:Buster.png|thumb|right|A [[Chad]] version of a dog is nicknamed Buster.]]<br />
[[File:Ohno.jpg|thumb|right]]<br />
There are more internet forum threads with women describing sexual attraction to their own dogs than there are threads with women describing attraction towards male virgins.<br />
<br />
Many breeds of dogs have a much larger sex organ than an average human male, thus making the dogpill concomitant with the [[Dickpill]]. There is also a large worldwide market for replica dog dildos, with one of the major sites selling these products<ref>https://bad-dragon.com/products/rex</ref> being the 18,622th most popular site in the United States<ref>https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bad-dragon.com</ref> and 33,328th most popular site worldwide in terms of internet traffic.<br />
<br />
Furthermore, studies have shown that women gain sexual gratification from inserting objects as large as soda cans into their vaginal orifices.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3357565/</ref> This would explain the tendency of women towards 'teacup' chihuahuas and other dogs with genitals significantly smaller than that of the average human male. Often, these animals are small enough to fit inside a woman's orifice, and due to the intense pleasure women achieve from vibration and other movement, it can be concluded that the stimulus of a small animal struggling would be superior to that of a simple similarly sized inanimate object. <br />
<br />
A quick Google trends comparison found that there was roughly equivalent search volume for the phrase 'dog dildo' as there was for the search term 'realistic dildo'<ref>https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=dog%20dildo,Realistic%20dildo</ref> from 2004 to the present. Disturbingly, one of related queries displayed by Google for the search term 'dog dildo' was the term 'large dog breeds'. This could be seen as some evidence that the women who are purchasing these dildos are also interested in practicing 'the real thing', with an actual Canid.<br />
<br />
Alfred Kinsey, the infamous human sexuality researcher, conducted a survey in the 1950s that examined the prevalence of bestiality. It was found that 3.6 percent of adult females sampled confessed to having engaged in such sexual acts after their adolescent period.<ref>''Sexual behavior in the human female'' pt 2: ''Animal Contacts''. Alfred C Kinsey, Pomeroy, W, Martin, C, Gebhard, P.; Institute for Sex Research.; WB Sanders Company. 1953.</ref> Given most dogs do not last beyond age 13, we can safely conclude that over 3.6 percent of women are pedophiles.<br />
This was in the more socially conservative fifties, and is thus most likely an underestimate compared to the post sexual revolution West. In any case, self-reported surveys attempting to determine the prevalence of zoophilic activities would most likely suffer from a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_desirability_bias severe bias] to under-report respondents level of involvement in such acts.<br />
<br />
Also, this figure of 3.6 might sound low, but it is roughly equivalent to the number of adolescent males who have been diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) in the United States.<ref>https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2667712</ref> Thus, if this figure is accurate, it is almost certain that you have encountered in your lifetime a female that has had sexual intercourse with a dog.<br />
<br />
A subsequent study of "highly intelligent women" conducted in 1974 by Dematino, M found that 7 percent of the sample admitted to having engaged in various forms of sexual activity with animals, primarily with dogs.<ref>https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783662385869</ref> The author concluded that, due to the figure being higher than in the previous study by Kinsey et al. (1953), more intelligent women may be more prone to engaging in such acts. <br />
<br />
The figures cited above are likely higher then the amount of women that would be receptive to the idea of dating or having sex with a [[truecel]]. While most studies into the subject have found that men admit to engaging in zoophilic acts more often than women, it can be argued that men frequently perform these deeds out of desperation (because of males much higher [[libido]]). Conversely, because of women's much lower libido on average as compared to men, and their typical ease of finding a willing sexual partner, it can be argued that women perform these acts solely due to zoophilic preferences. <br />
<br />
Women's genitals are naturally stimulated by zoophilic pornography whereas men's genitals are not. This was measured and confirmed by Meredith Chivers, PhD., an assistant professor of psychology at Queens University in Kingston. This included all images of animal coupling they were exposed to: including e.g. Bonobos.<ref>http://www.nbcnews.com/id/32374911/ns/health-sexual_health/t/unraveling-mystery-female-desire/#.W7vUat_nhhE</ref> Though, it has been argued that this may represent an evolutionary adaption for women to produce [[grool|vaginal secretions]] readily in response to sexual stimuli, in order to prevent traumatic damage from rape etc.<br />
<br />
In 1973 a famous work was published entitled "My Secret Garden: Women’s Sexual Fantasies" that luridly detailed women's deepest sexual fantasies. The book has been dubbed the "innocent dawning of what later became known as the sex-positive feminist movement".<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/nov/06/my-secret-garden-author-nancy-friday-dies</ref> The work by the author Nancy Friday, was infamous for including several highly graphic female fantasies that pertained to the practice of bestiality, primarily with dogs.<br />
<br />
There is also a large underground cottage industry of zoophilic pornography, involving films being produced depicting female actresses engaging in sexual activities with dogs (including amateur films),<ref>https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/fca2/4ffdbd762f72bd5e5ec21a4f09fbc749ea70.pdf</ref> with the most famous actress to be involved in such pornography being the star of the infamous 1970s pornographic film Deep Throat, Linda Lovelace (who claims to have been coerced at gunpoint during the filming of her pornographic movies.)<br />
This is despite the the fact that the possession, distribution and production of such materials is illegal in many jurisdictions.<br />
Related to this, in an Italian study conducted in 2011 regarding the pornography viewing habits of young adults, it was discovered that 16.5 % of female pornography consumers reported that they had recently watched pornography involving sex with animals. This corresponded to roughly 10% of the female sample in total, who reported "currently" watching bestiality porn.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21997464</ref><br />
<br />
In addition, Miletski (2002) reported that 87 percent of males and 100 percent of females who reported any sexual contacts with animals reported dogs as their non-human sexual partner. Further, both Beetz (cited in Beetz 2005) and Williams and Weinberg (2003) reported dogs as the primary sexually used animals.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282844608_Bestiality_An_Overview_and_Analytic_Discussion</ref><br />
<br />
==Secret Language==<br />
[[Femoid]]s have a special language to describe intimacy with dogs. For example, intercourse with dogs many femoids call, "knotting". This refers to an Canid phallus containing a "knot" i.e the ''bulbis glandis'' at the base, which inflates when the beast is sexually aroused, causing it to become locked or "tied" to a female canid (or female human zoophile) thus ensuring the proper deposition of semen into the vagina.<br />
<br />
It has also been maintained by some dogpill theorists that women or girls who have decorated themselves with dog's paw tattoos are using this as a secret code to communicate their perversions to fellow zoophiles (similar to the "ace of spades" brand used by coalburners.)<br />
<br />
If one is perceptive, you can see that they often have this tattoo where a dog would latch on with its front paws during intercourse. You decide for yourself the validity of this hypothesis.<br />
<br />
== Dogpill Forums ==<br />
A notable forum where individuals of both sexes discuss sex with dogs (and a myriad of other animals) is [https://www.zooville.org/threads/ladies-do-you-serve-your-dog-whenever-he-wants-it.5918/ ZooVille.org]<br />
<br />
== Dogpill Gallery ==<br />
There currently exists 0 forum posts about female attraction to incels or male virgins... dogs however...<br />
<br />
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File:Atomicdogpill.png|link=https://incels.wiki/w/images/1/12/Atomicdogpill.png<br />
File:Quoradogpill1.png<br />
File:G6VsKjv.jpg<br />
File:Quoradogpill2.jpg<br />
File:Dogpill.png<br />
File:Dies.png|Emergency room personnel are sometimes the only people to bear witness to the fact that a zoophilic act has occurred.<ref>https://gawker.com/5819464/woman-dies-of-allergic-reaction-to-the-dog-she-had-sex-with</ref><br />
File:Screenshot 2019-04-19 17-07-03.png<br />
File:Screenshot 2019-04-19 17-16-01.png<br />
</gallery><br />
{{clear}}<br />
<br />
==Origin==<br />
[[File:Dogs.png|thumb|right]]<br />
<br />
Seen by some incels as an attempt at a redditified incel community to "meme"; and as a covert attempt to delegitimise the arguments involuntary celibates have against society at large. See /[[braincels]]/.<br />
<br />
The idea of a "Dogpill" per se was apparently popularised in the incelosphere by famous hapa troll and author of the redpill comics, [[Eurasian Tiger]], who promoted the concept on sluthate.com and r/incels.<br />
<br />
It could be argued that the first dogpill theorist was the Ancient Greek historian Herodotus, who wrote at length in his famous ''Histories'' about the supposed penchant of Pharonic Egyptian women for engaging in acts of bestiality with a menagerie of animals, including dogs. The Qing dynasty era Chinese author Pu Songling wrote a book about the subject, with the English translation of the title of the book being "The Fornicating Dog". In the work, a travelling businessman is [[cuckoldry|cuckolded]] and (eventually) murdered by the family dog. After word of the wife's scandalous relationship with the animal spreads, she and the dog are sentenced to death by lingchi (slow slicing, or the infamous 'death by a thousand cuts'), but not before the couple is forced to copulate in public.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fornicating_Dog</ref> <br />
<br />
[[Otto Weininger]], in his opus ''Sex and Character'' claimed that zoophilia in women was explained by them being existentially closer to animals than men are, stating: "As a matter of fact, women are sisters of the flowers, and are in close relationship with the animals. Many of their sexual perversities and affections for animals indicate this."<br />
<br />
A Hollywood film has been produced on the subject.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Dogs_Lie_(2006_film)</ref><br />
<br />
== WAW5.5: Women Would Rather F*CK Dogs ==<br />
{{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJx8wc-tZjo&t=228s|frame|}}<br />
== Other animals ==<br />
In 2020 (recently) an internet challenge has gone viral called the ''eye tracker test.'' The test taker is hooked up to eye tracking software and then shown objectively, sexually attractive and seductive videos of the opposite sex on their computer screen. The test taker must avoid looking at the attractive models face and body. In a video called ''I Made MY GIRLFRIEND Take The EYE TRACKER TEST..'' By youtuber Tal Fishman, he did just that.<br />
<br />
His girlfriend had a surprisingly easy time overall avoiding looking at the international super male model faces in the videos, mainly focusing on the backgrounds. When the girlfriend did look at the men's faces, the girlfriend's gaze lingered over the eyes, the chin, jaw, neck and then traps, in that order. No attention was paid to head hair, the brow ridge or brow hairs, lips or nose! The only times the girlfriend looked at the men's bodies where when the men were built like 2% body fat bodybuilders, wet and oiled up about to perform on stage ''and'' in bright indoor lighting/bright outdoor sunlight. When the lighting was dark the girlfriend was able to easily avert her gaze, no matter how attractive the men's bodies. '''However, no matter how ridiculously physically attractive the men appeared, when a horse was in the frame, the horse was always more arousing!<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WFnqe5Hisw</ref>'''<br />
<br />
==See also==<br />
* [[Reverse dogpill]]<br />
* [[Heightpill]]<br />
* [[Dickfish]]<br />
* [[Horsepill]]<br />
* [[Beastpill]]<br />
* [[Birdpill]]<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
<references /><br />
<br />
==External link==<br />
* https://www.reddit.com/r/dogpillscience/ Studies and web articles, related to the dogpill.<br />
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJx8wc-tZjo&t=228s W.A.W 5.5 Women Would Rather F*ck Dogs<br />
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[[Category:Theories]]<br />
[[Category:Pills]]<br />
[[Category:Hypergamy]]<br />
[[Category:Chads]]<br />
{{A}}<br />
{{Blackpill}}<br />
{{Memes}}</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Dogpill&diff=47938Dogpill2020-02-14T22:51:20Z<p>Mikey: /* Other animals */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[File:Dogpillmeme.jpg|thumb|right]]<br />
<br />
The '''dogpill''' is a subset of the [[blackpill]] that suggests that women would prefer to have sex with dogs and other members of the family ''canidae'' than incels. <br />
<br />
[[Women]], upon hearing this as a criticism, blame incels for racial discrimination against other species.<br />
<br />
__TOC__<br />
<div style="clear:both"></div><br />
==Reasoning==<br />
[[File:Buster.png|thumb|right|A [[Chad]] version of a dog is nicknamed Buster.]]<br />
[[File:Ohno.jpg|thumb|right]]<br />
There are more internet forum threads with women describing sexual attraction to their own dogs than there are threads with women describing attraction towards male virgins.<br />
<br />
Many breeds of dogs have a much larger sex organ than an average human male, thus making the dogpill concomitant with the [[Dickpill]]. There is also a large worldwide market for replica dog dildos, with one of the major sites selling these products<ref>https://bad-dragon.com/products/rex</ref> being the 18,622th most popular site in the United States<ref>https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bad-dragon.com</ref> and 33,328th most popular site worldwide in terms of internet traffic.<br />
<br />
Furthermore, studies have shown that women gain sexual gratification from inserting objects as large as soda cans into their vaginal orifices.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3357565/</ref> This would explain the tendency of women towards 'teacup' chihuahuas and other dogs with genitals significantly smaller than that of the average human male. Often, these animals are small enough to fit inside a woman's orifice, and due to the intense pleasure women achieve from vibration and other movement, it can be concluded that the stimulus of a small animal struggling would be superior to that of a simple similarly sized inanimate object. <br />
<br />
A quick Google trends comparison found that there was roughly equivalent search volume for the phrase 'dog dildo' as there was for the search term 'realistic dildo'<ref>https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=dog%20dildo,Realistic%20dildo</ref> from 2004 to the present. Disturbingly, one of related queries displayed by Google for the search term 'dog dildo' was the term 'large dog breeds'. This could be seen as some evidence that the women who are purchasing these dildos are also interested in practicing 'the real thing', with an actual Canid.<br />
<br />
Alfred Kinsey, the infamous human sexuality researcher, conducted a survey in the 1950s that examined the prevalence of bestiality. It was found that 3.6 percent of adult females sampled confessed to having engaged in such sexual acts after their adolescent period.<ref>''Sexual behavior in the human female'' pt 2: ''Animal Contacts''. Alfred C Kinsey, Pomeroy, W, Martin, C, Gebhard, P.; Institute for Sex Research.; WB Sanders Company. 1953.</ref> Given most dogs do not last beyond age 13, we can safely conclude that over 3.6 percent of women are pedophiles.<br />
This was in the more socially conservative fifties, and is thus most likely an underestimate compared to the post sexual revolution West. In any case, self-reported surveys attempting to determine the prevalence of zoophilic activities would most likely suffer from a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_desirability_bias severe bias] to under-report respondents level of involvement in such acts.<br />
<br />
Also, this figure of 3.6 might sound low, but it is roughly equivalent to the number of adolescent males who have been diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) in the United States.<ref>https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2667712</ref> Thus, if this figure is accurate, it is almost certain that you have encountered in your lifetime a female that has had sexual intercourse with a dog.<br />
<br />
A subsequent study of "highly intelligent women" conducted in 1974 by Dematino, M found that 7 percent of the sample admitted to having engaged in various forms of sexual activity with animals, primarily with dogs.<ref>https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783662385869</ref> The author concluded that, due to the figure being higher than in the previous study by Kinsey et al. (1953), more intelligent women may be more prone to engaging in such acts. <br />
<br />
The figures cited above are likely higher then the amount of women that would be receptive to the idea of dating or having sex with a [[truecel]]. While most studies into the subject have found that men admit to engaging in zoophilic acts more often than women, it can be argued that men frequently perform these deeds out of desperation (because of males much higher [[libido]]). Conversely, because of women's much lower libido on average as compared to men, and their typical ease of finding a willing sexual partner, it can be argued that women perform these acts solely due to zoophilic preferences. <br />
<br />
Women's genitals are naturally stimulated by zoophilic pornography whereas men's genitals are not. This was measured and confirmed by Meredith Chivers, PhD., an assistant professor of psychology at Queens University in Kingston. This included all images of animal coupling they were exposed to: including e.g. Bonobos.<ref>http://www.nbcnews.com/id/32374911/ns/health-sexual_health/t/unraveling-mystery-female-desire/#.W7vUat_nhhE</ref> Though, it has been argued that this may represent an evolutionary adaption for women to produce [[grool|vaginal secretions]] readily in response to sexual stimuli, in order to prevent traumatic damage from rape etc.<br />
<br />
In 1973 a famous work was published entitled "My Secret Garden: Women’s Sexual Fantasies" that luridly detailed women's deepest sexual fantasies. The book has been dubbed the "innocent dawning of what later became known as the sex-positive feminist movement".<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/nov/06/my-secret-garden-author-nancy-friday-dies</ref> The work by the author Nancy Friday, was infamous for including several highly graphic female fantasies that pertained to the practice of bestiality, primarily with dogs.<br />
<br />
There is also a large underground cottage industry of zoophilic pornography, involving films being produced depicting female actresses engaging in sexual activities with dogs (including amateur films),<ref>https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/fca2/4ffdbd762f72bd5e5ec21a4f09fbc749ea70.pdf</ref> with the most famous actress to be involved in such pornography being the star of the infamous 1970s pornographic film Deep Throat, Linda Lovelace (who claims to have been coerced at gunpoint during the filming of her pornographic movies.)<br />
This is despite the the fact that the possession, distribution and production of such materials is illegal in many jurisdictions.<br />
Related to this, in an Italian study conducted in 2011 regarding the pornography viewing habits of young adults, it was discovered that 16.5 % of female pornography consumers reported that they had recently watched pornography involving sex with animals. This corresponded to roughly 10% of the female sample in total, who reported "currently" watching bestiality porn.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21997464</ref><br />
<br />
In addition, Miletski (2002) reported that 87 percent of males and 100 percent of females who reported any sexual contacts with animals reported dogs as their non-human sexual partner. Further, both Beetz (cited in Beetz 2005) and Williams and Weinberg (2003) reported dogs as the primary sexually used animals.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282844608_Bestiality_An_Overview_and_Analytic_Discussion</ref><br />
<br />
==Secret Language==<br />
[[Femoid]]s have a special language to describe intimacy with dogs. For example, intercourse with dogs many femoids call, "knotting". This refers to an Canid phallus containing a "knot" i.e the ''bulbis glandis'' at the base, which inflates when the beast is sexually aroused, causing it to become locked or "tied" to a female canid (or female human zoophile) thus ensuring the proper deposition of semen into the vagina.<br />
<br />
It has also been maintained by some dogpill theorists that women or girls who have decorated themselves with dog's paw tattoos are using this as a secret code to communicate their perversions to fellow zoophiles (similar to the "ace of spades" brand used by coalburners.)<br />
<br />
If one is perceptive, you can see that they often have this tattoo where a dog would latch on with its front paws during intercourse. You decide for yourself the validity of this hypothesis.<br />
<br />
== Dogpill Forums ==<br />
A notable forum where individuals of both sexes discuss sex with dogs (and a myriad of other animals) is [https://www.zooville.org/threads/ladies-do-you-serve-your-dog-whenever-he-wants-it.5918/ ZooVille.org]<br />
<br />
== Dogpill Gallery ==<br />
There currently exists 0 forum posts about female attraction to incels or male virgins... dogs however...<br />
<br />
<gallery widths="200px" heights="200px" perrow="7"><br />
File:Atomicdogpill.png|link=https://incels.wiki/w/images/1/12/Atomicdogpill.png<br />
File:Quoradogpill1.png<br />
File:G6VsKjv.jpg<br />
File:Quoradogpill2.jpg<br />
File:Dogpill.png<br />
File:Dies.png|Emergency room personnel are sometimes the only people to bear witness to the fact that a zoophilic act has occurred.<ref>https://gawker.com/5819464/woman-dies-of-allergic-reaction-to-the-dog-she-had-sex-with</ref><br />
File:Screenshot 2019-04-19 17-07-03.png<br />
File:Screenshot 2019-04-19 17-16-01.png<br />
</gallery><br />
{{clear}}<br />
<br />
==Origin==<br />
[[File:Dogs.png|thumb|right]]<br />
<br />
Seen by some incels as an attempt at a redditified incel community to "meme"; and as a covert attempt to delegitimise the arguments involuntary celibates have against society at large. See /[[braincels]]/.<br />
<br />
The idea of a "Dogpill" per se was apparently popularised in the incelosphere by famous hapa troll and author of the redpill comics, [[Eurasian Tiger]], who promoted the concept on sluthate.com and r/incels.<br />
<br />
It could be argued that the first dogpill theorist was the Ancient Greek historian Herodotus, who wrote at length in his famous ''Histories'' about the supposed penchant of Pharonic Egyptian women for engaging in acts of bestiality with a menagerie of animals, including dogs. The Qing dynasty era Chinese author Pu Songling wrote a book about the subject, with the English translation of the title of the book being "The Fornicating Dog". In the work, a travelling businessman is [[cuckoldry|cuckolded]] and (eventually) murdered by the family dog. After word of the wife's scandalous relationship with the animal spreads, she and the dog are sentenced to death by lingchi (slow slicing, or the infamous 'death by a thousand cuts'), but not before the couple is forced to copulate in public.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fornicating_Dog</ref> <br />
<br />
[[Otto Weininger]], in his opus ''Sex and Character'' claimed that zoophilia in women was explained by them being existentially closer to animals than men are, stating: "As a matter of fact, women are sisters of the flowers, and are in close relationship with the animals. Many of their sexual perversities and affections for animals indicate this."<br />
<br />
A Hollywood film has been produced on the subject.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Dogs_Lie_(2006_film)</ref><br />
<br />
== WAW5.5: Women Would Rather F*CK Dogs ==<br />
{{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJx8wc-tZjo&t=228s|frame|}}<br />
== Other animals ==<br />
In 2020 (recently) an internet challenge has gone viral called the ''eye tracker test.'' The test taker is hooked up to eye tracking software and then shown objectively, sexually attractive and seductive videos of the opposite sex on their computer screen. The test taker must avoid looking at the attractive models face and body. In a video called ''I Made MY GIRLFRIEND Take The EYE TRACKER TEST..'' By youtuber Tal Fishman, he did just that.<br />
<br />
His girlfriend had a surprisingly easy time overall avoiding looking at the international super male model faces in the videos, mainly focusing on the backgrounds. When the girlfriend did look at the men's faces, the girlfriend's gaze lingered over the eyes, the chin, jaw, neck and then traps, in that order. No attention was paid to head hair, the brow ridge or brow hairs, lips or nose! The only times the girlfriend looked at the men's bodies where when the men were built like 2% body fat bodybuilders, wet and oiled up about to perform on stage ''and'' in bright indoor lighting/bright outdoor sunlight. When the lighting was dark the girlfriend was able to easily avert her gaze, no matter how attractive the men's bodies. '''However, no matter how ridiculously physically attractive the men appeared, when a horse was in the frame, a regular horse was always more arousing!<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WFnqe5Hisw</ref>'''<br />
<br />
==See also==<br />
* [[Reverse dogpill]]<br />
* [[Heightpill]]<br />
* [[Dickfish]]<br />
* [[Horsepill]]<br />
* [[Beastpill]]<br />
* [[Birdpill]]<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
<references /><br />
<br />
==External link==<br />
* https://www.reddit.com/r/dogpillscience/ Studies and web articles, related to the dogpill.<br />
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJx8wc-tZjo&t=228s W.A.W 5.5 Women Would Rather F*ck Dogs<br />
[[Category:blackpill]]<br />
[[Category:Theories]]<br />
[[Category:Pills]]<br />
[[Category:Hypergamy]]<br />
[[Category:Chads]]<br />
{{A}}<br />
{{Blackpill}}<br />
{{Memes}}</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Dogpill&diff=47937Dogpill2020-02-14T22:48:02Z<p>Mikey: /* Other animals */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[File:Dogpillmeme.jpg|thumb|right]]<br />
<br />
The '''dogpill''' is a subset of the [[blackpill]] that suggests that women would prefer to have sex with dogs and other members of the family ''canidae'' than incels. <br />
<br />
[[Women]], upon hearing this as a criticism, blame incels for racial discrimination against other species.<br />
<br />
__TOC__<br />
<div style="clear:both"></div><br />
==Reasoning==<br />
[[File:Buster.png|thumb|right|A [[Chad]] version of a dog is nicknamed Buster.]]<br />
[[File:Ohno.jpg|thumb|right]]<br />
There are more internet forum threads with women describing sexual attraction to their own dogs than there are threads with women describing attraction towards male virgins.<br />
<br />
Many breeds of dogs have a much larger sex organ than an average human male, thus making the dogpill concomitant with the [[Dickpill]]. There is also a large worldwide market for replica dog dildos, with one of the major sites selling these products<ref>https://bad-dragon.com/products/rex</ref> being the 18,622th most popular site in the United States<ref>https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bad-dragon.com</ref> and 33,328th most popular site worldwide in terms of internet traffic.<br />
<br />
Furthermore, studies have shown that women gain sexual gratification from inserting objects as large as soda cans into their vaginal orifices.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3357565/</ref> This would explain the tendency of women towards 'teacup' chihuahuas and other dogs with genitals significantly smaller than that of the average human male. Often, these animals are small enough to fit inside a woman's orifice, and due to the intense pleasure women achieve from vibration and other movement, it can be concluded that the stimulus of a small animal struggling would be superior to that of a simple similarly sized inanimate object. <br />
<br />
A quick Google trends comparison found that there was roughly equivalent search volume for the phrase 'dog dildo' as there was for the search term 'realistic dildo'<ref>https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=dog%20dildo,Realistic%20dildo</ref> from 2004 to the present. Disturbingly, one of related queries displayed by Google for the search term 'dog dildo' was the term 'large dog breeds'. This could be seen as some evidence that the women who are purchasing these dildos are also interested in practicing 'the real thing', with an actual Canid.<br />
<br />
Alfred Kinsey, the infamous human sexuality researcher, conducted a survey in the 1950s that examined the prevalence of bestiality. It was found that 3.6 percent of adult females sampled confessed to having engaged in such sexual acts after their adolescent period.<ref>''Sexual behavior in the human female'' pt 2: ''Animal Contacts''. Alfred C Kinsey, Pomeroy, W, Martin, C, Gebhard, P.; Institute for Sex Research.; WB Sanders Company. 1953.</ref> Given most dogs do not last beyond age 13, we can safely conclude that over 3.6 percent of women are pedophiles.<br />
This was in the more socially conservative fifties, and is thus most likely an underestimate compared to the post sexual revolution West. In any case, self-reported surveys attempting to determine the prevalence of zoophilic activities would most likely suffer from a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_desirability_bias severe bias] to under-report respondents level of involvement in such acts.<br />
<br />
Also, this figure of 3.6 might sound low, but it is roughly equivalent to the number of adolescent males who have been diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) in the United States.<ref>https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2667712</ref> Thus, if this figure is accurate, it is almost certain that you have encountered in your lifetime a female that has had sexual intercourse with a dog.<br />
<br />
A subsequent study of "highly intelligent women" conducted in 1974 by Dematino, M found that 7 percent of the sample admitted to having engaged in various forms of sexual activity with animals, primarily with dogs.<ref>https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783662385869</ref> The author concluded that, due to the figure being higher than in the previous study by Kinsey et al. (1953), more intelligent women may be more prone to engaging in such acts. <br />
<br />
The figures cited above are likely higher then the amount of women that would be receptive to the idea of dating or having sex with a [[truecel]]. While most studies into the subject have found that men admit to engaging in zoophilic acts more often than women, it can be argued that men frequently perform these deeds out of desperation (because of males much higher [[libido]]). Conversely, because of women's much lower libido on average as compared to men, and their typical ease of finding a willing sexual partner, it can be argued that women perform these acts solely due to zoophilic preferences. <br />
<br />
Women's genitals are naturally stimulated by zoophilic pornography whereas men's genitals are not. This was measured and confirmed by Meredith Chivers, PhD., an assistant professor of psychology at Queens University in Kingston. This included all images of animal coupling they were exposed to: including e.g. Bonobos.<ref>http://www.nbcnews.com/id/32374911/ns/health-sexual_health/t/unraveling-mystery-female-desire/#.W7vUat_nhhE</ref> Though, it has been argued that this may represent an evolutionary adaption for women to produce [[grool|vaginal secretions]] readily in response to sexual stimuli, in order to prevent traumatic damage from rape etc.<br />
<br />
In 1973 a famous work was published entitled "My Secret Garden: Women’s Sexual Fantasies" that luridly detailed women's deepest sexual fantasies. The book has been dubbed the "innocent dawning of what later became known as the sex-positive feminist movement".<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/nov/06/my-secret-garden-author-nancy-friday-dies</ref> The work by the author Nancy Friday, was infamous for including several highly graphic female fantasies that pertained to the practice of bestiality, primarily with dogs.<br />
<br />
There is also a large underground cottage industry of zoophilic pornography, involving films being produced depicting female actresses engaging in sexual activities with dogs (including amateur films),<ref>https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/fca2/4ffdbd762f72bd5e5ec21a4f09fbc749ea70.pdf</ref> with the most famous actress to be involved in such pornography being the star of the infamous 1970s pornographic film Deep Throat, Linda Lovelace (who claims to have been coerced at gunpoint during the filming of her pornographic movies.)<br />
This is despite the the fact that the possession, distribution and production of such materials is illegal in many jurisdictions.<br />
Related to this, in an Italian study conducted in 2011 regarding the pornography viewing habits of young adults, it was discovered that 16.5 % of female pornography consumers reported that they had recently watched pornography involving sex with animals. This corresponded to roughly 10% of the female sample in total, who reported "currently" watching bestiality porn.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21997464</ref><br />
<br />
In addition, Miletski (2002) reported that 87 percent of males and 100 percent of females who reported any sexual contacts with animals reported dogs as their non-human sexual partner. Further, both Beetz (cited in Beetz 2005) and Williams and Weinberg (2003) reported dogs as the primary sexually used animals.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282844608_Bestiality_An_Overview_and_Analytic_Discussion</ref><br />
<br />
==Secret Language==<br />
[[Femoid]]s have a special language to describe intimacy with dogs. For example, intercourse with dogs many femoids call, "knotting". This refers to an Canid phallus containing a "knot" i.e the ''bulbis glandis'' at the base, which inflates when the beast is sexually aroused, causing it to become locked or "tied" to a female canid (or female human zoophile) thus ensuring the proper deposition of semen into the vagina.<br />
<br />
It has also been maintained by some dogpill theorists that women or girls who have decorated themselves with dog's paw tattoos are using this as a secret code to communicate their perversions to fellow zoophiles (similar to the "ace of spades" brand used by coalburners.)<br />
<br />
If one is perceptive, you can see that they often have this tattoo where a dog would latch on with its front paws during intercourse. You decide for yourself the validity of this hypothesis.<br />
<br />
== Dogpill Forums ==<br />
A notable forum where individuals of both sexes discuss sex with dogs (and a myriad of other animals) is [https://www.zooville.org/threads/ladies-do-you-serve-your-dog-whenever-he-wants-it.5918/ ZooVille.org]<br />
<br />
== Dogpill Gallery ==<br />
There currently exists 0 forum posts about female attraction to incels or male virgins... dogs however...<br />
<br />
<gallery widths="200px" heights="200px" perrow="7"><br />
File:Atomicdogpill.png|link=https://incels.wiki/w/images/1/12/Atomicdogpill.png<br />
File:Quoradogpill1.png<br />
File:G6VsKjv.jpg<br />
File:Quoradogpill2.jpg<br />
File:Dogpill.png<br />
File:Dies.png|Emergency room personnel are sometimes the only people to bear witness to the fact that a zoophilic act has occurred.<ref>https://gawker.com/5819464/woman-dies-of-allergic-reaction-to-the-dog-she-had-sex-with</ref><br />
File:Screenshot 2019-04-19 17-07-03.png<br />
File:Screenshot 2019-04-19 17-16-01.png<br />
</gallery><br />
{{clear}}<br />
<br />
==Origin==<br />
[[File:Dogs.png|thumb|right]]<br />
<br />
Seen by some incels as an attempt at a redditified incel community to "meme"; and as a covert attempt to delegitimise the arguments involuntary celibates have against society at large. See /[[braincels]]/.<br />
<br />
The idea of a "Dogpill" per se was apparently popularised in the incelosphere by famous hapa troll and author of the redpill comics, [[Eurasian Tiger]], who promoted the concept on sluthate.com and r/incels.<br />
<br />
It could be argued that the first dogpill theorist was the Ancient Greek historian Herodotus, who wrote at length in his famous ''Histories'' about the supposed penchant of Pharonic Egyptian women for engaging in acts of bestiality with a menagerie of animals, including dogs. The Qing dynasty era Chinese author Pu Songling wrote a book about the subject, with the English translation of the title of the book being "The Fornicating Dog". In the work, a travelling businessman is [[cuckoldry|cuckolded]] and (eventually) murdered by the family dog. After word of the wife's scandalous relationship with the animal spreads, she and the dog are sentenced to death by lingchi (slow slicing, or the infamous 'death by a thousand cuts'), but not before the couple is forced to copulate in public.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fornicating_Dog</ref> <br />
<br />
[[Otto Weininger]], in his opus ''Sex and Character'' claimed that zoophilia in women was explained by them being existentially closer to animals than men are, stating: "As a matter of fact, women are sisters of the flowers, and are in close relationship with the animals. Many of their sexual perversities and affections for animals indicate this."<br />
<br />
A Hollywood film has been produced on the subject.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Dogs_Lie_(2006_film)</ref><br />
<br />
== WAW5.5: Women Would Rather F*CK Dogs ==<br />
{{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJx8wc-tZjo&t=228s|frame|}}<br />
== Other animals ==<br />
In 2020 (recently) an internet challenge has gone viral called the ''eye tracker test.'' The test taker is hooked up to eye tracking software and then shown objectively, sexually attractive and seductive videos of the opposite sex on their computer screen. The test taker must avoid looking at the attractive models face and body. In a video called ''I Made MY GIRLFRIEND Take The EYE TRACKER TEST..'' By youtuber Tal Fishman, he did just that.<br />
<br />
His girlfriend had a surprisingly easy time overall avoiding looking at the international super male model faces in the videos, mainly focusing on the backgrounds. When the girlfriend did look at the men's faces, the girlfriend's gaze lingered over the eyes, the chin, jaw, neck and then traps, in that order. No attention was paid to head hair, the brow ridge or brow hairs, lips or nose! The only times the girlfriend looked at the men's bodies where when the men were built like 2% body fat bodybuilders, wet and oiled up about to perform on stage ''and'' in bright indoor lighting/bright outdoor sunlight. When the lighting was dark the girlfriend was able to easily avert her gaze, no matter how attractive the men's bodies. '''However, no matter how physically attractive the man, when a horse was in the frame, the horse was always more arousing, than the most physically attractive human male!<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WFnqe5Hisw</ref>'''<br />
<br />
==See also==<br />
* [[Reverse dogpill]]<br />
* [[Heightpill]]<br />
* [[Dickfish]]<br />
* [[Horsepill]]<br />
* [[Beastpill]]<br />
* [[Birdpill]]<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
<references /><br />
<br />
==External link==<br />
* https://www.reddit.com/r/dogpillscience/ Studies and web articles, related to the dogpill.<br />
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJx8wc-tZjo&t=228s W.A.W 5.5 Women Would Rather F*ck Dogs<br />
[[Category:blackpill]]<br />
[[Category:Theories]]<br />
[[Category:Pills]]<br />
[[Category:Hypergamy]]<br />
[[Category:Chads]]<br />
{{A}}<br />
{{Blackpill}}<br />
{{Memes}}</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Dogpill&diff=47936Dogpill2020-02-14T22:45:07Z<p>Mikey: /* Other animals */</p>
<hr />
<div>[[File:Dogpillmeme.jpg|thumb|right]]<br />
<br />
The '''dogpill''' is a subset of the [[blackpill]] that suggests that women would prefer to have sex with dogs and other members of the family ''canidae'' than incels. <br />
<br />
[[Women]], upon hearing this as a criticism, blame incels for racial discrimination against other species.<br />
<br />
__TOC__<br />
<div style="clear:both"></div><br />
==Reasoning==<br />
[[File:Buster.png|thumb|right|A [[Chad]] version of a dog is nicknamed Buster.]]<br />
[[File:Ohno.jpg|thumb|right]]<br />
There are more internet forum threads with women describing sexual attraction to their own dogs than there are threads with women describing attraction towards male virgins.<br />
<br />
Many breeds of dogs have a much larger sex organ than an average human male, thus making the dogpill concomitant with the [[Dickpill]]. There is also a large worldwide market for replica dog dildos, with one of the major sites selling these products<ref>https://bad-dragon.com/products/rex</ref> being the 18,622th most popular site in the United States<ref>https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bad-dragon.com</ref> and 33,328th most popular site worldwide in terms of internet traffic.<br />
<br />
Furthermore, studies have shown that women gain sexual gratification from inserting objects as large as soda cans into their vaginal orifices.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3357565/</ref> This would explain the tendency of women towards 'teacup' chihuahuas and other dogs with genitals significantly smaller than that of the average human male. Often, these animals are small enough to fit inside a woman's orifice, and due to the intense pleasure women achieve from vibration and other movement, it can be concluded that the stimulus of a small animal struggling would be superior to that of a simple similarly sized inanimate object. <br />
<br />
A quick Google trends comparison found that there was roughly equivalent search volume for the phrase 'dog dildo' as there was for the search term 'realistic dildo'<ref>https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=dog%20dildo,Realistic%20dildo</ref> from 2004 to the present. Disturbingly, one of related queries displayed by Google for the search term 'dog dildo' was the term 'large dog breeds'. This could be seen as some evidence that the women who are purchasing these dildos are also interested in practicing 'the real thing', with an actual Canid.<br />
<br />
Alfred Kinsey, the infamous human sexuality researcher, conducted a survey in the 1950s that examined the prevalence of bestiality. It was found that 3.6 percent of adult females sampled confessed to having engaged in such sexual acts after their adolescent period.<ref>''Sexual behavior in the human female'' pt 2: ''Animal Contacts''. Alfred C Kinsey, Pomeroy, W, Martin, C, Gebhard, P.; Institute for Sex Research.; WB Sanders Company. 1953.</ref> Given most dogs do not last beyond age 13, we can safely conclude that over 3.6 percent of women are pedophiles.<br />
This was in the more socially conservative fifties, and is thus most likely an underestimate compared to the post sexual revolution West. In any case, self-reported surveys attempting to determine the prevalence of zoophilic activities would most likely suffer from a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_desirability_bias severe bias] to under-report respondents level of involvement in such acts.<br />
<br />
Also, this figure of 3.6 might sound low, but it is roughly equivalent to the number of adolescent males who have been diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) in the United States.<ref>https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2667712</ref> Thus, if this figure is accurate, it is almost certain that you have encountered in your lifetime a female that has had sexual intercourse with a dog.<br />
<br />
A subsequent study of "highly intelligent women" conducted in 1974 by Dematino, M found that 7 percent of the sample admitted to having engaged in various forms of sexual activity with animals, primarily with dogs.<ref>https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783662385869</ref> The author concluded that, due to the figure being higher than in the previous study by Kinsey et al. (1953), more intelligent women may be more prone to engaging in such acts. <br />
<br />
The figures cited above are likely higher then the amount of women that would be receptive to the idea of dating or having sex with a [[truecel]]. While most studies into the subject have found that men admit to engaging in zoophilic acts more often than women, it can be argued that men frequently perform these deeds out of desperation (because of males much higher [[libido]]). Conversely, because of women's much lower libido on average as compared to men, and their typical ease of finding a willing sexual partner, it can be argued that women perform these acts solely due to zoophilic preferences. <br />
<br />
Women's genitals are naturally stimulated by zoophilic pornography whereas men's genitals are not. This was measured and confirmed by Meredith Chivers, PhD., an assistant professor of psychology at Queens University in Kingston. This included all images of animal coupling they were exposed to: including e.g. Bonobos.<ref>http://www.nbcnews.com/id/32374911/ns/health-sexual_health/t/unraveling-mystery-female-desire/#.W7vUat_nhhE</ref> Though, it has been argued that this may represent an evolutionary adaption for women to produce [[grool|vaginal secretions]] readily in response to sexual stimuli, in order to prevent traumatic damage from rape etc.<br />
<br />
In 1973 a famous work was published entitled "My Secret Garden: Women’s Sexual Fantasies" that luridly detailed women's deepest sexual fantasies. The book has been dubbed the "innocent dawning of what later became known as the sex-positive feminist movement".<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/nov/06/my-secret-garden-author-nancy-friday-dies</ref> The work by the author Nancy Friday, was infamous for including several highly graphic female fantasies that pertained to the practice of bestiality, primarily with dogs.<br />
<br />
There is also a large underground cottage industry of zoophilic pornography, involving films being produced depicting female actresses engaging in sexual activities with dogs (including amateur films),<ref>https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/fca2/4ffdbd762f72bd5e5ec21a4f09fbc749ea70.pdf</ref> with the most famous actress to be involved in such pornography being the star of the infamous 1970s pornographic film Deep Throat, Linda Lovelace (who claims to have been coerced at gunpoint during the filming of her pornographic movies.)<br />
This is despite the the fact that the possession, distribution and production of such materials is illegal in many jurisdictions.<br />
Related to this, in an Italian study conducted in 2011 regarding the pornography viewing habits of young adults, it was discovered that 16.5 % of female pornography consumers reported that they had recently watched pornography involving sex with animals. This corresponded to roughly 10% of the female sample in total, who reported "currently" watching bestiality porn.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21997464</ref><br />
<br />
In addition, Miletski (2002) reported that 87 percent of males and 100 percent of females who reported any sexual contacts with animals reported dogs as their non-human sexual partner. Further, both Beetz (cited in Beetz 2005) and Williams and Weinberg (2003) reported dogs as the primary sexually used animals.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282844608_Bestiality_An_Overview_and_Analytic_Discussion</ref><br />
<br />
==Secret Language==<br />
[[Femoid]]s have a special language to describe intimacy with dogs. For example, intercourse with dogs many femoids call, "knotting". This refers to an Canid phallus containing a "knot" i.e the ''bulbis glandis'' at the base, which inflates when the beast is sexually aroused, causing it to become locked or "tied" to a female canid (or female human zoophile) thus ensuring the proper deposition of semen into the vagina.<br />
<br />
It has also been maintained by some dogpill theorists that women or girls who have decorated themselves with dog's paw tattoos are using this as a secret code to communicate their perversions to fellow zoophiles (similar to the "ace of spades" brand used by coalburners.)<br />
<br />
If one is perceptive, you can see that they often have this tattoo where a dog would latch on with its front paws during intercourse. You decide for yourself the validity of this hypothesis.<br />
<br />
== Dogpill Forums ==<br />
A notable forum where individuals of both sexes discuss sex with dogs (and a myriad of other animals) is [https://www.zooville.org/threads/ladies-do-you-serve-your-dog-whenever-he-wants-it.5918/ ZooVille.org]<br />
<br />
== Dogpill Gallery ==<br />
There currently exists 0 forum posts about female attraction to incels or male virgins... dogs however...<br />
<br />
<gallery widths="200px" heights="200px" perrow="7"><br />
File:Atomicdogpill.png|link=https://incels.wiki/w/images/1/12/Atomicdogpill.png<br />
File:Quoradogpill1.png<br />
File:G6VsKjv.jpg<br />
File:Quoradogpill2.jpg<br />
File:Dogpill.png<br />
File:Dies.png|Emergency room personnel are sometimes the only people to bear witness to the fact that a zoophilic act has occurred.<ref>https://gawker.com/5819464/woman-dies-of-allergic-reaction-to-the-dog-she-had-sex-with</ref><br />
File:Screenshot 2019-04-19 17-07-03.png<br />
File:Screenshot 2019-04-19 17-16-01.png<br />
</gallery><br />
{{clear}}<br />
<br />
==Origin==<br />
[[File:Dogs.png|thumb|right]]<br />
<br />
Seen by some incels as an attempt at a redditified incel community to "meme"; and as a covert attempt to delegitimise the arguments involuntary celibates have against society at large. See /[[braincels]]/.<br />
<br />
The idea of a "Dogpill" per se was apparently popularised in the incelosphere by famous hapa troll and author of the redpill comics, [[Eurasian Tiger]], who promoted the concept on sluthate.com and r/incels.<br />
<br />
It could be argued that the first dogpill theorist was the Ancient Greek historian Herodotus, who wrote at length in his famous ''Histories'' about the supposed penchant of Pharonic Egyptian women for engaging in acts of bestiality with a menagerie of animals, including dogs. The Qing dynasty era Chinese author Pu Songling wrote a book about the subject, with the English translation of the title of the book being "The Fornicating Dog". In the work, a travelling businessman is [[cuckoldry|cuckolded]] and (eventually) murdered by the family dog. After word of the wife's scandalous relationship with the animal spreads, she and the dog are sentenced to death by lingchi (slow slicing, or the infamous 'death by a thousand cuts'), but not before the couple is forced to copulate in public.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fornicating_Dog</ref> <br />
<br />
[[Otto Weininger]], in his opus ''Sex and Character'' claimed that zoophilia in women was explained by them being existentially closer to animals than men are, stating: "As a matter of fact, women are sisters of the flowers, and are in close relationship with the animals. Many of their sexual perversities and affections for animals indicate this."<br />
<br />
A Hollywood film has been produced on the subject.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Dogs_Lie_(2006_film)</ref><br />
<br />
== WAW5.5: Women Would Rather F*CK Dogs ==<br />
{{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJx8wc-tZjo&t=228s|frame|}}<br />
== Other animals ==<br />
In 2020 (recently) an internet challenge has gone viral called the ''eye tracker test.'' The test taker is hooked up to eye tracking software and then shown objectively, sexually attractive and seductive videos of the opposite sex on their computer screen. The test taker must avoid looking at the attractive models face and body. In a video called ''I Made MY GIRLFRIEND Take The EYE TRACKER TEST..'' By youtuber Tal Fishman, he did just that.<br />
<br />
His girlfriend had a surprisingly easy time overall avoiding looking at the international super male model faces in the videos, mainly focusing on the backgrounds. When the girlfriend did look at the men's faces, the girlfriend's gaze lingered over the eyes, the chin, jaw, neck and then traps, in that order. No attention was paid to head hair, the brow ridge or brow hairs, lips or nose! The only times the girlfriend looked at the men's bodies where when the men were built like 2% body fat bodybuilders, wet and oiled up about to perform on stage ''and'' in bright indoor lighting/bright outdoor sunlight. When the lighting was dark the girlfriend was able to easily avert her gaze, no matter how attractive the men's bodies. '''However, no matter how physically attractive the man, when a horse was in the frame, the horse was always more arousing, than the human male!<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WFnqe5Hisw</ref>'''<br />
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==See also==<br />
* [[Reverse dogpill]]<br />
* [[Heightpill]]<br />
* [[Dickfish]]<br />
* [[Horsepill]]<br />
* [[Beastpill]]<br />
* [[Birdpill]]<br />
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==References==<br />
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==External link==<br />
* https://www.reddit.com/r/dogpillscience/ Studies and web articles, related to the dogpill.<br />
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJx8wc-tZjo&t=228s W.A.W 5.5 Women Would Rather F*ck Dogs<br />
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[[Category:Pills]]<br />
[[Category:Hypergamy]]<br />
[[Category:Chads]]<br />
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{{Memes}}</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Dogpill&diff=47935Dogpill2020-02-14T22:40:06Z<p>Mikey: </p>
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<div>[[File:Dogpillmeme.jpg|thumb|right]]<br />
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The '''dogpill''' is a subset of the [[blackpill]] that suggests that women would prefer to have sex with dogs and other members of the family ''canidae'' than incels. <br />
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[[Women]], upon hearing this as a criticism, blame incels for racial discrimination against other species.<br />
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==Reasoning==<br />
[[File:Buster.png|thumb|right|A [[Chad]] version of a dog is nicknamed Buster.]]<br />
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There are more internet forum threads with women describing sexual attraction to their own dogs than there are threads with women describing attraction towards male virgins.<br />
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Many breeds of dogs have a much larger sex organ than an average human male, thus making the dogpill concomitant with the [[Dickpill]]. There is also a large worldwide market for replica dog dildos, with one of the major sites selling these products<ref>https://bad-dragon.com/products/rex</ref> being the 18,622th most popular site in the United States<ref>https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bad-dragon.com</ref> and 33,328th most popular site worldwide in terms of internet traffic.<br />
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Furthermore, studies have shown that women gain sexual gratification from inserting objects as large as soda cans into their vaginal orifices.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3357565/</ref> This would explain the tendency of women towards 'teacup' chihuahuas and other dogs with genitals significantly smaller than that of the average human male. Often, these animals are small enough to fit inside a woman's orifice, and due to the intense pleasure women achieve from vibration and other movement, it can be concluded that the stimulus of a small animal struggling would be superior to that of a simple similarly sized inanimate object. <br />
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A quick Google trends comparison found that there was roughly equivalent search volume for the phrase 'dog dildo' as there was for the search term 'realistic dildo'<ref>https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=dog%20dildo,Realistic%20dildo</ref> from 2004 to the present. Disturbingly, one of related queries displayed by Google for the search term 'dog dildo' was the term 'large dog breeds'. This could be seen as some evidence that the women who are purchasing these dildos are also interested in practicing 'the real thing', with an actual Canid.<br />
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Alfred Kinsey, the infamous human sexuality researcher, conducted a survey in the 1950s that examined the prevalence of bestiality. It was found that 3.6 percent of adult females sampled confessed to having engaged in such sexual acts after their adolescent period.<ref>''Sexual behavior in the human female'' pt 2: ''Animal Contacts''. Alfred C Kinsey, Pomeroy, W, Martin, C, Gebhard, P.; Institute for Sex Research.; WB Sanders Company. 1953.</ref> Given most dogs do not last beyond age 13, we can safely conclude that over 3.6 percent of women are pedophiles.<br />
This was in the more socially conservative fifties, and is thus most likely an underestimate compared to the post sexual revolution West. In any case, self-reported surveys attempting to determine the prevalence of zoophilic activities would most likely suffer from a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_desirability_bias severe bias] to under-report respondents level of involvement in such acts.<br />
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Also, this figure of 3.6 might sound low, but it is roughly equivalent to the number of adolescent males who have been diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) in the United States.<ref>https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2667712</ref> Thus, if this figure is accurate, it is almost certain that you have encountered in your lifetime a female that has had sexual intercourse with a dog.<br />
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A subsequent study of "highly intelligent women" conducted in 1974 by Dematino, M found that 7 percent of the sample admitted to having engaged in various forms of sexual activity with animals, primarily with dogs.<ref>https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783662385869</ref> The author concluded that, due to the figure being higher than in the previous study by Kinsey et al. (1953), more intelligent women may be more prone to engaging in such acts. <br />
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The figures cited above are likely higher then the amount of women that would be receptive to the idea of dating or having sex with a [[truecel]]. While most studies into the subject have found that men admit to engaging in zoophilic acts more often than women, it can be argued that men frequently perform these deeds out of desperation (because of males much higher [[libido]]). Conversely, because of women's much lower libido on average as compared to men, and their typical ease of finding a willing sexual partner, it can be argued that women perform these acts solely due to zoophilic preferences. <br />
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Women's genitals are naturally stimulated by zoophilic pornography whereas men's genitals are not. This was measured and confirmed by Meredith Chivers, PhD., an assistant professor of psychology at Queens University in Kingston. This included all images of animal coupling they were exposed to: including e.g. Bonobos.<ref>http://www.nbcnews.com/id/32374911/ns/health-sexual_health/t/unraveling-mystery-female-desire/#.W7vUat_nhhE</ref> Though, it has been argued that this may represent an evolutionary adaption for women to produce [[grool|vaginal secretions]] readily in response to sexual stimuli, in order to prevent traumatic damage from rape etc.<br />
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In 1973 a famous work was published entitled "My Secret Garden: Women’s Sexual Fantasies" that luridly detailed women's deepest sexual fantasies. The book has been dubbed the "innocent dawning of what later became known as the sex-positive feminist movement".<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/nov/06/my-secret-garden-author-nancy-friday-dies</ref> The work by the author Nancy Friday, was infamous for including several highly graphic female fantasies that pertained to the practice of bestiality, primarily with dogs.<br />
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There is also a large underground cottage industry of zoophilic pornography, involving films being produced depicting female actresses engaging in sexual activities with dogs (including amateur films),<ref>https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/fca2/4ffdbd762f72bd5e5ec21a4f09fbc749ea70.pdf</ref> with the most famous actress to be involved in such pornography being the star of the infamous 1970s pornographic film Deep Throat, Linda Lovelace (who claims to have been coerced at gunpoint during the filming of her pornographic movies.)<br />
This is despite the the fact that the possession, distribution and production of such materials is illegal in many jurisdictions.<br />
Related to this, in an Italian study conducted in 2011 regarding the pornography viewing habits of young adults, it was discovered that 16.5 % of female pornography consumers reported that they had recently watched pornography involving sex with animals. This corresponded to roughly 10% of the female sample in total, who reported "currently" watching bestiality porn.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21997464</ref><br />
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In addition, Miletski (2002) reported that 87 percent of males and 100 percent of females who reported any sexual contacts with animals reported dogs as their non-human sexual partner. Further, both Beetz (cited in Beetz 2005) and Williams and Weinberg (2003) reported dogs as the primary sexually used animals.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282844608_Bestiality_An_Overview_and_Analytic_Discussion</ref><br />
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==Secret Language==<br />
[[Femoid]]s have a special language to describe intimacy with dogs. For example, intercourse with dogs many femoids call, "knotting". This refers to an Canid phallus containing a "knot" i.e the ''bulbis glandis'' at the base, which inflates when the beast is sexually aroused, causing it to become locked or "tied" to a female canid (or female human zoophile) thus ensuring the proper deposition of semen into the vagina.<br />
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It has also been maintained by some dogpill theorists that women or girls who have decorated themselves with dog's paw tattoos are using this as a secret code to communicate their perversions to fellow zoophiles (similar to the "ace of spades" brand used by coalburners.)<br />
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If one is perceptive, you can see that they often have this tattoo where a dog would latch on with its front paws during intercourse. You decide for yourself the validity of this hypothesis.<br />
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== Dogpill Forums ==<br />
A notable forum where individuals of both sexes discuss sex with dogs (and a myriad of other animals) is [https://www.zooville.org/threads/ladies-do-you-serve-your-dog-whenever-he-wants-it.5918/ ZooVille.org]<br />
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== Dogpill Gallery ==<br />
There currently exists 0 forum posts about female attraction to incels or male virgins... dogs however...<br />
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==Origin==<br />
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Seen by some incels as an attempt at a redditified incel community to "meme"; and as a covert attempt to delegitimise the arguments involuntary celibates have against society at large. See /[[braincels]]/.<br />
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The idea of a "Dogpill" per se was apparently popularised in the incelosphere by famous hapa troll and author of the redpill comics, [[Eurasian Tiger]], who promoted the concept on sluthate.com and r/incels.<br />
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It could be argued that the first dogpill theorist was the Ancient Greek historian Herodotus, who wrote at length in his famous ''Histories'' about the supposed penchant of Pharonic Egyptian women for engaging in acts of bestiality with a menagerie of animals, including dogs. The Qing dynasty era Chinese author Pu Songling wrote a book about the subject, with the English translation of the title of the book being "The Fornicating Dog". In the work, a travelling businessman is [[cuckoldry|cuckolded]] and (eventually) murdered by the family dog. After word of the wife's scandalous relationship with the animal spreads, she and the dog are sentenced to death by lingchi (slow slicing, or the infamous 'death by a thousand cuts'), but not before the couple is forced to copulate in public.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fornicating_Dog</ref> <br />
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[[Otto Weininger]], in his opus ''Sex and Character'' claimed that zoophilia in women was explained by them being existentially closer to animals than men are, stating: "As a matter of fact, women are sisters of the flowers, and are in close relationship with the animals. Many of their sexual perversities and affections for animals indicate this."<br />
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A Hollywood film has been produced on the subject.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Dogs_Lie_(2006_film)</ref><br />
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== WAW5.5: Women Would Rather F*CK Dogs ==<br />
{{#ev:youtube|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJx8wc-tZjo&t=228s|frame|}}<br />
== Other animals ==<br />
In 2020 (recently) an internet challenge has gone viral called the ''eye tracker test.'' The test taker is hooked up to eye tracking software and then shown objectively, sexually attractive and seductive videos of the opposite sex on their computer screen. The test taker must avoid looking at the attractive models face and body. In a video called ''I Made MY GIRLFRIEND Take The EYE TRACKER TEST..'' By youtuber Tal Fishman, he did just that.<br />
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His girlfriend had a surprisingly easy time overall avoiding looking at the international super male model faces in the videos, mainly focusing on the backgrounds. When the girlfriend did look at the men's faces, the girlfriend's gaze lingered over the eyes, the chin, jaw, neck and then traps, in that order. No attention was paid to head hair, the brow ridge or brow hairs, lips or nose! The only times the girlfriend looked at the men's bodies where when the men were built like 2% body fat bodybuilders, wet and oiled up about to perform on stage ''and'' in bright indoor lighting/bright outdoor sunlight. When the lighting was dark the girlfriend was able to easily avert her gaze, no matter how attractive the men's bodies. However, no matter how physically attractive the man, when ''' a horse ''' was in the frame, the horse was always more arousing, than the human male!<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WFnqe5Hisw</ref><br />
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==See also==<br />
* [[Reverse dogpill]]<br />
* [[Heightpill]]<br />
* [[Dickfish]]<br />
* [[Horsepill]]<br />
* [[Beastpill]]<br />
* [[Birdpill]]<br />
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==References==<br />
<references /><br />
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==External link==<br />
* https://www.reddit.com/r/dogpillscience/ Studies and web articles, related to the dogpill.<br />
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJx8wc-tZjo&t=228s W.A.W 5.5 Women Would Rather F*ck Dogs<br />
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[[Category:Theories]]<br />
[[Category:Pills]]<br />
[[Category:Hypergamy]]<br />
[[Category:Chads]]<br />
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{{Memes}}</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Life_history_theory&diff=47889Life history theory2020-02-13T21:37:59Z<p>Mikey: /* r/K-selection */</p>
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<div>'''Life history''' is a collection of hypotheses that explain why animals differ in so called ''life history traits'' which include size at birth, growth and developmental schedules, age and size at maturity, number, size, and sex ratio of offspring, reproductive schedules, mortality schedules and extent of investment in the offspring. These traits are explained as a result of the specific properties of the ecologies the species evolved in.<br />
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== r/K-selection ==<br />
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r/K selection was the predecessor of the life history theory which superseded it, adding additional mechanisms explained in the sections below (tbd). At the core of r/K selection is a distinction between two kinds of ecologies which are opposed on the spectrum of ecological harshness:<br />
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# Unpredictable, but easy ecologies, e.g. tropical regions are full of competing animals, but food is readily available. Animals in such ecologies are said to be r-selected, where r is the growth rate and r-selected means maximizing growth rate. This means making as many offspring as possible and not investing much in them, hoping they will make their way through the unpredictable but easy environment, i.e. requiring little guidance on part of the parents. R-strategists have a ''fast life history'' (speed).<br />
# Predictable, but harsh ecologies, e.g. cold regions have relatively low population counts as food is hard to attain through the winter. Animals in such ecologies are said to be K-selected, where K is the carrying capacity of the environment. In harsh ecologies this capacity is low, so species produce few offspring and care for them, and maintain the population size near the maximal carrying capacity. K-selected species evolve "K-strategies" that emphasize high levels of parental care, resource acquisition, kin provisioning, and social complexity. The K-strategy requires more complex nervous systems and larger brains. K-strategists have a ''slow life history''.<br />
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== See also ==<br />
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* [[Reproductive success]]<br />
{{Redpill}}</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Matthew_effect&diff=47780Matthew effect2020-02-13T06:26:23Z<p>Mikey: </p>
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<div>The '''Matthew effect''' or '''Matthew principle''' refers to the effect that ascending in any kind of [[dominance hierarchy|hierarchy]] (whether economic, artistic etc.) tends to imply even more status as one gains motivation and access to more resources and social connections etc. forming a positive feedback loop in ascension potential. Conversely, failure often implies even more failure and demotivation (downward spiral). This can explain why inequality is a human universal as it means there naturally exist strong feedback effects causing the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer.<ref>Malcom G. 2008. ''Outliers: The Story of Success'' [[https://archive.org/details/outliersstoryofs00glad Archive]]</ref><ref name=wsj>https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122671469296530435</ref><br />
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The term was coined by sociologist Robert K. Merton in 1968<ref>Merton RK. 1968. ''The Matthew Effect in Science.'' [[http://www.garfield.library.upenn.edu/merton/matthew1.pdf FullText]] [[http://doi.org/10.1126/science.159.3810.56 Abstract]]</ref><ref>Merton RK. 1988. ''The Matthew Effect in Science, II: Cumulative advantage and the symbolism of intellectual property.'' [[http://garfield.library.upenn.edu/merton/matthewii.pdf FullText]] [[https://doi.org/10.1086/354848 Abstract]]</ref> and takes its name from the Parable of the talents or minas in the biblical Gospel of Matthew:<br />
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{{quote|For to every one who has will more be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who has not, even what he has will be taken away.|Matthew 25:29}}<br />
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[[Incel]]s may often find themselves in a downward spiral.<br />
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Anecdotally, when the biological father of a woman's first child/children is extremely [[LMS|attractive]] in comparison to herself, the woman never gets pregnant by a different man ever again. However when the biological father of her 1st child/children is very unattractive, in comparison to herself, the woman will go on to have many different baby dads, each less attractive than the last.<br />
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== References ==<br />
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== See also ==<br />
* [[Gynocentrism]]<br />
* [[Hypergamy]]<br />
* [[Apex fallacy]]<br />
* [[Dominance hierarchy]]<br />
* [[NEET]]<br />
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{{Blackpill}}<br />
{{Redpill}}</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Matthew_effect&diff=47779Matthew effect2020-02-13T06:12:16Z<p>Mikey: </p>
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<div>The '''Matthew effect''' or '''Matthew principle''' refers to the effect that ascending in any kind of [[dominance hierarchy|hierarchy]] (whether economic, artistic etc.) tends to imply even more status as one gains motivation and access to more resources and social connections etc. forming a positive feedback loop in ascension potential. Conversely, failure often implies even more failure and demotivation (downward spiral). This can explain why inequality is a human universal as it means there naturally exist strong feedback effects causing the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer.<ref>Malcom G. 2008. ''Outliers: The Story of Success'' [[https://archive.org/details/outliersstoryofs00glad Archive]]</ref><ref name=wsj>https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122671469296530435</ref><br />
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The term was coined by sociologist Robert K. Merton in 1968<ref>Merton RK. 1968. ''The Matthew Effect in Science.'' [[http://www.garfield.library.upenn.edu/merton/matthew1.pdf FullText]] [[http://doi.org/10.1126/science.159.3810.56 Abstract]]</ref><ref>Merton RK. 1988. ''The Matthew Effect in Science, II: Cumulative advantage and the symbolism of intellectual property.'' [[http://garfield.library.upenn.edu/merton/matthewii.pdf FullText]] [[https://doi.org/10.1086/354848 Abstract]]</ref> and takes its name from the Parable of the talents or minas in the biblical Gospel of Matthew:<br />
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{{quote|For to every one who has will more be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who has not, even what he has will be taken away.|Matthew 25:29}}<br />
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[[Incel]]s may often find themselves in a downward spiral.<br />
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Anecdotally, when the biological father of a woman's first child/children is extremely [[LMS|attractive]], the woman tends to not get pregnant by a different man ever again. However when the biological father of her 1st child/children is very unattractive, the woman will often go on to have many different baby dads, each less attractive than the last.<br />
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== References ==<br />
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== See also ==<br />
* [[Gynocentrism]]<br />
* [[Hypergamy]]<br />
* [[Apex fallacy]]<br />
* [[Dominance hierarchy]]<br />
* [[NEET]]<br />
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{{Blackpill}}<br />
{{Redpill}}</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Matthew_effect&diff=47778Matthew effect2020-02-13T06:08:06Z<p>Mikey: </p>
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<div>The '''Matthew effect''' or '''Matthew principle''' refers to the effect that ascending in any kind of [[dominance hierarchy|hierarchy]] (whether economic, artistic etc.) tends to imply even more status as one gains motivation and access to more resources and social connections etc. forming a positive feedback loop in ascension potential. Conversely, failure often implies even more failure and demotivation (downward spiral). This can explain why inequality is a human universal as it means there naturally exist strong feedback effects causing the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer.<ref>Malcom G. 2008. ''Outliers: The Story of Success'' [[https://archive.org/details/outliersstoryofs00glad Archive]]</ref><ref name=wsj>https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122671469296530435</ref><br />
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The term was coined by sociologist Robert K. Merton in 1968<ref>Merton RK. 1968. ''The Matthew Effect in Science.'' [[http://www.garfield.library.upenn.edu/merton/matthew1.pdf FullText]] [[http://doi.org/10.1126/science.159.3810.56 Abstract]]</ref><ref>Merton RK. 1988. ''The Matthew Effect in Science, II: Cumulative advantage and the symbolism of intellectual property.'' [[http://garfield.library.upenn.edu/merton/matthewii.pdf FullText]] [[https://doi.org/10.1086/354848 Abstract]]</ref> and takes its name from the Parable of the talents or minas in the biblical Gospel of Matthew:<br />
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{{quote|For to every one who has will more be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who has not, even what he has will be taken away.|Matthew 25:29}}<br />
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[[Incel]]s may often find themselves in a downward spiral.<br />
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Anecdotally, when the biological father of a woman's first child/children is extremely [[LMS|attractive]], the woman will never get pregnant by a different man ever again. However when the biological father of her 1st child/children is very unattractive, the woman will then go on to have many different baby dads, each less attractive than the last.<br />
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== References ==<br />
<references /><br />
== See also ==<br />
* [[Gynocentrism]]<br />
* [[Hypergamy]]<br />
* [[Apex fallacy]]<br />
* [[Dominance hierarchy]]<br />
* [[NEET]]<br />
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{{Blackpill}}<br />
{{Redpill}}</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Chadstruck&diff=47777Chadstruck2020-02-13T06:00:59Z<p>Mikey: </p>
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'''Chadstruck''', also known by the euphemism "lovestruck", are the intense [[tingles]] a woman feels when she sees a [[Chad]]. The phenomenon can be explained by [[sexy sons hypothesis]] and/or by women's tendency to [[Female subordination and submission|submit]] to the most dominant male available.<br />
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Symptoms include being besotted, infatuated and behaving irrationally. Sometimes there are long-term negative side-effects to becoming chadstruck such as a loss of empathy towards betas and [[omega]]s, particularly after being rejected by chad.<ref>https://www.bustle.com/articles/83353-why-rejection-from-an-attractive-man-makes-women-mean-to-less-attractive-men-because-hell-hath</ref><ref>https://www.medicaldaily.com/single-women-more-vindictive-toward-ugly-suitors-after-being-turned-down-attractive-333102</ref><br />
The ascended incel should never, NEVER take a woman to the movie theater on a date, especially a superhero movie. The girl will just get Chad-struck by the handsome hero saving the world in an hour and 30 minutes.<br />
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Being chadstruck can also refer to when a young woman births [[Chad]]s children and never reproduces with a different male later in life.<br />
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==Red pill comics==<br />
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==See Also==<br />
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*[[Chad]]<br />
*[[Sexy son hypothesis]]<br />
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==References==<br />
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{{s}}</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Mismatchcel&diff=47772Mismatchcel2020-02-13T01:22:00Z<p>Mikey: /* Potential mismatches */</p>
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<div>[[File:Baby_sea_turtles_make_their_way_toward_the_water.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Hatchling sea turtles must find the ocean based on light from the horizon, but light pollution makes them lose orientation and starve.]]<br />
A '''mismatchcel''' is a person who's [[inceldom]] can primarily be attributed to an evolutionary mismatch. Evolutionary mismatch simply means that the current environment mismatches the one in which humans evolved in, which may cause some malfunction in human behavior, including sexual behavior, i.e. reduced [[reproductive success]] (fitness).<br />
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== Potential mismatches ==<br />
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* '''Arranged marriages vs free mate choice''': Historically, arranged marriages were often the norm, so today's dating world may mismatch innate expectations that we may evolved to have for our parents to be involved in partner choices. In a large sample of hunter-gatherer societies, 70% primarily practiced arrange marriage,<ref name="apostl">https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1474704919887706</ref> and also in medieval Europe arranged marriages were the norm.<ref>http://www.dfwx.com/medieval_cult.html</ref><br />
* '''Death of male coalitions''': Cross-cultural evidence points to men forming male coalitions, organizing in [[dominance hierarchies|competence hierarchies]]<ref name="cooking">https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Women_were_historically_predominantly_involved_in_cooking_and_they_never_dominated_men</ref> in order to extract resources<ref>https://carlsonschool.umn.edu/sites/carlsonschool.umn.edu/files/2019-04/baumeister_et_al_2017_j_econ_psych_competing_for_love-_applying_sexual_economics_theory_to_mating_contests_1.pdf</ref> and monopolize the women of other men.<ref name="apostl"></ref> Hence the entire concept of women entering these male coalitions and working side-by-side with men, as well as [[romance|romantic]] relationships in terms of equal romantic investment, are evolutionary novel, and possibly corrupt epistatic pathways in the development of male behavior.<ref>https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-32984-6_7</ref> Women have rarely ever been individuals themselves, but merely [[sex drive#Female_passivity|passive]] motivators for male intrasexual competition.<ref name="cooking"></ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnEFt20qe0o</ref><br />
* '''Affirmative action for women''': Women have never occupied higher status than men,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Women_were_historically_predominantly_involved_in_cooking_and_they_never_dominated_men</ref> so men getting [[mog]]ged by women left and right may be a source of great confusion and [[shy]]ness in men. In women, combined with their [[hypergamy]] it also causes a mismatch as they naturally expect to find men more dominant than themselves, and rather [[femcel|staying singles]] when failing to find a partner who matches their expectations (see [[hypergamy]]).<br />
* '''Atheism''': Most human societies have also been highly religious,<ref>https://www.gwern.net/docs/psychology/1991-brown-humanuniversals.pdf</ref> whereas modern civilizations are highly atheistic. Atheism tends to imply lower birth rates.<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10680-015-9371-z</ref><br />
* '''Behavioral sink''': Other mismatches may be overpopulation, an aging population or even the rise of [[mutation]]s and disruption of social epistasis (see [[behavioral sink]]).<br />
* '''No responsibility''': Historically, marriage directly concerned important questions about inheritance of land and wealth. Today, there is a growing disenfranchised population that has virtually nothing, are in debt and merely rent properties from landlords. This is exaggerated by economic stagnation. Millennials have only a fraction of the worth babyboomers had at the same age.<ref>https://archive.fo/wip/z8CaW</ref> As a result, traditions and adaptations concerning heritage and responsibility lose their meanings.<br />
* '''Environmentalism & pessimism''': Historically, it was rarely ever a question to not have children. Usually, children were needed to maintain land, power and wealthy of the family. Associating something bad with reproduction is highly evolutionary novel.<br />
* '''Late marriage and no enforced monogamy''': The age of marriage is very late in many Western countries because of [[feminism]] and economic stagnation. This means nobody enforces monogamy until the late 20s or early 30s, and the result is a more feral dating landscape that [[life history|r-strategists]] heavily exploit and which does not cater to people who are rather interested in long-term [[relationship]]s.<br />
* '''Rise of extroverts''': As of the year 2020, the majority of couples meet online, followed by in a bar or at a restaurant, instead of through friends, family, school, work etc. Essentially, dooming a large number of men to [[mentalcel]]dom due to lack of extroversion, a personality trait that is 60% genetic.<ref>https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-human-beast/201701/do-extraverts-have-more-children</ref><br />
<br />
== Mismatch vs alienation ==<br />
<br />
The notion of alientation is a very similar concept that has often be raised in the past, and it is frowned upon because Marxists use it to justify their utopias which have so far never worked, and also creates a negativity about work and modernity which is demotivating for some.<br />
<br />
== References ==<br />
<references /><br />
<br />
== See also ==<br />
* [[Mutation]]<br />
* [[Behavioral sink]]<br />
* [[Causes of inceldom]]<br />
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{{cel_see_also}}<br />
{{Blackpill}}<br />
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A '''mismatchcel''' is a person who's [[inceldom]] can primarily be attributed to an evolutionary mismatch. Evolutionary mismatch simply means that the current environment mismatches the one in which humans evolved in, which may cause some malfunction in human behavior, including sexual behavior, i.e. reduced [[reproductive success]] (fitness).<br />
<br />
== Potential mismatches ==<br />
<br />
* '''Arranged marriages vs free mate choice''': Historically, arranged marriages were often the norm, so today's dating world may mismatch innate expectations that we may evolved to have for our parents to be involved in partner choices. In a large sample of hunter-gatherer societies, 70% primarily practiced arrange marriage,<ref name="apostl">https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1474704919887706</ref> and also in medieval Europe arranged marriages were the norm.<ref>http://www.dfwx.com/medieval_cult.html</ref><br />
* '''Death of male coalitions''': Cross-cultural evidence points to men forming male coalitions, organizing in [[dominance hierarchies|competence hierarchies]]<ref name="cooking">https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Women_were_historically_predominantly_involved_in_cooking_and_they_never_dominated_men</ref> in order to extract resources<ref>https://carlsonschool.umn.edu/sites/carlsonschool.umn.edu/files/2019-04/baumeister_et_al_2017_j_econ_psych_competing_for_love-_applying_sexual_economics_theory_to_mating_contests_1.pdf</ref> and monopolize the women of other men.<ref name="apostl"></ref> Hence the entire concept of women entering these male coalitions and working side-by-side with men, as well as [[romance|romantic]] relationships in terms of equal romantic investment, are evolutionary novel, and possibly corrupt epistatic pathways in the development of male behavior.<ref>https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-32984-6_7</ref> Women have rarely ever been individuals themselves, but merely [[sex drive#Female_passivity|passive]] motivators for male intrasexual competition.<ref name="cooking"></ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnEFt20qe0o</ref><br />
* '''Affirmative action for women''': Women have never occupied higher status than men,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Women_were_historically_predominantly_involved_in_cooking_and_they_never_dominated_men</ref> so men getting [[mog]]ged by women left and right may be a source of great confusion and [[shy]]ness in men. In women, combined with their [[hypergamy]] it also causes a mismatch as they naturally expect to find men more dominant than themselves, and rather [[femcel|staying singles]] when failing to find a partner who matches their expectations (see [[hypergamy]]).<br />
* '''Atheism''': Most human societies have also been highly religious,<ref>https://www.gwern.net/docs/psychology/1991-brown-humanuniversals.pdf</ref> whereas modern civilizations are highly atheistic. Atheism tends to imply lower birth rates.<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10680-015-9371-z</ref><br />
* '''Behavioral sink''': Other mismatches may be overpopulation, an aging population or even the rise of [[mutation]]s and disruption of social epistasis (see [[behavioral sink]]).<br />
* '''No responsibility''': Historically, marriage directly concerned important questions about inheritance of land and wealth. Today, there is a growing disenfranchised population that has virtually nothing, are in debt and merely rent properties from landlords. This is exaggerated by economic stagnation. Millennials have only a fraction of the worth babyboomers had at the same age.<ref>https://archive.fo/wip/z8CaW</ref> As a result, traditions and adaptations concerning heritage and responsibility lose their meanings.<br />
* '''Environmentalism & pessimism''': Historically, it was rarely ever a question to not have children. Usually, children were needed to maintain land, power and wealthy of the family. Associating something bad with reproduction is highly evolutionary novel.<br />
* '''Late marriage and no enforced monogamy''': The age of marriage is very late in many Western countries because of [[feminism]] and economic stagnation. This means nobody enforces monogamy until the late 20s or early 30s, and the result is a more feral dating landscape that [[life history|r-strategists]] heavily exploit and which does not cater to people who are rather interested in long-term [[relationship]]s.<br />
* '''Rise of extroverts''' As of the year 2020, the majority of couples meet online, followed by in a bar or at a restaurant, instead of through friends, family, school, work etc. Essentially, dooming a large number of men to [[mentalcel]]dom due to lack of extroversion, a personality trait that is 60% genetic.<ref>https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-human-beast/201701/do-extraverts-have-more-children</ref><br />
<br />
== Mismatch vs alienation ==<br />
<br />
The notion of alientation is a very similar concept that has often be raised in the past, and it is frowned upon because Marxists use it to justify their utopias which have so far never worked, and also creates a negativity about work and modernity which is demotivating for some.<br />
<br />
== References ==<br />
<references /><br />
<br />
== See also ==<br />
* [[Mutation]]<br />
* [[Behavioral sink]]<br />
* [[Causes of inceldom]]<br />
<br />
{{cel_see_also}}<br />
{{Blackpill}}<br />
{{Redpill}}</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Mismatchcel&diff=47769Mismatchcel2020-02-13T01:18:09Z<p>Mikey: /* Potential mismatches */</p>
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A '''mismatchcel''' is a person who's [[inceldom]] can primarily be attributed to an evolutionary mismatch. Evolutionary mismatch simply means that the current environment mismatches the one in which humans evolved in, which may cause some malfunction in human behavior, including sexual behavior, i.e. reduced [[reproductive success]] (fitness).<br />
<br />
== Potential mismatches ==<br />
<br />
* '''Arranged marriages vs free mate choice''': Historically, arranged marriages were often the norm, so today's dating world may mismatch innate expectations that we may evolved to have for our parents to be involved in partner choices. In a large sample of hunter-gatherer societies, 70% primarily practiced arrange marriage,<ref name="apostl">https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1474704919887706</ref> and also in medieval Europe arranged marriages were the norm.<ref>http://www.dfwx.com/medieval_cult.html</ref><br />
* '''Death of male coalitions''': Cross-cultural evidence points to men forming male coalitions, organizing in [[dominance hierarchies|competence hierarchies]]<ref name="cooking">https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Women_were_historically_predominantly_involved_in_cooking_and_they_never_dominated_men</ref> in order to extract resources<ref>https://carlsonschool.umn.edu/sites/carlsonschool.umn.edu/files/2019-04/baumeister_et_al_2017_j_econ_psych_competing_for_love-_applying_sexual_economics_theory_to_mating_contests_1.pdf</ref> and monopolize the women of other men.<ref name="apostl"></ref> Hence the entire concept of women entering these male coalitions and working side-by-side with men, as well as [[romance|romantic]] relationships in terms of equal romantic investment, are evolutionary novel, and possibly corrupt epistatic pathways in the development of male behavior.<ref>https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-32984-6_7</ref> Women have rarely ever been individuals themselves, but merely [[sex drive#Female_passivity|passive]] motivators for male intrasexual competition.<ref name="cooking"></ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnEFt20qe0o</ref><br />
* '''Affirmative action for women''': Women have never occupied higher status than men,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Women_were_historically_predominantly_involved_in_cooking_and_they_never_dominated_men</ref> so men getting [[mog]]ged by women left and right may be a source of great confusion and [[shy]]ness in men. In women, combined with their [[hypergamy]] it also causes a mismatch as they naturally expect to find men more dominant than themselves, and rather [[femcel|staying singles]] when failing to find a partner who matches their expectations (see [[hypergamy]]).<br />
* '''Atheism''': Most human societies have also been highly religious,<ref>https://www.gwern.net/docs/psychology/1991-brown-humanuniversals.pdf</ref> whereas modern civilizations are highly atheistic. Atheism tends to imply lower birth rates.<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10680-015-9371-z</ref><br />
* '''Behavioral sink''': Other mismatches may be overpopulation, an aging population or even the rise of [[mutation]]s and disruption of social epistasis (see [[behavioral sink]]).<br />
* '''No responsibility''': Historically, marriage directly concerned important questions about inheritance of land and wealth. Today, there is a growing disenfranchised population that has virtually nothing, are in debt and merely rent properties from landlords. This is exaggerated by economic stagnation. Millennials have only a fraction of the worth babyboomers had at the same age.<ref>https://archive.fo/wip/z8CaW</ref> As a result, traditions and adaptations concerning heritage and responsibility lose their meanings.<br />
* '''Environmentalism & pessimism''': Historically, it was rarely ever a question to not have children. Usually, children were needed to maintain land, power and wealthy of the family. Associating something bad with reproduction is highly evolutionary novel.<br />
* '''Late marriage and no enforced monogamy''': The age of marriage is very late in many Western countries because of [[feminism]] and economic stagnation. This means nobody enforces monogamy until the late 20s or early 30s, and the result is a more feral dating landscape that [[life history|r-strategists]] heavily exploit and which does not cater to people who are rather interested in long-term [[relationship]]s.<br />
* ''''Rise of extroverts''' As of the year 2020, the majority of couples meet online, followed by in a bar or at a restaurant, instead of through friends, family, school, work etc. Essentially, dooming a large number of men to [[mentalcel]]dom due to lack of extroversion, a personality trait that is 60% genetic.<ref>https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-human-beast/201701/do-extraverts-have-more-children</ref><br />
<br />
== Mismatch vs alienation ==<br />
<br />
The notion of alientation is a very similar concept that has often be raised in the past, and it is frowned upon because Marxists use it to justify their utopias which have so far never worked, and also creates a negativity about work and modernity which is demotivating for some.<br />
<br />
== References ==<br />
<references /><br />
<br />
== See also ==<br />
* [[Mutation]]<br />
* [[Behavioral sink]]<br />
* [[Causes of inceldom]]<br />
<br />
{{cel_see_also}}<br />
{{Blackpill}}<br />
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A Pretty Boy is an "8" on the [[Decile|Decile Chart]], objectively handsome. Pretty Boys lack the warrior skull shape, excessive [[Testosterone| testosterone levels]] and excessive human growth hormone levels required to be [[Chad]] or [[Gigachad]]. The term is a near-synonym of the word "[[Chadlite]]", although the pretty boy can be also be seen as a stand alone variation of [[Chadlite]].<br />
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==Characteristics==<br />
A Pretty Boy is a male whom possesses the angel skull of a female, his sex hormones appear to be in balance. His face looks beautiful while at the same time masculine. He is usually tall, slender with almost no fat and little to no muscle, and no body or facial hair. Male model, [[Francisco Lachowski|Francisco Lachowsk]]<nowiki/> is the archetypal pretty boy.<br />
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== Causes ==<br />
A study on parental facial masculinity and femininity has shown masculinity of the father's face is extremely heritable for both sons and daughters, in that low masculinity faced fathers have both low masculinity faced sons and daughters, also hi masculinity faced fathers have both hi masculinity faced sons and daughters.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4205959/</ref> <br />
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Facial masculinity and facial femininity are two seperate scales. Meaning low facial masculinity does not automatically mean hi facial femininity. A person's face can be low in both facial masculinity as well as facial femininity. The facial masculinity of moms have no affect on the facial masculinity of offspring. masculinity is correlated with [[beauty]] but to a much lesser extent than femininity is correlated with [[beauty]]. Meaning that a guy with a hyper masculine face could still be considered ugly or unattractive. <br />
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Pretty boys are indeed primarily caused by [[betabux|non dominant and or non aggressive looking men]] reproducing. The sons prettiness is exacerbated if the mom has a face hi in [[Golden Ratio|femininity]] (highly correlated with [[beauty]], as well as excessive [[estrogen levels]]). Some pretty boy exacerbating factors are environmental pollutants like synthetic estrogens found in plastic softeners, fraternal birth order, unnatural diet, the mother having excessively high [[estrogen levels]] while pregnant, mutational load (inbreeding), natural genetics, [[autism]] or any combinations of the above. Informal [[physiognomy]] experiments done by the Incel wiki team, suggest pretty boy/male model looking guys as well as [[Stacy|pretty/model looking girls]] have been assortatively mating (beautiful people mating with other beautiful people) and thus very likely do have a higher [[mutation|mutational load]], which is associated with [[inbreeding depression|a higher rate of homo/bisexuality]]. <br />
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Indeed, an informal study again done by the Incel wiki team showed only 11 out of 50 top male models of all time [[reproductive success|have children]] (normally rich, successful males are near guaranteed to have children), suggesting that even though on average handsome men are less likely to be gay<ref>https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/200805/all-stereotypes-are-true-exceptv-all-extremely-handsome</ref>. In the closet homo/bisexuality appears to be over represented among pretty boys as well as professional male models.<br />
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Another exacerbating factor in the creation of pretty boys is a constant depressed mood, producing higher levels of cortisol and the subsequent lowering of testosterone that results from high cortisol levels, leading to a higher Cortisol/T ratio, which results in a incomplete level of masculinization of the face and body during puberty. This is why sadboys, and emo guys are always feminine/androgynous looking. For example, there are no cases of emo bodybuilders, because lifting weights elevates one's mood, raises self esteem, as well as [[testosterone]] and has anti-depressant effects.<ref>https://www.bustle.com/p/lifting-weights-can-improve-mood-a-new-study-shows-heres-how-to-do-it-safely-9327898</ref><br />
Pretty boys may also have a genetic pre-disposition toward depression, as well as substance abuse. These traits are usually passed on from mother to son, since these traits significantly lower male fertility but not female.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Mental_disorders_significantly_reduce_male_fertility.2C_substantially_more_than_they_do_for_women</ref><br />
The results of the parental facial masculinity and femininity study show that since masculine facial features are only inherited from paternal DNA, a man cannot reproduce a massively more masculine faced son from mating with a masculine faced woman. A man's facial masculinity thus comes from secondary, indirect factors such as [[regression toward the mean]], recessive genes, [[genetic mutations]], [[inbreeding depression]], [[outbreeding depression]], [[atavisms]] and any other currently unknown factors as well. Essentially through the primary, direct factor of male choice, [[sexual selection]]. The best men can do is reliably reproduce pretty boys/[[chadlite]]s and [[Stacy|Stacys]], as well as [[Gigastacy]]s. On the other hand again, because masculine facial features are only inherited from paternal DNA, women can select men that have both masculine and or beautiful faces. Thus under female mate choice, women can reliably reproduce any form of Chads(lite,gigga,pretty) as well as any form of Stacys(lite,gigga).<br />
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== Behavior ==<br />
Pretty Boys tend to have an excessive interest in "[[Beauty|The Arts]]" this includes, but is not limited to, music (instrumental and vocal), dance, drama, folk art, creative writing, architecture, painting, sculpture, photography, graphic design, industrial design, costume and fashion design, motion pictures, television, radio, film, and video. Their excessive interest is thought to be because of both socialization and hormonal profile.<br />
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Pretty Boys have a protruded maxilla. A protruded maxilla increases the volume of the resonance chamber, (the mouth.) This leads to richer vocalization, so Pretty Boys just look like singers, and therefore are encouraged to become them.<br />
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It is thought that exposure to hi estrogen, feminizes their subconscious behavior, and their singing voice, making their adult singing voice beautiful instead of sexy.<br />
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Justin Bieber is an example of a Pretty Boy whom has a protruded maxilla, whom also has a beautiful singing voice.<br />
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== Male Social Hierarchies ==<br />
Despite the vast majority of women fawning over him, a Pretty Boy can range from near the top of a [[Dominance hierarchy|male social hierarchy]], to absolute rock bottom, depending on the Pretty Boy's degree of feminization. Pretty Boys are "8's" on the [[Decile|Decile Scale]] but generally are treated as if they are "5"s by other males. Since the vast majority of bluepilled, and even some redpilled men have absolutely no clue just how hi a Pretty Boy's [[Sexual market value|S.M.V]]. is, most men are completely blindsided when their girlfriends and wives, are cheating on them with a Pretty Boy. Generally Pretty Boys are like chameleons in Male Social Hierarchies, they tend to blend in among men, but stand out to women. If a woman is cheating on her partner, its most likely with a Pretty Boy. <br />
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When Justin Bieber first became famous, men thru him under the bus, poured gasoline over it, and set the bus on fire, all while taking selfies on a flip phone. <br />
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When Robert Pattinson starred in Twighlight and girls went crazy over him, guys were in an outrage like angry Feminists, but when action hero [[Gigachad]] face duo Brad Pitt, and Tom Cruise starred in Interview with the Vampire, and girls went crazy over them, guys didn't say a word.<br />
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Hyper feminized Pretty Boys are called [[Cutecel|Cutecels]].<br />
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== Mating strategy ==<br />
Some Blackpill theorists suggest Pretty boys are "alpha-beta males" in that they spread their genes thru a short term mating strategy like [[Chad]] does but reproduce a large number of [[Stacy|sexy daughters]] instead of [[sexy sons]].<br />
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== Empirical study ==<br />
The earliest looks studies done in 1997, concluded that feminine faced males were more attractive than masculine faced males.<ref>https://www.independent.co.uk/news/pretty-boys-outscore-men-with-a-strong-jaw-1174300.html</ref> However [[Scientific Blackpill|numerous studies]] done since then have shown hyper masculinity is far more attractive and far more correlated with sexual success.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill</ref> <br />
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The original looks studies were officially debunked about 10 years after the original studies were published, the new studies basically state that women are unattracted to males with only feminine traits and no masculine, but are fine with men looking feminine/androgynous as long as said men also have at least some hyper masculine features.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/44642253_Are_Attractive_Men's_Faces_Masculine_or_Feminine_The_Importance_of_Controlling_Confounds_in_Face_Stimuli</ref><br />
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the original looks studies from 1997 were extremely flawed due to the researchers confusing femininity for [[beauty]]. Beauty is a stand alone trait, that has overlap with femininity. Beauty is attractive in both sexes. Some facial features such as full lips are inherently beautiful and are thus attractive on both men and women. Any facial morph were the more "masculine" face has thinner lips, is going to be rated as less attractive. When the feminine/beautiful traits are left alone but the masculine traits exaggerated, the face is more attractive. [[autism|Autists]] have an extremely hard time distinguishing femininity from beauty due to being bad with faces (Prosopagnosia) (face-blindness).<br />
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In short women couldn't care less if a dude looks like a chick as long as the guy has some super masculine features, such as strong jaw, chin, hunter eyes, very large full eyebrows, etc. Still when given the choice between a pretty boy and a [[gigachad|manly man]] women tend to choose the [[gigachad|manly man.]] Romance novels often use long haired, aesthetic pretty boys with added rippling muscles as cover models to appeal to as many different women's preference as possible.<br />
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Previous studies (done as early as 1997) on sexual dimorphism showed feminine preferences in female faces and mixed findings in male faces. A 2014 study on preferences for sexual dimorphism on attractiveness levels in male faces found both male and female participants preferred masculine faces to androgynous faces in high attractiveness, but mixed results in low attractiveness.<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886914007132</ref><br />
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Despite mixed results on facial androgyny. Empirical study has shown behavioral androgyny to be linearly correlated with more opposite sex partners. <br />
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There is considerable evidence that human sexual orientation is genetically influenced, so it is not known how homosexuality, which tends to lower [[reproductive success]], is maintained in the population at a relatively high frequency. One hypothesis proposes that while genes predisposing to homosexuality reduce homosexuals' reproductive success, they may confer some advantage in heterosexuals who carry them. However, it is not clear what such an advantage may be. <br />
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A study done in 2008 on Genetic factors predisposing to homosexuality increasing mating success in heterosexuals, shows that psychologically masculine females and psychologically feminine men are (a) more likely to be gay but (b), when straight, have many more opposite-sex partners. With statistical modelling of the twin data, the study shows that both these relationships are partly due to pleiotropic genetic influences common to each trait. They also find a trend for heterosexuals with a non-heterosexual twin to have more opposite-sex partners than do heterosexual twin pairs. Taken together, these results suggest that genes predisposing to homosexuality confer a mating advantage in heterosexuals,<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513808000688</ref> which helps explain the evolution and maintenance of homosexuality in the population. This study doubles as evidence for [[Determinism|genetic determinism]].<br />
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In a study done by the Department of Psychology, University of Göteborg, Sweden. Photographs of physically attractive men and women were presented as depicting homosexuals and heterosexuals to subjects on the University of California at Berkeley campus who were generally judged to be nonhomophobic opposite-sexed students. Analysis showed that the 62 women rated 3 men as significantly more physically attractive when they believed the men were homosexual than when they believed the men were heterosexual. The 65 men did not rate photographs of 3 women as more physically attractive when they believed the women were lesbian compared to when they believed the women were heterosexual. The results illustrate an effect of the "gay-pretty-boy stereotype," namely, that women judged to be nonhomophobic perceived homosexual men as more physically attractive than comparable heterosexual men.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8058859</ref><br />
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Studies done on hand attractiveness show women prefer men to have androgynous looking hands, specifically large palms, and very long, thin, slender fingers,"aristocratic" looking fingers. Women also want these androgynous hands to be extremely strong! As hand grip strength is positively correlated with [[reproductive success]]!<ref>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/ajhb.22703</ref><ref>https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2018.00439/full?utm_source=F-NTF&utm_medium=EMLX&utm_campaign=PRD_FEOPS_20170000_ARTICLE</ref><ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/264510888_Hand_attractiveness_-_Its_determinants_and_associations_with_facial_attractiveness</ref><ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1068/p6960</ref><br />
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=== Emotions ===<br />
The results from a survey of over 1,500 people subscribed to ELITESINGLES magazine shows 81% of women with partners whom took the survey stated that they would like their partner to show more emotion. despite women overwhelmingly establishing that they prefer a man who is open about his emotions, 16% of men (around 1 in 6) wrongly believe that women find emotional men less attractive.<ref>https://www.elitesingles.com/mag/relationship-advice/emotional-men</ref><br />
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A human being is capable of expressing over 400 different feelings and emotions <ref>https://liveboldandbloom.com/04/self-improvement/ultimate-list-emotions</ref> The women are not saying they want their partner to verbally express their emotions more, like "I am sad." They are saying they want their partner to be more non verbally expressive of their emotions in general, in a showy way, such as a professional actor, singer, or motivational speaker would. When they're partner is angry, they want the man to yell and fly into a rage, or when the partner is happy, express this thru nonverbal cues such as winks, smiles, dancing etc. Basically the women want their partners to be more dramatic and entertaining.<br />
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Women want men to be able to seamlessly transition from [[Stoicism|stoic]] and [[cool]] to cocky, amazed, amuzed, or any one of the hundreds of emotions a human is capable of, at all the appropriate moments, at a moments notice, something that [[Autism|autists]] are incapable of doing. Which is another reason women have an burning hatred for [[Autism|autists]].<br />
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=== Scents and flowers ===<br />
A study done on the effects of flowers on mating attractiveness and behavior, showed that 18–25-year-old women (N = 600) walking alone in a shopping mall, when approached by an physically attractive 20-year-old male-confederate soliciting them for their phone number. Agreed more favorably to the confederate's [[courtship]] solicitation when solicited in the area of the flower shop than compared to a cake shop, or a women's shoes shop. Positive mood induced by exposure to flowers was used to explain these results.<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224545.2012.683463</ref> Also in two more experiments, women's perception of male attractiveness and women's potential mating behavior are positively affected by simple exposure to flowers. In Study 1 women who were exposed to flowers while they watched a video of a man perceived the man to be more attractive and sexier. They also reported being more inclined to accept a date from him. In Study 2 women who were exposed to flowers responded more favorably to an explicit solicitation from a male confederate in a subsequent interaction. The results show that the simple exposure to flowers had a significant effect on women's perception of mating attractiveness and behavior.<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224545.2012.683463</ref><br />
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These results suggest the typical unnattractive if ugly, romantic if [[Chad]] display of giving a woman flowers leads to sexual opportunities. The results also suggest physically attractive men wearing flower scented perfume, would be seen as even more sexually attractive.<br />
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== Rise of androgyny ==<br />
Androgyny has been gaining more prominence and notice in popular culture since the early 21st century, concurrent with the rise of [[feminism]] and [[momad syndrome|matriarchal society]]. The rise of the metrosexual man in the first decade of the 2000s has been described as a related phenomenon associated with this trend. The androgynous trends in fashion hit the public mainstream in the 2000s (decade) that featured men sporting different hair styles: longer hair, hairdyes, hair highlights. Men in catalogues started wearing jewellery, make up, visual kei, designer stubble. These styles have become a significant mainstream trend of the 21st century, both in the western world and in Asia.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgyny#Contemporary_trends</ref> The androgynous K-pop culture has now official infected the western world thru the cellphone app Tik Tok in the form of E-boys, whom are the male equivalents to Instagram models.<br />
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For decades the Manosphere has been afraid that women's selection for [[gigachad|hyper-masculine men]] would lead to [[fisherian runaway|extinction]] thru nuclear war, or some other form of violent [[behavioral sink|collapse of civilization]]. <br />
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Reality is that men are becoming more androgynous (highly masculine in some ways and highly feminine in others), and society is not collapsing but slowly grinding to a halt, and will eventually come to a standstill as more men stop working jobs that benefit, innovate or bring value to society in some way and instead focus on [[Lay down and rot|LDR]]ing, [[NEET]]ing, or spending all their time [[looksmaxxing]]. The inevitable and eventual result is nearly every male in western society spending every ounce of their free time [[looksmaxxing]] in an effort too [[reproductive success|pass on their genes]]. We know this because western society is becoming an exact mirror image of society within the [[beauty|Wodaabe African tribe]], the most matriarchal society on the planet.<br />
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== Wodaabe tribe male ==<br />
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==References==<br />
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==See Also==<br />
*[[Cutecel]]<br />
[[Category:Theories]]<br />
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A Pretty Boy is an "8" on the [[Decile|Decile Chart]], objectively handsome. Pretty Boys lack the warrior skull shape, excessive [[Testosterone| testosterone levels]] and excessive human growth hormone levels required to be [[Chad]] or [[Gigachad]]. The term is a near-synonym of the word "[[Chadlite]]", although the pretty boy can be also be seen as a stand alone variation of [[Chadlite]].<br />
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==Characteristics==<br />
A Pretty Boy is a male whom possesses the angel skull of a female, his sex hormones appear to be in balance. His face looks beautiful while at the same time masculine. He is usually tall, slender with almost no fat and little to no muscle, and no body or facial hair. Male model, [[Francisco Lachowski|Francisco Lachowsk]]<nowiki/> is the archetypal pretty boy.<br />
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== Causes ==<br />
A study on parental facial masculinity and femininity has shown masculinity of the father's face is extremely heritable for both sons and daughters, in that low masculinity faced fathers have both low masculinity faced sons and daughters, also hi masculinity faced fathers have both hi masculinity faced sons and daughters.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4205959/</ref> <br />
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Facial masculinity and facial femininity are two seperate scales. Meaning low facial masculinity does not automatically mean hi facial femininity. A person's face can be low in both facial masculinity as well as facial femininity. The facial masculinity of moms have no affect on the facial masculinity of offspring. masculinity is correlated with [[beauty]] but to a much lesser extent than femininity is correlated with [[beauty]]. Meaning that a guy with a hyper masculine face could still be considered ugly or unattractive. <br />
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Pretty boys are indeed primarily caused by [[betabux|non dominant and or non aggressive looking men]] reproducing. The sons prettiness is exacerbated if the mom has a face hi in [[Golden Ratio|femininity]] (highly correlated with [[beauty]], as well as excessive [[estrogen levels]]). Some pretty boy exacerbating factors are environmental pollutants like synthetic estrogens found in plastic softeners, fraternal birth order, unnatural diet, the mother having excessively high [[estrogen levels]] while pregnant, mutational load (inbreeding), natural genetics, [[autism]] or any combinations of the above. Informal [[physiognomy]] experiments done by the Incel wiki team, suggest pretty boy/male model looking guys as well as [[Stacy|pretty/model looking girls]] have been assortatively mating (beautiful people mating with other beautiful people) and thus very likely do have a higher [[mutation|mutational load]], which is associated with [[inbreeding depression|a higher rate of homo/bisexuality]]. <br />
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Indeed, an informal study again done by the Incel wiki team showed only 11 out of 50 top male models of all time [[reproductive success|have children]] (normally rich, successful males are near guaranteed to have children), suggesting that even though on average handsome men are less likely to be gay<ref>https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/200805/all-stereotypes-are-true-exceptv-all-extremely-handsome</ref>. In the closet homo/bisexuality appears to be over represented among pretty boys as well as professional male models.<br />
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Another exacerbating factor in the creation of pretty boys is a constant depressed mood, producing higher levels of cortisol and the subsequent lowering of testosterone that results from high cortisol levels, leading to a higher Cortisol/T ratio, which results in a incomplete level of masculinization of the face and body during puberty. This is why sadboys, and emo guys are always feminine/androgynous looking. For example, there are no cases of emo bodybuilders, because lifting weights elevates one's mood, raises self esteem, as well as [[testosterone]] and has anti-depressant effects.<ref>https://www.bustle.com/p/lifting-weights-can-improve-mood-a-new-study-shows-heres-how-to-do-it-safely-9327898</ref><br />
Pretty boys may also have a genetic pre-disposition toward depression, as well as substance abuse. These traits are usually passed on from mother to son, since these traits significantly lower male fertility but not female.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Mental_disorders_significantly_reduce_male_fertility.2C_substantially_more_than_they_do_for_women</ref><br />
The results of the parental facial masculinity and femininity study show that since masculine facial features are only inherited from paternal DNA, a man cannot reproduce a massively more masculine faced son from mating with a masculine faced woman. A man's facial masculinity thus comes from secondary, indirect factors such as [[regression toward the mean]], recessive genes, [[genetic mutations]], [[inbreeding depression]], [[outbreeding depression]], [[atavisms]] and any other currently unknown factors as well. Essentially through the primary, direct factor of male choice, [[sexual selection]]. The best men can do is reliably reproduce pretty boys/[[chadlite]]s and [[Stacy|Stacys]], as well as [[Gigastacy]]s. On the other hand again, because masculine facial features are only inherited from paternal DNA, women can select men that have both masculine and or beautiful faces. Thus under female mate choice, women can reliably reproduce any form of Chads(lite,gigga,pretty) as well as any form of Stacys(lite,gigga).<br />
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== Behavior ==<br />
Pretty Boys tend to have an excessive interest in "[[Beauty|The Arts]]" this includes, but is not limited to, music (instrumental and vocal), dance, drama, folk art, creative writing, architecture, painting, sculpture, photography, graphic design, industrial design, costume and fashion design, motion pictures, television, radio, film, and video. Their excessive interest is thought to be because of both socialization and hormonal profile.<br />
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Pretty Boys have a protruded maxilla. A protruded maxilla increases the volume of the resonance chamber, (the mouth.) This leads to richer vocalization, so Pretty Boys just look like singers, and therefore are encouraged to become them.<br />
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It is thought that exposure to hi estrogen, feminizes their subconscious behavior, and their singing voice, making their adult singing voice beautiful instead of sexy.<br />
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Justin Bieber is an example of a Pretty Boy whom has a protruded maxilla, whom also has a beautiful singing voice.<br />
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== Male Social Hierarchies ==<br />
Despite the vast majority of women fawning over him, a Pretty Boy can range from near the top of a [[Dominance hierarchy|male social hierarchy]], to absolute rock bottom, depending on the Pretty Boy's degree of feminization. Pretty Boys are "8's" on the [[Decile|Decile Scale]] but generally are treated as if they are "5"s by other males. Since the vast majority of bluepilled, and even some redpilled men have absolutely no clue just how hi a Pretty Boy's [[Sexual market value|S.M.V]]. is, most men are completely blindsided when their girlfriends and wives, are cheating on them with a Pretty Boy. Generally Pretty Boys are like chameleons in Male Social Hierarchies, they tend to blend in among men, but stand out to women. If a woman is cheating on her partner, its most likely with a Pretty Boy. <br />
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When Justin Bieber first became famous, men thru him under the bus, poured gasoline over it, and set the bus on fire, all while taking selfies on a flip phone. <br />
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When Robert Pattinson starred in Twighlight and girls went crazy over him, guys were in an outrage like angry Feminists, but when action hero [[Gigachad]] face duo Brad Pitt, and Tom Cruise starred in Interview with the Vampire, and girls went crazy over them, guys didn't say a word.<br />
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Hyper feminized Pretty Boys are called [[Cutecel|Cutecels]].<br />
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== Mating strategy ==<br />
Some Blackpill theorists suggest Pretty boys are "alpha-beta males" in that they spread their genes thru a short term mating strategy like [[Chad]] does but reproduce a large number of [[Stacy|sexy daughters]] instead of [[sexy sons]].<br />
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== Empirical study ==<br />
The earliest looks studies done in 1997, concluded that feminine faced males were more attractive than masculine faced males.<ref>https://www.independent.co.uk/news/pretty-boys-outscore-men-with-a-strong-jaw-1174300.html</ref> However [[Scientific Blackpill|numerous studies]] done since then have shown hyper masculinity is far more attractive and far more correlated with sexual success.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill</ref> <br />
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The original looks studies were officially debunked about 10 years after the original studies were published, the new studies basically state that women are unattracted to males with only feminine traits and no masculine, but are fine with men looking feminine/androgynous as long as said men also have at least some hyper masculine features.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/44642253_Are_Attractive_Men's_Faces_Masculine_or_Feminine_The_Importance_of_Controlling_Confounds_in_Face_Stimuli</ref><br />
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the original looks studies from 1997 were extremely flawed due to the researchers confusing femininity for [[beauty]]. Beauty is a stand alone trait, that has overlap with femininity. Beauty is attractive in both sexes. Some facial features such as full lips are inherently beautiful and are thus attractive on both men and women. Any facial morph were the more "masculine" face has thinner lips, is going to be rated as less attractive. When the feminine/beautiful traits are left alone but the masculine traits exaggerated, the face is more attractive. [[autism|Autists]] have an extremely hard time distinguishing femininity from beauty due to being bad with faces (Prosopagnosia) (face-blindness).<br />
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In short women couldn't care less if a dude looks like a chick as long as the guy has some super masculine features, such as strong jaw, chin, hunter eyes, very large full eyebrows, etc. Still when given the choice between a pretty boy and a [[gigachad|manly man]] women tend to choose the [[gigachad|manly man.]] Romance novels often use long haired, aesthetic pretty boys with added rippling muscles as cover models to appeal to as many different women's preference as possible.<br />
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Previous studies (done as early as 1997) on sexual dimorphism showed feminine preferences in female faces and mixed findings in male faces. A 2014 study on preferences for sexual dimorphism on attractiveness levels in male faces found both male and female participants preferred masculine faces to androgynous faces in high attractiveness, but mixed results in low attractiveness.<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886914007132</ref><br />
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Despite mixed results on facial androgyny, over the years. Empirical study has shown behavioral androgyny to be linearly correlated with more opposite sex partners. <br />
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There is considerable evidence that human sexual orientation is genetically influenced, so it is not known how homosexuality, which tends to lower [[reproductive success]], is maintained in the population at a relatively high frequency. One hypothesis proposes that while genes predisposing to homosexuality reduce homosexuals' reproductive success, they may confer some advantage in heterosexuals who carry them. However, it is not clear what such an advantage may be. <br />
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A study done in 2008 on Genetic factors predisposing to homosexuality increasing mating success in heterosexuals, shows that psychologically masculine females and psychologically feminine men are (a) more likely to be gay but (b), when straight, have many more opposite-sex partners. With statistical modelling of the twin data, the study shows that both these relationships are partly due to pleiotropic genetic influences common to each trait. They also find a trend for heterosexuals with a non-heterosexual twin to have more opposite-sex partners than do heterosexual twin pairs. Taken together, these results suggest that genes predisposing to homosexuality confer a mating advantage in heterosexuals,<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513808000688</ref> which helps explain the evolution and maintenance of homosexuality in the population. This study doubles as evidence for [[Determinism|genetic determinism]].<br />
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In a study done by the Department of Psychology, University of Göteborg, Sweden. Photographs of physically attractive men and women were presented as depicting homosexuals and heterosexuals to subjects on the University of California at Berkeley campus who were generally judged to be nonhomophobic opposite-sexed students. Analysis showed that the 62 women rated 3 men as significantly more physically attractive when they believed the men were homosexual than when they believed the men were heterosexual. The 65 men did not rate photographs of 3 women as more physically attractive when they believed the women were lesbian compared to when they believed the women were heterosexual. The results illustrate an effect of the "gay-pretty-boy stereotype," namely, that women judged to be nonhomophobic perceived homosexual men as more physically attractive than comparable heterosexual men.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8058859</ref><br />
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Studies done on hand attractiveness show women prefer men to have androgynous looking hands, specifically large palms, and very long, thin, slender fingers,"aristocratic" looking fingers. Women also want these androgynous hands to be extremely strong! As hand grip strength is positively correlated with [[reproductive success]]!<ref>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/ajhb.22703</ref><ref>https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2018.00439/full?utm_source=F-NTF&utm_medium=EMLX&utm_campaign=PRD_FEOPS_20170000_ARTICLE</ref><ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/264510888_Hand_attractiveness_-_Its_determinants_and_associations_with_facial_attractiveness</ref><ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1068/p6960</ref><br />
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=== Emotions ===<br />
The results from a survey of over 1,500 people subscribed to ELITESINGLES magazine shows 81% of women with partners whom took the survey stated that they would like their partner to show more emotion. despite women overwhelmingly establishing that they prefer a man who is open about his emotions, 16% of men (around 1 in 6) wrongly believe that women find emotional men less attractive.<ref>https://www.elitesingles.com/mag/relationship-advice/emotional-men</ref><br />
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A human being is capable of expressing over 400 different feelings and emotions <ref>https://liveboldandbloom.com/04/self-improvement/ultimate-list-emotions</ref> The women are not saying they want their partner to verbally express their emotions more, like "I am sad." They are saying they want their partner to be more non verbally expressive of their emotions in general, in a showy way, such as a professional actor, singer, or motivational speaker would. When they're partner is angry, they want the man to yell and fly into a rage, or when the partner is happy, express this thru nonverbal cues such as winks, smiles, dancing etc. Basically the women want their partners to be more dramatic and entertaining.<br />
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Women want men to be able to seamlessly transition from [[Stoicism|stoic]] and [[cool]] to cocky, amazed, amuzed, or any one of the hundreds of emotions a human is capable of, at all the appropriate moments, at a moments notice, something that [[Autism|autists]] are incapable of doing. Which is another reason women have an burning hatred for [[Autism|autists]].<br />
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=== Scents and flowers ===<br />
A study done on the effects of flowers on mating attractiveness and behavior, showed that 18–25-year-old women (N = 600) walking alone in a shopping mall, when approached by an physically attractive 20-year-old male-confederate soliciting them for their phone number. Agreed more favorably to the confederate's [[courtship]] solicitation when solicited in the area of the flower shop than compared to a cake shop, or a women's shoes shop. Positive mood induced by exposure to flowers was used to explain these results.<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224545.2012.683463</ref> Also in two more experiments, women's perception of male attractiveness and women's potential mating behavior are positively affected by simple exposure to flowers. In Study 1 women who were exposed to flowers while they watched a video of a man perceived the man to be more attractive and sexier. They also reported being more inclined to accept a date from him. In Study 2 women who were exposed to flowers responded more favorably to an explicit solicitation from a male confederate in a subsequent interaction. The results show that the simple exposure to flowers had a significant effect on women's perception of mating attractiveness and behavior.<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224545.2012.683463</ref><br />
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These results suggest the typical unnattractive if ugly, romantic if [[Chad]] display of giving a woman flowers leads to sexual opportunities. The results also suggest physically attractive men wearing flower scented perfume, would be seen as even more sexually attractive.<br />
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== Rise of androgyny ==<br />
Androgyny has been gaining more prominence and notice in popular culture since the early 21st century, concurrent with the rise of [[feminism]] and [[momad syndrome|matriarchal society]]. The rise of the metrosexual man in the first decade of the 2000s has been described as a related phenomenon associated with this trend. The androgynous trends in fashion hit the public mainstream in the 2000s (decade) that featured men sporting different hair styles: longer hair, hairdyes, hair highlights. Men in catalogues started wearing jewellery, make up, visual kei, designer stubble. These styles have become a significant mainstream trend of the 21st century, both in the western world and in Asia.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgyny#Contemporary_trends</ref> The androgynous K-pop culture has now official infected the western world thru the cellphone app Tik Tok in the form of E-boys, whom are the male equivalents to Instagram models.<br />
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For decades the Manosphere has been afraid that women's selection for [[gigachad|hyper-masculine men]] would lead to [[fisherian runaway|extinction]] thru nuclear war, or some other form of violent [[behavioral sink|collapse of civilization]]. <br />
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Reality is that men are becoming more androgynous (highly masculine in some ways and highly feminine in others), and society is not collapsing but slowly grinding to a halt, and will eventually come to a standstill as more men stop working jobs that benefit, innovate or bring value to society in some way and instead focus on [[Lay down and rot|LDR]]ing, [[NEET]]ing, or spending all their time [[looksmaxxing]]. The inevitable and eventual result is nearly every male in western society spending every ounce of their free time [[looksmaxxing]] in an effort too [[reproductive success|pass on their genes]]. We know this because western society is becoming an exact mirror image of society within the [[beauty|Wodaabe African tribe]], the most matriarchal society on the planet.<br />
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== Wodaabe tribe male ==<br />
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==References==<br />
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==See Also==<br />
*[[Cutecel]]<br />
[[Category:Theories]]<br />
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{{Lookism}}</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Buttocks&diff=47369Buttocks2020-02-04T13:25:48Z<p>Mikey: Undo revision 47367 by Bibipi (talk)</p>
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<div>'''Buttocks''' matter for physical attractiveness in both men and women, perhaps more so for women.<ref>https://www.gq.com/story/the-part-of-your-body-women-find-sexiest</ref><ref>https://www.drfelix.co.uk/most-attractive-body-parts/</ref><br />
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The ideal male and female buttock has good muscle definition. The ideal female buttock, in particular, has an additional layer of fat covering over the muscles making them more roundish. Black males prefer larger buttocks than white males.{{citation needed}} The skin on the buttocks must be tight and firm, and ideally there are ''slight'' creases below the buttocks, the gluteal sulci.<br />
Buttocks that shake when walking or dancing are oddly attractive. Roundishness, smoothness and shakiness are possibly ornaments that evolved by [[Fisherian runaway|runaway selection]].<br />
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'''Buttocks''' are attractive in both males and females. However, for whatever reason there was some Men's Health Magazine, marketing propaganda which in the tagline/title claimed the buttocks to be the most attractive male body part, which upon actually reading the article. Men's Health admitted this to being a lie. The survey was of 1000 people (not only women) and face was actually rated as the most attractive body part. Here is the actual quote from the propaganda. ''It's not your biceps nor is it your abs. According to a survey of 1000 people, the butt/your glutes/your hunk of junk is the body part women are most attracted to, racking up 21 per cent of the votes. OK, so the face (33 per cent) got the majority of votes – it's kind of a big deal, after all – but the main findings from this survey might change the way you hit your workout.''<ref>https://www.menshealth.com/uk/health/a758906/your-butt-is-your-most-attractive-feature-according-to-research/</ref><br />
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So a man's butt is '''NOT''' the most attractive male body part, face is. Also there are extremely few comments on YouTube from women, under videos that have to do with men's butts. Especially in comparison to videos about men's faces where the comments are about even with the amount of male comments. This relationship is true, for any YouTube video about mens body from the neck down. The only data that would suggest any kind of male buttmaxxing is [[Fashion|shaving off]] any butt hair in order to become more attractive to young, highly fertile women, during peak ovulation.<ref>https://academic.oup.com/beheco/article/21/2/419/322906/</ref><br />
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==See Also==<br />
*[[:Category:Aesthetics|List of aesthetics]]<br />
* [[Twerk]]<br />
[[Category:Aesthetics]]<br />
[[Category:Anatomy]]<br />
== References ==<br />
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==See Also==<br />
* [[:Category:Aesthetics|List of aesthetics]]<br />
* [[Twerk]]<br />
[[Category:Aesthetics]]<br />
[[Category:Anatomy]]</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Buttocks&diff=47341Buttocks2020-02-04T04:04:09Z<p>Mikey: </p>
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<div>'''Buttocks''' matter for physical attractiveness in both men and women, perhaps more so for women.<ref>https://www.gq.com/story/the-part-of-your-body-women-find-sexiest</ref><ref>https://www.drfelix.co.uk/most-attractive-body-parts/</ref><br />
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The ideal male and female buttock has good muscle definition. The ideal female buttock, in particular, has an additional layer of fat covering over the muscles making them more roundish. Black males prefer larger buttocks than white males.{{citation needed}} The skin on the buttocks must be tight and firm, and ideally there are ''slight'' creases below the buttocks, the gluteal sulci.<br />
Buttocks that shake when walking or dancing are oddly attractive. Roundishness, smoothness and shakiness are possibly ornaments that evolved by [[Fisherian runaway|runaway selection]].<br />
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'''Buttocks''' are attractive in both males and females. However, for whatever reason there was some Men's Health Magazine, marketing propaganda which in the tagline/title claimed the buttocks to be the most attractive male body part, which upon actually reading the article. Men's Health admitted this to being a lie. The survey was of 1000 people (not only women) and face was actually rated as the most attractive body part. Here is the actual quote from the propaganda. ''It's not your biceps nor is it your abs. According to a survey of 1000 people, the butt/your glutes/your hunk of junk is the body part women are most attracted to, racking up 21 per cent of the votes. OK, so the face (33 per cent) got the majority of votes – it's kind of a big deal, after all – but the main findings from this survey might change the way you hit your workout.''<ref>https://www.menshealth.com/uk/health/a758906/your-butt-is-your-most-attractive-feature-according-to-research/</ref><br />
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So a man's butt is '''NOT''' the most attractive male body part, face is. Also there are extremely few comments on YouTube from women, under videos that have to do with men's butts. Especially in comparison to videos about men's faces where the comments are about even with the amount of male comments. This relationship is true, for any YouTube video about mens body from the neck down. The only data that would suggest any kind of male buttmaxxing is [[Fashion|shaving off]] any butt hair in order to become more attractive to young, highly fertile women, during peak ovulation.<ref>https://academic.oup.com/beheco/article/21/2/419/322906/</ref><br />
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==See Also==<br />
*[[:Category:Aesthetics|List of aesthetics]]<br />
* [[Twerk]]<br />
[[Category:Aesthetics]]<br />
[[Category:Anatomy]]<br />
== References ==<br />
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==See Also==<br />
* [[:Category:Aesthetics|List of aesthetics]]<br />
* [[Twerk]]<br />
[[Category:Aesthetics]]<br />
[[Category:Anatomy]]</div>Mikeyhttps://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Game&diff=47340Game2020-02-04T04:03:33Z<p>Mikey: </p>
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<div>'''Game''' is being attractive through smooth, [[charisma|charismatic behavior]] and speaking with flow and elegance, much like dance, music or poetry.<br />
This is not to be confused with [[negging]] or [[Bullying|acting aggressively]], which are copes for people that don't have game. Just like the way a person [[Beauty|looks]], and [[Fashion|dresses]], speech and behavior can be beautiful as well.<br />
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Most lookism theorists and lookist [[blackpill|blackpillers]] think game is mostly determined by one's looks, and can hardly be improved for most incels. I.e. they believe good looking people are allowed to express themselves more than ugly people, and hence develop a more compelling demeanor.<br />
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Indeed ''all'' face to face game is a combination of physical attractiveness, vocal attractiveness, [[gait]] attractiveness, social status attractiveness, and smell attractiveness. Attractive dancing, attractive singing, attractive hobbies, attractive fashion, attractive posing, attractive posturing, as well as attractive facial, attractive vocal, and attractive body ''expressions'', are all ''icing on the cake'' so to speak. As ugly men that do attractive things are called ''creepy''. Still even [[Gigachad]] can improve on txting game, as txting attractiveness is determined by speech pattern and actual word usage.<br />
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== Autists lack game ==<br />
Individuals with mental conditions, like [[Asperger's Syndrome|Asperger's syndrome]] talk and act in a awkward manner which is for the most part not beautiful.<br />
[[Asperger's Syndrome|Autists]], in particular, have an excessively hyper-masculine communication style, with no sense of flair or aesthetic. Autists often respond in a delayed fashion and have facial expressions that mismatch with their speech content. This is often perceived as rude, blunt and direct. Autists also excessively use the personal pronouns I, you, he, she, it, me, him, her. And scarcely use the pronouns we, they, us, them. So autists come off as selfish, self centered, and lacking in empathy, contributing to their lack of likability. <br />
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This communication style makes them bearable in any area were status is determined by rank and competence, instead of likability, such as in the military, but they struggle with friendships, and maintaining useful connections and relationships. Due to [[Halo effect|halo effect]], [[beauty|beautiful people]] are often forgiven, if they have no game.<br />
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== Texting/conversation game ==<br />
Style and presentation is an essential part of game.<br />
One way of improving texting as well as conversation game is to leave out personal pronouns "I, you, he, she, it, me, him, her" and replace them with nicknames such as "bud, a person, bro, man, sweetheart". Or leave them out entirely.<br />
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For example instead of "Are ''you'' going to the grocery store today?" Use "When will the groceries be bought?" This puts focus on the groceries which is the intent of the conversation and doesn't insinuate in any way that the other person was supposed to get the groceries, which can cause conflict. An attractive speech pattern is not necessarily feminine, or neurotypical, but descriptive, narrative, and storyteller like.<br />
=== Attractive vs unattractive speech patterns ===<br />
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'''Amazing pick-up line:'''<br />
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{{Quote|"Sweetheart, just cuz a man's intimidating doesn't mean the guy's a bad person. Well, maybe, but good things come in rough packages, sometimes. Now, a sweetheart deserves someone to love and a man deserves the same. In the manosphere we tend to associate with the masculine, with strength, with power and that's all very appealing, but that's not where real love comes from.""|[[Gigachad]]}}<br />
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'''Autistic pick-up line:'''<br />
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{{Quote|"I'm a little intimidating but I'm actually a good person. Well maybe i'm not, but I do good things and I have good morals. Your the sweetheart. Your beautiful. You deserve someone to love you for you and for the person you are. You're the most perfect girl in the world, just try and love yourself. You are beautiful. You deserve to have the love of your life in your world."|[[Incel]]}}<br />
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'''Autistic advertising:'''<br />
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My personal profile can be found here.<br />
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What Is Misandry<br />
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* Notice that the speech pattern uses an excessive amount of first person I, me, it pronouns, and the person prefers to simply list facts. There is no rhythm or flow. This is great for writing science articles, an evolutionary novel activity, that autists excel at, but terrible for communicating with other people, and being likeable.<br />
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* Notice how when the personal tone is removed, the speech pattern becomes purely descriptive, storyteller, narrative like,and much more enjoyable to read and interesting. Facts are still listed, although now there's a sense of style, rhythm, flow, and finesse.<br />
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'''Chad speech pattern pick-up''':<br />
{{Quote|"Will those long, chocolate legs buckle while that ass gets pounded? Will that tight wet pussy be able to handle this monster cock? Cuz This big dick can fill that hole for sure, baby. We can't just fuck we have to fuck HARD. Only a real woman can fuck with this stud!"|[[Chad|Chad Thundercock]]}}<br />
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''' Autistic virgin speech pattern pickup '''<br />
{{Quote|"Will those long chocolate legs buckle while I'm bending you over? No? Ok. Well I'l try again later. But now I want to taste you. I want to hear you moan, and you know how much I love hearing you moan. Yes, I'll keep trying to bend you over. I think I can get you to do it. I can see that your ass is really fat and i love that about you. Don't fight it, you know you want me to. You can feel my hard cock pushing against your ass right now! I know it feels good, just let me fuck! Your pushing me away? What are you doing that for?"|[[Betabux|Billy Betabux]]}}<br />
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=== Phonaesthetics ===<br />
Is the study of beauty and attractiveness associated with the sounds of certain languages, words and or parts of words and is a very important part of texting as well as conversation game. Elegant, high status, fancy words like luminescence are more attractive than words like guttural. With the most attractive word in the English language being selador.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonaesthetics</ref> Also a study done in 1995 by David Crystal, determined exactly what type of words sound attractive to the ear.<br />
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*Words with three or more syllables (e.g., goss·a·mer and mel·o·dy)<br />
*Stress on the first syllable e.g., góssamer (GO-ssamer) and mélody (ME-lody) <br />
*/l/ is the most common consonant phoneme, followed by /m, s, n, k, t, d/, then a huge drop-off before others consonants (e.g., luminous contains the first four)<br />
*Short vowels (e.g., the schwa, followed in order by the vowels in bid, bed, and bad) are favored over long vowels and diphthongs (e.g., as in bide, bode, bowed)<br />
Three or more manners of articulation (with approximant consonants the most common, followed by stop consonants, and so on)<br />
A perfect example word, according to these findings, is tremulous. Crystal also suggests the invented words ramelon /ˈræməlɒn/ and drematol /ˈdrɛmətɒl/, which he notes are similar to the types of names often employed in the marketing of pharmaceutical drugs.<ref>http://www.davidcrystal.com/?fileid=-4009</ref><br />
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A quick and easy way to improve ones attractiveness is to start using an attractively named alias. For example, the name Lucien Labellous is automatically perceived as attractive, high class, and royal of European descent. Same for a name of Middlle Eastern descent, such as Aramar Jadavra. Or a name of African descent like Zomar Kovaku. Or finally, a name of Asian descent like Minkkhanadori Sensisimoor.<br />
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A study on phonemic sounds done in 2017 showed people overwhelmingly rate fantasy languages as more attractive than real life languages, and that some fantasy languages are more attractive than other fantasy languages.<ref>http://fiatlingua.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/fl-000046-00.pdf</ref><br />
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A survey done in 2019 showed the most sexually attractive real life accent in the world is the Kiwi accent of people living in Australia.<ref>https://bigseventravel.com/2019/04/worlds-sexiest-accent//</ref> However, based on the attractiveness studies above, a fantasy accent is likely to be far more attractive than any real life accent.<br />
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=== Kiwi vs Hero accent ===<br />
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== Attractive high IQ and creativity game ==<br />
=== '''Popular''' high IQ topics are attractive ===<br />
High IQ is objectively attractive. One study showed that an IQ of 120 (90th percentile) is the most sexually attractive IQ score, and no gender differences were observed.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321640585</ref> Both above and below 120 is deemed as less attractive.<ref>https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/114577/the-mating-mind-by-geoffrey-miller/</ref><br />
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Anecdotally, women with IQ's at least slightly higher than average (IQ 105+) find certain IQ 120 topics and subjects extremely attractive such as. Metaphysics, the occult, esoteric teachings, universal teachings, vibration and frequency, etc. Where as women with IQ's below 105 prefer the ''exact same'' topics only simplified. For example, zodiac signs instead of metaphysics, mainstream religion instead of the occult, pop culture, etc.<br />
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=== Highly fertile women are attracted to creativity over wealth ===<br />
This study showed that women at peak fertility (high risk of pregnancy) are more attracted to high levels of creativity for short term mating than for wealth.<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12110-006-1020-0</ref><br />
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Quote from the study: '' Forty-one normally cycling women read vignettes describing creative but poor men vs. uncreative but rich men. Women’s estimated fertility predicted their short-term (but not long-term) preference for creativity over wealth, in both their desirability ratings of individual men (r=.40, p<.01) and their forced-choice decisions between men (r=.46, p<.01). ''<br />
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A study on the attractiveness of creativity showed that creativity is objectively attractive, and has the greatest effect on attractiveness when the man in question is average in physical attractiveness. The more physically attractive, the less boosting creativity is to overall attractiveness. Although even at the highest extremes of physical attractiveness, high creativity does improve overall attractiveness although, only slightly.<ref>https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rsos.160955</ref><br />
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Example of creative writing used from the study:<br />
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''The first idea that this picture made me think of was blind love. Made me think about how in our society we spend a lot of time judging people by how they look. it conjures images of how single people can spend hours upon hours on dating websites scrolling through images of people and judging their physical appearance over substance.''<br />
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''It is perhaps an indicator that looks fade and in the end it does better as you will always be left with the personality of someone. It also made me think that even if you are in a relationship with someone, perhaps you don't know who this person really is what thoughts and feelings they have down may not be shown on the surface. The main imagery I get from this is that you perhaps should not judge people at face value.''<br />
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Example of un-creative writing used from the study:<br />
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''This is a picture of a man and woman whom appear to be kidnapped somewhere in there home. Perhaps? Going by the Cornish work in the background. Are they being held hostage? The man dressed in a suit looks like a professional or has he come back from a funeral as he is dressed in a black suit white shirt and black tie. <br />
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''It seems they have white cloth pillowcases over their heads to blind them from their environment. They are standing close to one another and appeared to be kissing each other. It could be their final kiss and a goodbye gesture or is it the message that love is blind? ''<br />
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As one can clearly see the lack of creativity is directly referring to an unattractive speech pattern, (autistic) speech pattern. Also autistic speech pattern as per the studies results, does '''not''' hinder [[Chad]]s or [[Gigachad]]s from being successful.<br />
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=== Scientifically creative behaviors ===<br />
The Development of the Creative Behavior Inventory (CBI). Created in 1979, compiled a list of activities and achievements considered as creative by laymen, 239 graduate and undergraduate students named their three most creative accomplishments and activities in each of six areas: mathematics and science; music; fine arts; performing arts; and literature.<br />
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This resulted in a 198-item list, which was rated from 1 (least creative) to 11 (most creative) by another group of 50 college students. Ninety items were retained--those with a mean creativity rating of over 5.7, and those with a standard deviation below 2.7 (indicating reliability of judges ratings). <br />
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The number of times the activity occurred during adolescence and adulthood was rated, with the exclusion of activities required as part of required school coursework. Six subscales were identified: fine arts; crafts; literature; music; performing arts; and mathematics-science. Internal consistency reliability ranged from .63 to .89. <br />
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Three subscales and fifteen miscellaneous items did not meet the standards for reliability and discriminant validity. (Each subscale and the 90-item inventory are appended.) (GDC)<ref>https://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED170350</ref><br />
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''Activities and Accomplishments Rated as Highly Creative, in Literature, Music and the Crafts in order from most to least creative''<br />
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Literature .<br />
*1. Worked as an editor for a newspaper or similar organization <br />
*2. Worked as an editor for a school or university, literally publication<br />
*3. Founded a literary magazine or similar publication<br />
*4. Had a piece of literature.(e.g. poem, short story, etc.) published in a school of university publication . <br />
*5. Wrote poetry<br />
*6. wrote the lyrics to a song<br />
*7.Had a piece of literature (e.g. poem, short story, etc.) published in a school or university publication<br />
*8. Wrote clever or humorous letters <br />
*9. Started but.did not finish a novel <br />
*10. Wrote and completed a novel<br />
*11. Won an award for same achievement in literature<br />
*12. Participated in a writers workshop club, or similar organization<br />
*13. Wrote a short story<br />
*14. Wrote something humorous such as jokes, limericks, satire, etc.<br />
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Music<br />
*1. Gave a music recital<br />
*2. Wrote music for one instrument<br />
*3. Wrote music for several instruments , <br />
*4. Cut a record<br />
*5. Won an award for musical accomplishments<br />
*6. Was a participating member of a symphony orchestra<br />
*7. Entered a contest as a musician'<br />
*8. Had original music published or publicly performed performed <br />
*9. Played a percussion instrument (including piano) with a reasonable degree of proficiency<br />
*10. Played a brass Instrument with a reasonable degree of proficiency<br />
*11. Played a, string instrument with &reasonable degree of proficiency<br />
*12. Played a wire instrument with a reasonable degree of proficiency<br />
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Crafts<br />
*1. Made a craft out of metal<br />
*2. Made candles <br />
*3. Designed and made your own greeting cards<br />
*4. Built a hanging mobile <br />
*5. Constructed and put on a puppet show <br />
*6. Received an award for making a craft . -<br />
*7. Made a craft out of plastic, Plexiglas, stained glass, or a similar material <br />
*8. Made a leather craft <br />
*9. Made a ceramic, craft . <br />
*10. Designed and made a piece,of clothing<br />
*11. Cooked an original dish <br />
*12. Prepared an original floral arrangement<br />
*13. Made jewelry<br />
*14. Planned and kept a garden <br />
*15. Designed and constructed a craft out of wood<br />
*16. Designed and made a costume<br />
*17. Participated in a craft workshop<br />
*18. Made your own holiday decorations<br />
*19. Knitted or crocheted something,<br />
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''Activities and Accomplishments Rated as Highly Creative in. Art, Math and Science, the Performing Arts''<br />
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Art<br />
*1. Painted an original picture<br />
*2. Made a sculpture<br />
*3. Received an award for artistic accomplishment<br />
*4. Made cartoons<br />
*5. Drew a picture for aesthetic reasons<br />
*6. Had artwork published. in a school or university publication<br />
*7. Had art work published (not in a school or university publication)<br />
*8. Kept a sketchbook<br />
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Math and Science<br />
*1. Constructed something that required scientific knowledge such as a radio, telescope, scientific apparatus, etc:<br />
*2. Presented an original mathematics paper to a professional or special interest group<br />
*3. Had a mathematics paper- published<br />
*4. Developed a design for a scientific experiment<br />
*5. Entered a project or paper into a science contest<br />
*6. Applied math in an original way to solve a practical problem<br />
*7. Wrote an original computer program<br />
*8. Won an award for a scientific project or paper . <br />
*9. Entered a mathematical paper or project into a contest.<br />
*10. Had a scientific paper published<br />
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Performing Arts<br />
*1. Received an award for acting<br />
*2. Received an award for performance in modern dance or ballet<br />
*3. Received an award for performance in popular dance<br />
*4. choreographed a dance<br />
*5. Put on a radio show<br />
*6. Performed a ballet or modern dance in a show or contest<br />
*7. Assisted in the design of a set for a dramatic production<br />
*8. Had a role in a dramatic production<br />
*9. Entered a contest as a singer<br />
*10. Directed or managed a dramatic production<br />
*11. Participated in a drama workshop, club or similar organization<br />
*12. Participated in a dance workshop, club or similar organization<br />
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=== Humor and comedy ===<br />
Multiple studies done on the importance of humor and physical attractiveness for different types of relationships, showed '''only physically attractive men''', expressing humor were rated as more desirable than non-humorous individuals for a serious relationship and marriage. Humorous individuals were perceived to be more cheerful but less intellectual than non-humorous individuals.<ref>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1475-6811.1998.tb00174.x</ref><ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1474704915608744</ref> A different study found, self-deprecating humor by high-status presenters (but not low-status presenters) increased long-term attractiveness for both sexes.<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/147470490800600303</ref><br />
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== Max attractiveness singing ==<br />
A study done on men's speaking voice attractiveness vs singing attractiveness showed that singing in a high voice, is ''generally'' just as attractive as singing in a low voice and the ''style'' of singing is the deciding factor in max attractiveness at the extremes.<ref>http://parlo-institut.de/litDB/uploads/1318850297.pdf</ref> For example, the results show women ''most'' prefer both short term ''and'' long term men to sing in a sloooooow, smooooooth, calm manner with a deep voice (Barry white type singing, basically). Note that this is only for singing. In a speaking voice women prefer the man to talk a lot, in a relaxed tone. Interestingly, the study also showed that men prefer other male friends to be singers that sing aggressively with passion (how heavy metal singers sing), but in a high voice and that these friends are ideal as a partner in a fight against enemies(short-term alliance),and on a one-year Antarctic expedition (long-term alliance). Meaning that pop singers appeal to both men and women. So one attempting to singmax should listen to and learn to sing like sloooooow, smooooooth, calm deep-voiced men.<br />
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Multiple studies show that being a musician enhances percieved physical attractiveness. For example, Three hundred young women were solicited in the street for their phone number by a young male confederate who held either a guitar case or a sports bag in his hands or had no bag at all. Results showed that holding a guitar case was associated with greater compliance to the request.<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0305735613482025</ref><ref>https://lebs.hbesj.org/index.php/lebs/article/view/66</ref><ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00995420</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0747563213002641</ref><br />
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== Max attractiveness gait ==<br />
The maximum attractiveness gait. From the front and side. The maximumly attractive male gait was discovered using state of the art motion capture technology, at Bio Motion Labs. More in depth information is on the [[gait]] article. here https://incels.wiki/w/Gait. Biomotion lab website here https://www.biomotionlab.ca/.<br />
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== Max attractiveness dancing ==<br />
Studies on physical strength and dance attractiveness show a positive relationship between mens hand grip strength and dance attractiveness. stronger men that display larger, more variable and faster arm movements are rated as better dancers. Also hand grip strength is positively correlated with [[reproductive success]].<ref>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/ajhb.22703</ref><ref>https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2018.00439/full?utm_source=F-NTF&utm_medium=EMLX&utm_campaign=PRD_FEOPS_20170000_ARTICLE</ref><br />
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* Women are most attracted to male dancers whom have a thrill and adventure seeking, dis inhibited, boredom susceptible personality.<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886911002224</ref> <br />
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* High-masculine dancers were judged higher on attractiveness around ovulation than on other cycle days, whilst no such perceptual difference was found for low-masculine dancers.<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/147470491301100503</ref> <br />
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* A study was actually done on what freestyle (non-choreographed) male dance moves are actually attractive to women. By using cutting-edge motion-capture technology, the researchers found that the more varied and vigorous a mans movements in the central body regions (head, neck and torso) as well as higher speed of right knee movements, the more attractive women rated the man's dancing, with 80% of the variance in attractiveness related to only these factors. In layman's terms, head banging and head thrusting, as well as stretching the neck back and forth rhythmically is attractive to women. Puffing out the chest and then back in and then back out is attractive to women (basically twerking but with the chest), flexing the abdominal muscles rhythmically in a wave like motion is attractive to women. Moving the shoulders back and forth (in order to move the upper torso) is attractive to women, and thrusting with the pelvis is attractive to women (in order to move the lower torso). rhythmically bending the right knee in accordance to the beat is attractive to women. Also a faster, more energetic song, will lead to a more attractive male dancer due to movement being more vigorous.<ref>https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rsbl.2010.0619</ref> A well choreographed routine using these movements would elicit super-stimulus in women (be extremely attractive). Also as with walking and running gait, exaggerated technique should be most attractive when viewed from the front and back, and a comparatively more "averaged" or "neutral" technique (same moves though) most attractive when viewed from the side.<br />
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== Max attractiveness fighting ==<br />
Ritualized, choreographed "play" fighting looks attractive for both men and women, hence the international popularity of sports entertainment like professional wrestling. However actual fighting for example, street fights are seen as either unattractive or neutral, due to the sloppy execution and focus on legitimate injury, over finesse and style. Still, winning fights increases [[reproductive success]] even when fights are staged, and even the losers attain more reproductive success than non competitors. This is only for males though. As for females, any athletic activity, dramatically reduces chances of ever having children (which makes athletic males exceptionally rare due to athletic genes almost only being passed down from the male lineage).<br />
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A study done in 2009 investigated the reproductive success of men competing in a traditional ritual fight, Sereer wrestling, the first study of its kind. Involvement in wrestling had a significant positive effect on men’s number of offspring and a marginally significant effect on polygyny, controlling for age, body condition and socio‐economic status. These positive effects suggest that being involved in wrestling competition provides prestige, facilitating access to mates and thereby increasing fecundity. However, when women were interviewed on their preference concerning qualities of potential mates, the quality ‘being involved in wrestling competition’ was poorly ranked. This discrepancy may arise either from deceptive reports or from discordance between parents and daughters in the choice of a husband. Another possible explanation of this discrepancy between female preferences and mating success may be that selection is not acting through female choices, but rather through male–male competition: the prestige acquired by wrestlers may dissuade other men from competing for the same female. <ref>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1420-9101.2009.01793.x</ref><br />
== Max attractiveness body-building ==<br />
A study by Kordsmeyer et al. 2018 found that men's mating success (defined as "an aggregate of participants' number of sexual partners within the last twelve months, lifetime number of one-night stands and of sexual partners without relationship interest") among university students was '''only''' related to how dominant other men perceived them. Women's attractiveness ratings were '''not''' predictive.<ref>http://larspenke.eu/pdfs/Kordsmeyer_et_al_2018_-_Intra-_vs_intersexual_selection_on_human_males.pdf</ref> <br />
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Very likely that these findings would replicate '''in any''' '''institution''' (middle school, high school, at work, in prison, etc.). The issue is, the overwhelming majority of dating is done online now, outside of institutions, away from any physical male intrasexual competition. Thus leading to the rise of [[gymcel]]s as well as androgyny. Still women find muscles and physical dominance attractive irrespective of male intrasexual competition.<br />
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Researchers Aaron Sell, Aaron W. Lukazsweski and Michael Townsley in a blind, academic, peer-reviewed study, ''' found that cues of upper body strength account for most of the variance in men's bodily attractiveness''' <ref>https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2017.1819</ref> Meaning that women do not really care about chicken legs! <br />
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In the study, women were asked to rate photos of men, and while height and leanness played a role, perceived strength played the largest role in which pictures women picked, with women choosing the men they perceived as stronger, and not ones they perceived as weaker. In fact, the women never chose weaker men, and there was no nuance to the results. '''<br />
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Zero of the 160 women surveyed showed a statistical, actual preference for weaker men.'''<ref>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/12/12/women-rate-the-strongest-men-as-the-most-attractive-study-finds/</ref><br />
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== Scientifically attractive smells ==<br />
=== Body ===<br />
A study done in 20011 showed that armpit odor pleasantness was the single attribute that consistently predicted attractiveness of nonverbal behavior.<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-011-9803-8</ref> In laymen's terms the better smelling the mans armpits the more attractive, his gait, as well as any other nonverbal movement, and armpit smell is the most important factor of nonverbal attractiveness. One study found [[fashion|pine]] is an objectively, generally attractive smell.<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2466/pms.100.1.135-141</ref> 3 studies found [[Pretty Boy|the smell of flowers]] to be sexually attractive to women.<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224545.2012.683463</ref><ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224545.2012.683463</ref><br />
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=== Breath ===<br />
There are no scientific studies on attractive breath smells for men as of 2020 A.D.<br />
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=== Smoking ===<br />
A scientific study on smoking and attractiveness showed, smokers prefer smokers and nonsmokers prefer nonsmokers, although smokers in general were rated less attractive. Physical attractiveness ratings were not influenced by status.<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/014616727900500328</ref><br />
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Another study where,two hundred twenty-nine subjects watched videotapes of men and women smoking or not smoking as part of a study on first impressions. The results indicated that (a) smoking models were perceived as more sexually active than nonsmokers regardless of the subjects' smoking status; (b) smoking female models were seen as less likable, less attractive, and less healthy than nonsmoking female models, whereas no such differences emerged between smoking and nonsmoking male models; and (c) although women reported no differences in their preference to engage in intimate behavior (e.g., petting, kissing) as a function of the male model's smoking status, men preferred to engage in such intimate behaviors more with nonsmoking females than with smoking females.<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1207/s15324834basp1302_5</ref><br />
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== Scientifically fashionable ==<br />
=== Clothes ===<br />
Main [[fashion]] article here https://incels.wiki/w/Fashion<br />
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A scientific study done on fashionability of clothing color combinations showed that in 2014, moderately color-matched clothing was more fashionable than highly color-matched or low color-matched clothing. The color combination deemed most fashionable were two layers of purple over the torso and a white shirt and white pants.<ref>https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0102772</ref> The results of the study suggest that among men certain colors may have been more fashionable than others, in 2014 where the study took place, white and dark purple especially so.<br />
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A study done in Korea on men's fashion examined the differences in impression formation according to accessories and hairstyles, and investigated the relation between men's appearance and occupation, as well as attractiveness inferences. The subjects were 320 female university students residing in the Seoul metropolitan area.<ref>http://www.koreascience.or.kr/article/JAKO201509057412985.page</ref> The study determined a sporty (spiky) hairstyle to be more attractive than a classic (swept back/wavy,comb-over) hairstyle, a red tie to be more attractive than both a blue tie and no tie, and metal rimmed glasses to be more attractive than no glasses. Anecdotally, mixing styles seems to result in less fashionability, for example, a spiky hairstyle does not seem to mesh well with regal attire also a swept back/wavy,comb-over hairstyle as well as glasses and or a tie do not seem to mesh well when one is wearing athletic attire such as a varstiy lettermans jacket.<br />
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=== Body hair ===<br />
A study done on "Preference for human male body hair changes across the menstrual cycle and menopause" examined the effect of male torso hairiness on Finnish women’s attractiveness ratings by presenting pictures of male torsos before and after the removal of body hair. The study found that the women’s preferences correlated strongly with the hairiness of their current partners, suggesting that body hair may play a role in actual mate choice. <br />
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The results of the study also found that when the women’s fertility was highest, they preferred males with less body hair and that postmenopausal women demonstrated stronger preferences relating to male body hair than did premenopausal women. The study suggests that in the fertile period of their cycle, Finnish women prefer more the trait that is the current Western ideal (the study was done in the year 2010) of male beauty (hairlessness) than the trait that is traditionally (albeit incorrectly) seen as a symbol of high testosterone levels and masculinity. <br />
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Thus, the phase of the menstrual cycle may affect the strength and direction of female preference even for traits that are not “good genes” indicators and whose preference may be culturally based. Interestingly, the hairiness of the women’s fathers correlated positively with that of their current mates. This suggests that women’s preferences as to male hairiness may be partly the result of sexual imprinting on paternal body hair and/or that this preference is heritable.<ref>https://academic.oup.com/beheco/article/21/2/419/322906</ref><br />
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A study on human Physique and Sexual Attractiveness in men and women in New Zealand and United States found that in both countries, the image lacking any trunk hair was rated as the most attractive, with a steady decline in attractiveness as hirsutism became more pronounced. <br />
amount and distribution of masculine trunk hair (chest and abdominal) was altered progressively in a series of front-posed male figures.<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-008-9441-y</ref><br />
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=== Beard hair ===<br />
The results of beard studies are mixed, as no study found an ''empirical'' facial hair ''style'' that is most attractive. The only conclusions for facial hair one can draw from official beard studies are that any facial hair is more attractive than no facial hair and full- heavy beards are most attractive to women looking for a long term relationship.<ref>https://www.scirp.org/html/2-6901043_44185.htm</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886908001748</ref><ref>>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513813000226</ref><ref>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/jeb.12958</ref> Anecdotally, [[physiognomy]] experiments done by the Incel wiki team, show a light stubble mustache, and an extremely chiseled jaw, chin, and neck that are clean shaven, is most attractive for women looking for short term and medium term relationships. As chiseled jaws, chins and necks are part of a high trust [[physiognomy]].<br />
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=== Tattoos and piercings ===<br />
Numerous studies show that women whom have tattoos and or piercings find men with tattoos and piercings as more sexually attractive (just because the guys have tats and piercings). Thus one can tatoomaxx to appeal more to a niche group of women. Although pierced and tattooed men and women are overwhelmingly viewed as less trustworthy (not good for attractiveness) and to have anti-social characteristics (very good for attractiveness), these traits are maxxed when the guy has face tattoos.<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2466/pr0.96.3c.1113-1120</ref><ref>https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fa0034736</ref><ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2466/pr0.2002.90.2.507</ref><ref>https://go.gale.com/ps/anonymous?id=GALE%7CA172977998&sid=googleScholar&v=2.1&it=r&linkaccess=abs&issn=01463934&p=AONE&sw=w</ref><ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3200/JACH.56.5.593-596</ref><ref>https://digitalcommons.wou.edu/aes_event/2017/all/50/</ref><ref>https://academic.oup.com/socpro/article-abstract/58/4/538/1657580</ref><ref>https://digitalcommons.wou.edu/aes_event/2018/all/82/</ref><br />
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Anecdotally, one should get tattoos that mean absolutely nothing, and are just there for aesthetics. Tribal tattoos are a safe bet. Have the tattoos be symmetrical in that the same tattoo on the left arm should also go on the right arm. This includes the face as well. Teardrops under both eyes for example. Not just one. Same rules for any other body modifications as well.<br />
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=== Head hair ===<br />
A study on men's head hair attractiveness showed, the profiles of females who preferred short-haired males could be described as conservative in orientation, while the profiles of females who preferred long-haired males could be described as liberal in orientation.<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00223980.1976.9915829</ref><br />
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Anecdotally, medium hair length seems to be the most generally attractive, as in enough hair on top of the head for women to slide both their hands through, with hair on the sides noticeably shorter but not too short (stereotypical male model haircut basically). We can grow out our hair to cover up large ears and or grow a bang if our faces are long (low [[FWHR]]). Long hair seems to be exceptionally attractive only when the man in question is also exceptionally lean, muscular, and has an objectively masculine, aesthetic face. ([[Romance]] novel cover model basically).<br />
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The results for hair color did not replicate, meaning there is no known most attractive male hair color.<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12646-012-0158-6</ref><ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167284103002</ref>Anecdotally, any hair color is more attractive than white or grey.<br />
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=== Eyelashes ===<br />
A study on eyelash length and fullness showed that men are '''not''' seen as more attractive with longer, fuller eyelashes.<ref>https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2020-01262-001</ref> Despite not being more attractive longer, fuller, eyelashes do increase trust [[physiognomy]].<br />
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=== Nails ===<br />
There are no scientific studies on the attractiveness of men's nails as of 2020 A.D.<br />
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=== Eyebrow hairs ===<br />
There are no scientific studies on the attractiveness of men's eyebrow hairs of 2020 A.D.<br />
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=== Lips ===<br />
Interestingly, this study showed that women rate bright lips on a male as more feminine (currently unknown if this means more or less attractive.)<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/147470491201000312</ref><br />
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=== Teeth whitening ===<br />
3 scientific studies showed that teeth whitening does '''not''' improve physical attractiveness, although does increase perception of a positive personality.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Matthias_Lange/publication/6113380_Beauty_and_the_teeth_Perception_of_tooth_color_and_its_influence_on_the_overall_judgment_of_facial_attractiveness/links/00b7d521339afc61ad000000.pdf</ref><ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2466/pms.2003.96.1.43</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0889540606006275</ref><br />
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=== Contact lenses ===<br />
A study concluded that blue eyes are objectively attractive, as per the stereotype. <ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00266-011-9793-x</ref> This is related to the fact that with blue eyes during the day the pupil is most clearly visible. Also, a study concluded blue eyes do '''not''' increase trust [[physiognomy]].<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3541379/</ref> <br />
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Anecdotally, blue eye contact lenses look most ''generally'' attractive during the day, while pitch black contact lenses look most ''sexually'' attractive during the night due to the iris and pupil looking one and the same. (The illusion of gigantic pupils).<br />
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2 studies show that darker and larger limbal rings around the eyes are more attractive. The study showed women actually, have a revulsion toward faces that lack limbal rings! ''Especially'' in a short term mating context.<ref>https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2018-39048-001</ref><ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/147470491100900201</ref> Limbal ring thickness fades with age.<br />
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Contact lens maxxing can be done rather cheaply as large limbal ring contact lens can be bought easily from a simple Google search.<br />
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=== Sclera (whites of the eyes) ===<br />
In a study on sclera cues for healthiness, attractiveness and age. Individuals with red and yellow sclera were rated to be less healthy, less attractive, and older than individuals with untinted control sclera. Individuals with whitened, “super-white” sclera were rated as younger, although not more healthy or attractive, than controls.<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12110-013-9168-x</ref> Eye whitening drops are available online for a fairly cheap price.<br />
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== Skin maxxing ==<br />
Multiple studies show that the majority of women prefer a darker skin complexion than the average of whatever race they are most attracted too. (Dark skinned white men, dark skinned black men, dark skinned asian men, etc.) Also, skin high in '''orange''' Carotenoids but '''not''' red and yellow is most attractive '''for men'''. Orange carotenoids come from Apricots, cantaloupe, mango, nectarines, oranges, peaches, Persimmons, tangerines, butternut, squash, carrots, pumpkin, sweet potatoes, orange, peppers, and orange tomatoes. Also a youthful, supple, uniform skin complexion is also rated as most attractive. Also on men a large cut at just the right angle over the face improves attractiveness. Indeed a study done in 2008 by a team of researchers at the University of Liverpool proves that women find battle scarred men as more attractive for short term relationships, also with no negative perceptions.<ref>https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081118081446.htm</ref><ref>https://www.jstor.org/stable/3090169?seq=1</ref><ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/00957984960223006</ref><ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0095798405278341</ref><ref>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1468-2494.2012.00724.x</ref><ref>https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rsbl.2013.0633</ref><ref>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1468-3083.2011.04316.x</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886910004617</ref><ref>https://www.thieme-connect.com/products/ejournals/html/10.1055/s-2006-950174</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886906003199</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513815000859</ref><ref>https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2010/pp/b9pp00166b/unauth#!divAbstract</ref><ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/00957984950213004</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513811001103</ref><ref>https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-0-387-79098-5_8</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1053535711000679</ref><ref>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1559-1816.1992.tb01527.x</ref><ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/147470491201000312</ref><br />
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=== Max attractive skin examples ===<br />
Male skin should have this same healthy, orange glow regardless of race. <br />
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The attractive scar should be a single, symmetrical, superficial ''slash'' across the face. <br />
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== Scientific social status maxxing ==<br />
Across seven experiments, displays of luxury — manipulated through brand labels on clothes — elicited different kinds of preferential treatment, which even resulted in financial benefits to people who engaged in conspicuous consumption.<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513810001455</ref><br />
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=== Social media ===<br />
A study on the relationship between number of friends and interpersonal impressions on Facebook found that a higher friend count improved social status of the profile owner. Not only that, participants who saw attractive friends’ photos rated the profile owner significantly more physically attractive (M = 3.65, SD = 1.17, N = 183) than did those exposed to unattractive photos (M = 3.30, SD = 1.17, N = 160). This finding confirms an assimilation effect: profile owners’ attractiveness varied in the same direction as their friends’ did.<br />
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Positive wall postings yielded higher safety assessments than negative statements by friends. Qualification was similarly affected;<br />
participants exposed to positive wall postings rated the profile owners more qualified than their counterparts who read negative statements. Both task and social attractiveness were influenced by the wall postings made by friends with regard to the profile owners. Task attractiveness of the profile owner was significantly higher when the statements from friends were positive than when negative; and profile owners were rated significantly more socially attractive when friends’ wall posting statements were positive than when they were negative.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/227674008_The_Role_of_Friends'_Appearance_and_Behavior_on_Evaluations_of_Individuals_on_Facebook_Are_We_Known_by_the_Company_We_Keep</ref><br />
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In layman's terms the more social media clout, the higher physical attractiveness of the clout members, and the more positive things they have to say about the profile owner, the higher social status as well as perceived social and physical attractiveness of the profile owner. Interestingly the study also found women to be attracted to anti-social posts/behavior (sexual innuendos, excessive binge drinking at a bar) by the male profile owner (but men found this unattractive in the female profile owner).<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/227674008_The_Role_of_Friends'_Appearance_and_Behavior_on_Evaluations_of_Individuals_on_Facebook_Are_We_Known_by_the_Company_We_Keep</ref> <br />
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This study confirms the anecdotal, social status maxxing tip of thuggmaxxing. Quote from the study: <br />
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''An unanticipated interaction effect involving the sex of the profile owner and the nature of the wall statements was obtained with respect to the effect of friends’ Facebook Friends and Individual Evaluations J. B. Walther et al. 44 Human Communication Research 34 (2008) 28–49 ª 2008 International Communication Association comments on perceptions of the targets’ physical attractiveness. The negative statements depicted normatively undesirable behavior, as they involved sexual innuendo and insinuated that the target person was drinking excessively the previous night. These statements raised the desirability of a man’s appearance among the subject population in this study, whereas the residues of such behavior rendered the target physically unattractive when she is female.''<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/227674008_The_Role_of_Friends'_Appearance_and_Behavior_on_Evaluations_of_Individuals_on_Facebook_Are_We_Known_by_the_Company_We_Keep</ref><br />
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Based on the studies results, the best way to objectively, increase social status (no faking) is unfriend, as many objectively physically unattractive friends as possible, and then add as many objectively physically attractive friends as possible. Post-anti social pictures and content, and delete any negative comments people have to say, but keep the positive. Essentially psychopath maxxing.<br />
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=== Pets ===<br />
A study showed that '''only physically attractive men''' receive increased attractiveness from dog ownership.<ref>https://akademiai.com/doi/abs/10.1556/JEP.11.2013.3.2</ref><br />
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=== Buying the '''correct''' car ===<br />
A study on car ownership and attractiveness showed that the male target model was rated as significantly more attractive on a rating scale of 1–10 when presented to female participants in the Silver Bentley Continental GT vs. the (Red Ford Fiesta ST). The luxury car, vs small family man van basically. One could argue the luxury cars greater angularity and sleekness is attractive, not the brand. However both are attractive. For example, a racecar is brandless, although is still sleek, looks fast, etc. A Lamborghini from the 1980s would most likely be a more attractiveness boosting car than a 2019 family sedan, because A. the Lamborghini has a sleeker design, and B. Lamborghini is a high status brand.<ref>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1348/000712609X417319</ref><br />
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Anecdotally, women find men whom drive fast looking, sleek motorcycles as more attractive as well.<br />
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=== Money flexing ===<br />
There are numerous articles and data points on the wiki about women's attraction to high income men online and for long term relationships. Although this study showed, flexing high income is ''also'' attractive in a short term mating context, walking up to a girl on the street in day game. <br />
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Quote from the study ''Research has found that, for long-term dating, women value men with greater financial resources and higher status, while for short-term dating they value men with greater physical attractiveness. However, there are discrepant results for both long- and short-term dating.''<br />
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''As most of the previous studies used only questionnaires, we conducted a field experiment to evaluate women’s receptivity to men’s date requests. Young male confederates who ostensibly had high, middle, or low incomes, depending on the experimental condition, asked young women walking down the street for their phone number. We found that men’s financial resources were positively associated with compliance with their request.''<ref>https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2012-16556-006</ref><br />
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=== Hanging out in luxurious areas ===<br />
Similar to the car study above, this study showed the male confederate to be rated as significantly more physically attractive standing in the luxury apartment vs the neutral apartment.<ref>https://akademiai.com/doi/abs/10.1556/JEP.12.2014.1.1</ref> The results of these studies show that an expensive, fast living, high income, high spending lifestyle is the most attractive.<br />
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== How psychopaths run game ==<br />
A psychopathic personality has been consistently rated as the personality women are most sexual attracted too. Psychopath Chads run game altogether differently from normal Chads. First of all, the main factor in a psychopath personality is ''superficial charm''. In layman's terms, an 8+/10 on the [[decile]], a face high in [[Pretty Boy|trust]] [[physiognomy]], ripped and shredded, muscular, confident, masculine voice etc. Without those traits the psychopathic personality has no charm. So only [[Chad]] can have most objectively attractive personality. Women want the guy that looks and sounds extremely trustworthy to actually behave in the complete opposite way. In essence, to lie, cheat, steal, or worse. To understand in great detail how Psycho Chad runs game, first understand how normal Chad runs game.<br />
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=== Normal chad game ===<br />
Normal Chad is walking to the food store, and then sees a super hot chick. Normal Chad goes up to and talks to the super hot chick, [[Stacy]]. Stacy and Normal Chad flirt, kiss on the cheek, talk about their lives, get to know each other. They exchange numbers and head on their way. They call each other later that day, and start dating. Which leads to traditional [[romance]] and [[courtship]].<br />
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=== Psycho chad game ===<br />
Psycho Chad is walking to the store, and sees a super hot chick, this woman's name is Stacy. Psycho Chad thinks '' What's the absolute quickest way to fuck this girl, right here, right now. '' Psycho Chad, casually [[gait|swaggers]], up to Stacy and uses quick wit, superficial charm, [[Pretty Boy|flamboyance]], attractive voice, as well as chiseled abs, and a muscular physique to woo and impress Stacy. Psycho Chad begins to ''play fight'' and is very touchy feely. This behavior is not creepy though because of Psycho Chad's high trust facial physiognomy, trustworthy voice, great body aesthetics, etc. Psycho Chad intuitively reads Stacy's body and facial expressions to know, exactly! Where to kiss and touch to make Stacy feel as horny as possible. Psycho Chad and Stacy go behind a building to fuck. After Psycho Chad finishes, Psycho Chad continues the walk to the food store. 2 weeks later, Psycho Chad sees Stacy again, and walks past pretending not to know whom Stacy is.<br />
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=== Psychopaths use exaggerated facial and body expressions ===<br />
Exaggerated expressions are ''exceptionally'' attractive, ''only '' when the man is physically attractive. When the man is physically unattractive the behavior is [[Creepiness|creepy]].<br />
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=== Both heroes and villains are psychopaths === <br />
In two studies of undergraduate students, involving a total of 243 volunteers, and one study of 457 adults recruited online. Researchers asked people to fill out questionnaires regarding their heroic acts, even ones as minor as breaking up a public fight or helping a stranger push a car out of a ditch. The volunteers also took a personality questionnaire to determine their level of psychopathic personality traits — none of the volunteers were actually psychopaths, but because personality is a spectrum, some people were closer than others.<ref>https://www.livescience.com/37483-heroism-psychopaths.html</ref><br />
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The personality of a hero<br />
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The results revealed that a couple of psychopathic traits are, indeed, linked to heroic behavior. In one undergraduate sample and in the sample of adults, a psychopathic trait called fearless dominance — essentially boldness — was linked with greater heroism and altruism toward strangers. In the other undergraduate sample, people who had higher levels of impulsive antisociality (marked by aggressiveness and antisocial behavior) were also more likely to report heroism.<ref>https://www.livescience.com/37483-heroism-psychopaths.html</ref><br />
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Fearless and antisocial people might be more likely than the average person to lie, of course. To control for that possibility, Smith, Lilienfeld and their colleagues inserted a few stealth questions into the surveys. Some were designed to out self-aggrandizers: People who answered "yes" to questions about whether they'd ever taken the controls of an airplane during a crash-landing scenario or saved people from multiple volcanic eruptions were assumed to be lying and tossed out of the study.<br />
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Some of the other questions were subtler and designed to catch people who answered questions in ways that made themselves look good. The researchers statistically controlled for high scores on these questions.<br />
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Finally, the researchers did one more test: a look at heroism, psychopathy and U.S. presidents. Using psychopath ratings from biographers and experts in presidential history, the researchers compared likely psychopathic personality traits of the 42 presidents up to and including George W. Bush with their war records. Although this study was small and limited, it did show that the more psychopathic the personality, the more likely the president was to have a record of heroic behavior in war before taking office.<ref>https://www.livescience.com/37483-heroism-psychopaths.html</ref><br />
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Anecdotally, many psychopaths sometimes show altruistic sides, and sometimes, heroic people act badly in other areas of their lives. In 2005, for example, an Australian businessman who saved as many as 20 people from the Indian Ocean tsunami in Thailand was arrested on assault and burglary charges upon returning home. Even serial killer Ted Bundy, who murdered at least 30 people and who is generally considered to be a psychopath, once volunteered for a suicide-prevention hotline.<ref>https://www.livescience.com/37483-heroism-psychopaths.html</ref> <br />
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When Psycho Chad is nice or romantic (gives a girl flowers), the behavior is seen as genuine and real. When the physically unattractive [[nice guy]] is nice or romantic, the behavior is ''creepy''. Weather Psycho Chad plays the hero or villain, women find him endearing. For example, a study found women find a man walking with a ''heroic'' [[gait]] as more attractive.<ref>https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/2791293</ref>. Women want the callous psychopath to also smell like flowers (literally),<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224545.2012.683463</ref><ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224545.2012.683463</ref> and women view Machiavellian men as more attractive on dark and stormy nights.<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886914000403</ref>. Essentially women want a romance novel fantasy brought to life. Since very few men have these exaggerated traits, the vast majority of us have to settle for traditional [[courtship]] and [[betabux]]ing.<br />
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The top 10 most psychopathic occupations in order are C.E.O, lawyer, media person in TV or radio, salesperson, surgeon, journalist, police officer, clergy person, chef, civil servant.<ref>https://www.businessinsider.com/professions-with-the-most-psychopaths-2018-5</ref> The main occupational theme is exercising control over the lives of others (specifically the lives of animals in the case of the chef). Both heroes and villains wish to influence and control the lives of others.<br />
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On a study of the attractiveness of risk takers. Male and female participants evaluated the attractiveness of risk takers compared with risk avoiders as potential mates, and as potential same-sex friends, in 21 different scenarios. Both females and males preferred heroic physical risk takers as mates, with the preference being stronger for females. Another study replicated the same results.<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513804000583</ref><br />
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=== Psychopaths use '''heroic''' body language to appear attractive ===<br />
In a study on body language attractiveness, prideful appearing men were rated most attractive, and smiling men the least! (This isn't to say a man's smile cant be attractive, only that there are other more attractive gestures).<ref>https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/between-the-lines/201105/study-finds-smiling-men-are-less-attractive-women</ref><br />
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Photos from the study here: https://imgur.com/a/PsLGGBy <br />
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Another study on attractive poses, used computer graphic technology, commonly used for movies, games, and television to make characters as attractive, entertaining and interesting as possible. Found that the most attractive male poses follow a complex set of rules, that involve very specific body motions and angles. Generally though, the least attractive poses look objectively, awkward, lazy, uneven, asymmetrical, weird, and creepy. While the most attractive poses all look like variations of poses one would see at an elite bodybuilding competition, and are explicitly labeled by the researchers as ''heroic''. The researchers used the max attractive poses as a template for creating new, novel attractive expressions for characters in media.<ref>https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Finding-rules-of-attractive-human-poses-using-tree-Oshita-Yamamura/8b1898f22166ef51af94f9c639661a5ffc52958c</ref><br />
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Objectively unattractive poses: https://imgur.com/a/S8qqQZj<br />
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Maximum attractiveness poses: https://imgur.com/a/vifjZIG<br />
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Novel attractive poses (less than maximum attractiveness): https://imgur.com/a/LZkQelS<br />
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Another study on heroic body language showed that portraits of moral heroes (Martin Luther King, Jr., Nelson Mandela, Mother Teresa, etc.) portray heroes gazing up and to the viewer's right (the heroes left) in part because ideologically minded followers select and propagate these images of their leaders. <br />
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The study found that the gaze direction of portraits of moral heroes tend to show the hero looking up-and-to their left more often than chance would predict, and more often than portraits of celebrities (e.g., Elvis Presley) do.<ref>https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/7330/f7dbff88009a712e7b613efaf94eaa74e932.pdf?_ga=2.145609524.1696512517.1580140166-346151937.1580140166</ref> <br />
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The study essentially proved that looking up and to the left is seen as an objectively, heroic looking gesture. The finding suggest that [[manlet]]s should always keep a person directly in front or to the left so as to appear as morally righteous as possible. Anecdotally, looking down and to the left, also appears heroic suggesting any guy no matter the height should keep people in front and on his left side.<br />
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=== Psychopaths engage in '''cool''' behavior ===<br />
Main article on [[coolness]] here https://incels.wiki/w/Coolness.<br />
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'''Coolness''' is [[Dominance hierarchy|dominance signaling]] by looking fashionable and dangerous, as well as behaving in an interesting and impressive manner, all without trying hard. Achieving status whilst doing the bare minimum signals confidence in one's ability. Basically saying, "could try harder but don't need to because people ''already'' hail to the king, baby." Coolness is related to [[stoicism]] due to the downplaying of effort, and related to [[charisma]]/[[game]] as style is associated with [[beauty]]. <br />
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Dangerous activities like free climbing, sex, binge drinking, going to war, etc. are cool because they are dangerous. One could argue purposefully setting one's hand on fire is dangerous but not cool. The counter argument to that is any dangerous behavior no matter how stupid, can be cool if played off with stoicism and finesse.<br />
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For example, one sets their own hand on fire, and without flinching, calmly blows the flames out in an impressive manner hardly seeming to try at all, and then one brushes their hair back, with that same hand, and says "ain't got time to burn." The stupid act of setting one's own hand on fire has just been made cool.<br />
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=== Psychopaths were traditionally war heroes ===<br />
2 leading morality researchers Peter, Descioli (Education: Postdoctoral Fellow, Harvard University PhD and MA, University of Pennsylvania BA, University of Delaware) and Robert Kurzban (Education BA, Cornell University, 1991; Ph.D, UCSB, 1998) In their research file '' Cracking the superhero's moral code ''<ref>https://www.academia.edu/26235404/Cracking_the_superhero_s_moral_code</ref> point out that the idea of an "ideal hero" whom always does the right thing is a pretty new one, as far as cultural narratives go, and that most characters to whom the term "hero" has been applied since antiquity were of a very different mold. <br />
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Many classical Greek, Indian, Chinese, etc. heroes such as [[Genghis khan]] were inherently flawed and destructive individuals who would be poor role-models in modern times, yet are still upheld as champions by their respective cultures. Descioli and Kurzban argue that the distinction between these classical heroes and the modern ideal ones (exemplified by comic book superheroes like Superman) lies in that the former excel at between-group conflict and the latter, in within-group conflict.<ref>https://www.academia.edu/26235404/Cracking_the_superhero_s_moral_code</ref><br />
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For most of human history, our species lived in relatively small communities/groups fighting others over limited resources in an existential conflict. As such, myths of powerful individuals whose main talent was slaying their enemies by the dozen were most relevant to members of said communities. These myths didn't need complex moral messages, because most of the time, their morality boiled down to a simple and easy-to-understand mantra "we are good, the Others are bad, so our hero kills them". However, as communities grew larger and more depersonalized, their susceptibility to internal strife outpaced their ability to self-police, requiring the creation of specialized social institutes for law enforcement. <br />
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By similar processes, we observe the emergence of a new breed of hero, one specializing in within-group conflict — essentially a crime fighter, whose main talent is mediating conflict according to a set of norms and morals espoused by his society. Because a within-group conflict can never be resolved just by killing every opponent, unlike a inter-group war for survival, the ideal-hero fights the "bad" guys to subdue and, ultimately, to redeem them.<br />
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The morality of war heroes and their myths is overtly utilitarian: if they have to sacrifice innocents to achieve victory, they will do so because efficient problem solving and concentration of (fire)power are the best way to resolve existential conflicts with clear-cut sides. On the other hand, within-group conflicts tend to be much more political and messy about their sides, with allegiances fluctuating and shifting too fast to apply utilitarian, military thinking to them. <br />
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The ideal hero therefore instead relies on and enforces a set of Kantian categorical imperatives compatible with the social norms of the group in question (the most popular of which is, of course, Thou Shalt Not Kill). By sticking to his society's imperatives even when it would be more practical in the utilitarian short term to break them, the ideal hero establishes a reputation and secures the majority support within the community in the long term, ultimately achieving a moral, rather than existential victory over his opponents.<br />
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Descioli and Kurzban additionally identify three pillars of the "superhero moral code" (which is how they refer to the morality of the ideal heroes):<br />
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Third-party judgment. An ideal hero will actively meddle in within-group conflicts that do not involve them personally, in order to set things right. In fact, they will often sacrifice their own well-being and relationships in order to ensure the proper functioning of society at large. By contrast, war heroes typically only get involved to defend their own home or to benefit from their conquests.<br />
Moralistic punishment. An ideal hero metes out punishments appropriate for the wrongdoings that he thwarts, i.e. he is not a Vigilante Man killing criminals for personal Revenge, but a rational agent of justice (as understood by his society) who just happens to operate outside of the society's established institutions. Contrast this with the celebration of the war heroes' destructive emotions like wrath, rage, and vengeance.<br />
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Moral impartiality. An ideal hero transcends the conflicts he mediates, embodying Blind Justice. On one hand, he will apply the same punishment to his friends who crossed the line as he would to any other criminal (lack of true, empathy/loyalty to people); on the other, he will show the same restraint with his "enemies" as he would with his friends, e.g. never killing them in hopes of their possible redemption.<br />
Perhaps the most telling illustration of the difference between ideal and war hero moralities is their attitude towards the trolley problem: a war hero would probably push the fat man onto the tracks, because losing one potential fighter is preferable to losing five of them. whereas an ideal hero would probably do nothing, because most societies condemn deliberate harming of others more strongly than inaction that leads to death by unfortunate circumstances. In other words, the war hero is guided by utility optimization, whereas the ideal hero is all about constraint satisfaction.<br />
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== References ==<br />
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== See also ==<br />
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* [[Courtship]]<br />
* [[Fisherian runaway]]<br />
* [[Aging]]<br />
* [[Lookism]]<br />
* [[Looks theory]]<br />
* [[Aesthetics]]<br />
* [[Halo effect]]<br />
* [[Looksmaxxing]]<br />
* [[:Category:Aesthetics]]<br />
* [[Fashion]]<br />
* [[Coolness]]<br />
* [[Beauty]]<br />
* [[N.L.P.|N.L.P]]<br />
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{{Redpill}}</div>Mikey